

Behind the Stays
Zach Busekrus
Welcome to Behind the Stays — a podcast that shares the stories behind your favorite boutique hotels, short-term rentals, and hospitality brands and the hosts, operators, and entrepreneurs who’ve brought them to life.
Every Tuesday and Friday you’ll meet the military veterans, retired flight attendants, tech entrepreneurs, school teachers, single moms, hoteliers, and real estate investors who are all, in their unique ways, shaping the future of travel and hospitality.
Discover how these visionaries — from all over the world — have built stunning landscape hotels in the mountains, designed bohemian bungalows on the beach, erected eclectic off-grid and nature-immersed escapes, and so much more.
Behind the Stays is brought to you by Journey — a first-of-its-kind loyalty program that brings together an alliance of the world’s top independently owned and operated stays and allows travelers to earn points and perks on boutique hotels, vacation rentals, treehouses, ski chalets, glamping experiences and so much more.
Behind the States is hosted by Zach Busekrus, Head of the Journey Alliance.
Every Tuesday and Friday you’ll meet the military veterans, retired flight attendants, tech entrepreneurs, school teachers, single moms, hoteliers, and real estate investors who are all, in their unique ways, shaping the future of travel and hospitality.
Discover how these visionaries — from all over the world — have built stunning landscape hotels in the mountains, designed bohemian bungalows on the beach, erected eclectic off-grid and nature-immersed escapes, and so much more.
Behind the Stays is brought to you by Journey — a first-of-its-kind loyalty program that brings together an alliance of the world’s top independently owned and operated stays and allows travelers to earn points and perks on boutique hotels, vacation rentals, treehouses, ski chalets, glamping experiences and so much more.
Behind the States is hosted by Zach Busekrus, Head of the Journey Alliance.
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Jul 19, 2022 • 47min
How to Upsell Amenities at Your Airbnb — Ideas from Madison Rifkin, Founder of Mount
Meet Madison Rifikin — Founder and CEO of Mount, a platform designed to help short term rental hosts upsell their guests.
Madison has always been a tinkerer. In 5th grade, she had the opportunity to enroll in an innovation program…and she was pretty much hooked on building things after that.
One of the first products she built was a smart bike lock, which she’d go on to sell to some of the most well-known scooter brands in the industry.
Tune in to hear the fantastic story of how selling locks to the Bird’s and Lime’s of the world led to Madison building a platform for STR hosts to turn just about anything into a rentable amenity.
Learn more about Mount by visiting their website.
Connect with Madison on LinkedIn
This week's episode of Behind the Stays is brought to you by Ping — the secret tool the best Airbnb hosts use to maximize bookings.
Ping makes it easy for guests to be notified when their favorite Airbnbs become available.
Ping is a simple widget that lives on your website (or direct booking site) and allows your fans and followers to sign up to be notified if their preferred dates become available.
Here’s how it works.
Jimmy sees that you’re booked the whole month of October, but he wants to be notified if any 3-night window in the month becomes available.
Jen is a returning guest and wants to be notified if any week in June, July, or August becomes available.
In a matter of seconds, Jimmy and Jen fill out the simple form and will be Pinged if their requested dates become available.
And as a host, you will immediately get pinged via email with Jimmy and Jen’s contact information and requested dates enabling you to build up your own database of guest email addresses.
Ping — it's what the best Airbnb hosts use to maximize bookings.
Sign up for free at www.bnbping.com
Behind the Stays is brought to you each week by Sponstayneous — a free, biweekly newsletter that brings subscribers the best last-minute deals and upcoming steals on Airbnb.
You can subscribe, for free, at www.sponstayneous.com

Jul 13, 2022 • 59min
How to Design Highly-Experiential Stays for the Next Generation of Travelers
Meet Jack Buck — a hospitality entrepreneur working on his first luxe vacation rental concepts in Sedona, New Orleans, and The Boulders in Arizona.
Buck fell in love with travel after taking a motorcycle trip across Vietnam a few years ago. The beauty and adventure the country offered, coupled with the community he found while traveling, inspired him to work on projects in and the travel industry.
Discover his thoughts on the democratizing of hospitality brand building, why he thinks the future of travel will be communal, and how he’s designing highly-experiential stays for the next generation of travelers.
Follow Buck on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/buckshotio
This week's episode of Behind the Stays is brought to you by Ping — the secret tool the best Airbnb hosts use to maximize bookings.
Ping makes it easy for guests to be notified when their favorite Airbnbs become available.
Ping is a simple widget that lives on your website (or direct booking site) and allows your fans and followers to sign up to be notified if their preferred dates become available.
Here’s how it works.
Jimmy sees that you’re booked the whole month of October, but he wants to be notified if any 3-night window in the month becomes available.
Jen is a returning guest and wants to be notified if any week in June, July, or August becomes available.
In a matter of seconds, Jimmy and Jen fill out the simple form and will be Pinged if their requested dates become available.
And as a host, you will immediately get pinged via email with Jimmy and Jen’s contact information and requested dates enabling you to build up your own database of guest email addresses.
Ping — it's what the best Airbnb hosts use to maximize bookings.
Sign up for free at www.bnbping.com
Behind the Stays is brought to you each week by Sponstayneous — a free, biweekly newsletter that brings subscribers the best last-minute deals and upcoming steals on Airbnb.
You can subscribe, for free, at www.sponstayneous.com

Jul 5, 2022 • 56min
Is Home Swapping the Future of Travel? Justine Palefsky Thinks So. Meet the Co-Founder of Kindred.
In just a moment, you’ll meet Justine Palefsky, co-founder of Kindred — a members-only community for home swapping.
Growing up, Justine loved to read, ideate, and create. Her parents originally moved to San Francisco to follow the Grateful Dead and encouraged Justine to dream big and take bold risks even if others didn’t quite get it.
Justine has always loved to travel. When COVID hit, Justine, like many folks, started dreaming about what it would look like to live in different cities throughout the year.
She started looking into buying short term rentals in markets like Tahoe, but soon realized that, for her, it was less about owning real estate, and more about having the ability to live and work in different locations throughout the year.
And it was this revelation that sparked the initial idea which would become Kindred.
Follow Justine on Twitter here.
Learn more about Kindred by visiting their website.
This week's episode of Behind the Stays is brought to you by Ping — the secret tool the best Airbnb hosts use to maximize bookings.
Ping makes it easy for guests to be notified when their favorite Airbnbs become available.
Ping is a simple widget that lives on your website (or direct booking site) and allows your fans and followers to sign up to be notified if their preferred dates become available.
Here’s how it works.
Jimmy sees that you’re booked the whole month of October, but he wants to be notified if any 3-night window in the month becomes available.
Jen is a returning guest and wants to be notified if any week in June, July, or August becomes available.
In a matter of seconds, Jimmy and Jen fill out the simple form and will be Pinged if their requested dates become available.
And as a host, you will immediately get pinged via email with Jimmy and Jen’s contact information and requested dates enabling you to build up your own database of guest email addresses.
Ping — it's what the best Airbnb hosts use to maximize bookings.
Sign up for free at www.bnbping.com
Behind the Stays is brought to you each week by Sponstayneous — a free, biweekly newsletter that brings subscribers the best last-minute deals and upcoming steals on Airbnb.
You can subscribe, for free, at www.sponstayneous.com

Jun 28, 2022 • 54min
She Designed the First Eco-Luxe Vacation Rental in Hocking Hills in Honor of Her Father — Meet the Creator of The Carpenter’s Cabin
Meet Jami Jenkins — the creator of The Carpenter’s Cabin — a top-rated, luxe cabin stay in Southeastern Ohio's Scenic Wonderland - Hocking Hills.
Jami has always had a knack for the creative. She remembers drawing up floor plans of beach cottages in elementary school and building furniture for her Barbies.
A graphic designer and event planner by trade, Jami loves using design as a way to communicate the story behind a space, an idea, or an experience.
So, when it was time to build the first cabin on the 32 acre plot that Jami and her husband Scott had purchased, Jami knew she wanted an eco-friendly escape that was truly special — that had a soul if you will.
And that’s when the idea of building a space to honor the memory and legacy of her father, a lifelong carpenter, was sparked.
Book your stay at The Carpenter's Cabin
Follow The Carpenter's Cabin on Instagram
This week's episode of Behind the Stays is brought to you by Ping — the secret tool the best Airbnb hosts use to maximize bookings.
Ping makes it easy for guests to be notified when their favorite Airbnbs become available.
Ping is a simple widget that lives on your website (or direct booking site) and allows your fans and followers to sign up to be notified if their preferred dates become available.
Here’s how it works.
Jimmy sees that you’re booked the whole month of October, but he wants to be notified if any 3-night window in the month becomes available.
Jen is a returning guest and wants to be notified if any week in June, July, or August becomes available.
In a matter of seconds, Jimmy and Jen fill out the simple form and will be Pinged if their requested dates become available.
And as a host, you will immediately get pinged via email with Jimmy and Jen’s contact information and requested dates enabling you to build up your own database of guest email addresses.
Ping — it's what the best Airbnb hosts use to maximize bookings.
Sign up for free at www.bnbping.com

Jun 22, 2022 • 55min
He’s a Serial Entrepreneur And His Latest Venture is an Off-Grid Housing Technology Company — Meet Jeff Wilson, Founder of Jupe
Meet Jeff Wilson, the founder and CEO of Jupe.
Jeff is a serial entrepreneur in the real estate technology industry. If you were to have asked Jeff as a child what he wanted to be when he grew up, he would have either said a “garbage man”, “a doctor”, or “a builder of solar-powered cars” — so, yes, his interests have always been quite varied.
Before founding Jupe, Jeff founded the award-winning micro housing company Kasita, which was named one of Inc’s 25 most disruptive companies in the World (alongside the likes of SoFi and Hyperloop).
Jeff is also known as ‘Professor Dumpster.’ He lived in a 33 sq. ft. modified trash dumpster for a year as part of a minimalist living and housing experiment during his time as a professor in the University of Texas System.
In this interview, you’ll learn how Jeff sees the world, why he’s so passionate about using Jupe as a vehicle to make offgrid living accessible and enjoyable, and how STR hosts can join the Jupe platform and design unforgettable, soul-enriching experiences for their guests by placing a Jupe on their property.
Alright, without further ado, get ready to meet Jeff Wilson.
Learn more about Jupe
Stay in a Jupe
Follow Jupe on Twitter
Follow Jupe on Instagram
Connect with Jeff on Twitter
This week's episode is brought to you Guesty for Hosts — the bestie of top-rated Airbnb hosts.
Guesty For Hosts allows short-term rental hosts to manage listings from Airbnb, VRBO, and Booking.com in one calendar and send a series of automated messages before, during, and after their stay.
The platform also has features that help you manage cleanings, build a custom booking website, and so much more.
Start your 14 day free trial today — no credit card, set up fee, or commitment required — and cancel anytime if you don't love it.
While getting started, use the discount code “SPONSTAYNEOUS” for 20% off of your first year."
Behind the Stays is brought to you each week by Sponstayneous — a free, biweekly newsletter that brings subscribers the best last-minute deals and upcoming steals on Airbnb.
You can subscribe, for free, at www.sponstayneous.com

Jun 14, 2022 • 46min
He’s a Doctor by Day, a Twin Girl Dad at Night, and an STR Entrepreneur In-Between
In just a moment, you’ll meet Billy Chu — owner of The Blue Bungalow, a chic escape in Palm Springs, California.
Billy and his wife Becky are both doctors who live in Los Angeles and parents to young twin girls.
A couple of years ago, Billy and Becky joined an online community of medical professionals who invest in real estate in order to learn more from their peers about the industry.
In early 2021 they stepped into the longer-term rental game by purchasing a couple small multifamily properties.
But the couple really wanted to try their hand at short term rentals and had been eyeing properties in Palm Springs.
Here was the problem — getting into the short term rental game in the fall of 2021 when the real estate market was going bananas seemed all but impossible.
But after consuming dozens of hours worth of STR podcasts, losing out on multiple bids, and almost throwing in the towel, they discovered the home which they now call theirs.
Tune in to hear the story behind how Billy and Becky bought a 4 bed, 3 bath property 5 minutes from downtown Palm Springs and transformed it into The Blue Bungalow.
Book your stay at The Blue Bungalow
Book your stay at The Salty Saguaro
This week's episode is brought to you Guesty for Hosts — the bestie of top-rated Airbnb hosts.
Guesty For Hosts allows short-term rental hosts to manage listings from Airbnb, VRBO, and Booking.com in one calendar and send a series of automated messages before, during, and after their stay.
The platform also has features that help you manage cleanings, build a custom booking website, and so much more.
Start your 14 day free trial today — no credit card, set up fee, or commitment required — and cancel anytime if you don't love it.
While getting started, use the discount code “SPONSTAYNEOUS” for 20% off of your first year."
Behind the Stays is brought to you each week by Sponstayneous — a free, biweekly newsletter that brings subscribers the best last-minute deals and upcoming steals on Airbnb.
You can subscribe, for free, at www.sponstayneous.com

Jun 7, 2022 • 1h 10min
314,000 People Applied for Airbnb’s Live Anywhere Contest — And They Won. Meet the Family Traveling the World and Living Full-Time on Airbnb.
Meet Stephanie Hays and Peter Woolcock — winners of Airbnb’s Live Anywhere contest.
Last summer, Airbnb announced that they were looking for 12 individuals who’d be willing to live full-time via stays booked on their platform for a year — and over 314,000 applicants from all around the world applied for this once in a lifetime opportunity.
One of the 12 selected was Stephanie Hays. Stephanie and her husband Peter are no strangers to travel — in fact the couple first met each other in a bar in Shanghai!
Since then, they’ve traveled to more than 70 countries and lived abroad on a number of occasions.
Most recently, Steph and Pete were living in Chattanooga, Tennessee along with their toddler son, Hays. When she heard about the contest something told Stephanie that she just had to throw her hat into the ring.
And, well, that something was right.
Tune in to hear the incredible story behind what this young family has learned after 9 months of living around the globe on Airbnb.
You can follow their travels on Instagram here
You can watch their travel vlogs on YouTube here
This week's episode is brought to you Guesty for Hosts — the bestie of top-rated Airbnb hosts.
Guesty For Hosts allows short-term rental hosts to manage listings from Airbnb, VRBO, and Booking.com in one calendar and send a series of automated messages before, during, and after their stay.
The platform also has features that help you manage cleanings, build a custom booking website, and so much more.
Start your 14 day free trial today — no credit card, set up fee, or commitment required — and cancel anytime if you don't love it.
While getting started, use the discount code “SPONSTAYNEOUS” for 20% off of your first year."
Behind the Stays is brought to you each week by Sponstayneous — a free, biweekly newsletter that brings subscribers the best last-minute deals and upcoming steals on Airbnb.
You can subscribe, for free, at www.sponstayneous.com

Jun 3, 2022 • 55min
He’s An Accountant, Artist, and Airbnb Superhost — Meet Isaac French the Creator of Live Oak Lake
Meet Isaac French, the creator of Live Oak Lake, a collection of seven stunning cabins nestled around a small lake in Waco, Texas.
Isaac is what you might call a curious creator. He was homeschooled growing up and his parents enabled him the freedom to pursue a plethora of interests — from art, to architecture, and accounting to entrepreneurship.
Isaac comes from a family of entrepreneurs and learned a lot about business, architectural design, and general contracting from his grandfather who built luxury homes all across the state of Texas.
And it was this influence of his grandfather’s, in part, that emboldened Isaac to purchase an overgrown, 5 acre plot of land just outside of Waco, Texas and transform it into an Insta-worthy vacation destination.
Tune in to hear the remarkable story of how Isaac brought Live Oak Lake to life.
Book your stay at Live Oak Lake.
Follow Live Oak Lake on Instagram.
Follow Isaac on Twitter.
This week's episode is brought to you Guesty for Hosts — the bestie of top-rated Airbnb hosts.
Guesty For Hosts allows short-term rental hosts to manage listings from Airbnb, VRBO, and Booking.com in one calendar and send a series of automated messages before, during, and after their stay.
The platform also has features that help you manage cleanings, build a custom booking website, and so much more.
Start your 14 day free trial today — no credit card, set up fee, or commitment required — and cancel anytime if you don't love it.
While getting started, use the discount code “SPONSTAYNEOUS” for 20% off of your first year."
Behind the Stays is brought to you each week by Sponstayneous — a free, biweekly newsletter that brings subscribers the best last-minute deals and upcoming steals on Airbnb.
You can subscribe, for free, at www.sponstayneous.com

May 31, 2022 • 53min
He Lost His Job During COVID — So He Watched 200 Hours of YouTube Videos And Then Went All in on STRs (And Twitter)
In just a moment you’ll meet Taylor Jones, Head of Acquisition at Superhost Labs.
Taylor was working in sales when COVID hit. A few weeks after the world shut down, Taylor’s job was put on a two-month pause and he knew he had to start looking for a new frontier.
Taylor had always dreamed of getting into real estate but had never quite known where to start. With newfound time on his hands, and with nowhere to go, he began Googling.
After watching more than 200 hrs of YouTube videos, streaming a plethora of STR podcasts, and reading through dozens and dozens of blog articles, Taylor finally pulled the trigger on his first-ever short-term-rental.
And while he didn’t know it at the time, this decision would ultimately upon up an entirely new career trajectory for Taylor.
Tune in to hear the story behind how Taylor Jones became the Head of Acquisition at Superhost Labs, a short-term-rental investment startup, and became one of the leading voices on all things STRs on Twitter @MrJonesSTRs.
This week's episode is brought to you Guesty for Hosts — the bestie of top-rated Airbnb hosts.
Guesty For Hosts allows short-term rental hosts to manage listings from Airbnb, VRBO, and Booking.com in one calendar and send a series of automated messages before, during, and after their stay.
The platform also has features that help you manage cleanings, build a custom booking website, and so much more.
Start your 14 day free trial today — no credit card, set up fee, or commitment required — and cancel anytime if you don't love it.
While getting started, use the discount code “SPONSTAYNEOUS” for 20% off of your first year."
Behind the Stays is brought to you each week by Sponstayneous — a free, biweekly newsletter that brings subscribers the best last-minute deals and upcoming steals on Airbnb.
You can subscribe, for free, at www.sponstayneous.com

May 24, 2022 • 1h 14min
Why These Mission-Driven Entrepreneurs Built an Airbnb in Virginia Wine Country
In just a moment, you will meet Katrina Kuhn and Kathy and Sayres Dudley — the dynamic trio who brought to life The Dwelling Place, a special, peaceful escape in Radford, Virginia.
Kathy was the 12th child in her family and was born on the land that would become Iron Heart Vineyard in Southwestern Virginia.
Kathy and Sayres met in college, married young, and have two sons.
Today, Kathy and Sayres run an executive recruiting firm that specializes in the real estate space, but that’s only half of their story.
The Dudleys have always had a heart for mission-driven entrepreneurship, and Kathy is the founder of four nonprofit charities and ministries, including Imani Bridges, an organization whose mission is to connect Christians from different denominations around the world to use their gifts, talents, and resources to become agents of transformation.
Tune in to hear the incredible story of how and why Kathy and Sayres felt compelled to purchase a home in Southwestern Virginia and with the help of their co-host Katrina, transform it into a serene escape for the world to enjoy.
Book your stay at The Dwelling Place
Purchase Kathy's book, Bridges: Transforming Communities Together
This week's episode is brought to you Guesty for Hosts — the bestie of top-rated Airbnb hosts.
Guesty For Hosts allows short-term rental hosts to manage listings from Airbnb, VRBO, and Booking.com in one calendar and send a series of automated messages before, during, and after their stay.
The platform also has features that help you manage cleanings, build a custom booking website, and so much more.
Start your 14 day free trial today — no credit card, set up fee, or commitment required — and cancel anytime if you don't love it.
While getting started, use the discount code “SPONSTAYNEOUS” for 20% off of your first year."
Behind the Stays is brought to you each week by Sponstayneous — a free, biweekly newsletter that brings subscribers the best last-minute deals and upcoming steals on Airbnb.
You can subscribe, for free, at www.sponstayneous.com


