

Perpetual Traffic
Tier 11
Perpetual Traffic is a weekly podcast for CMOs, marketing directors, and business owners who want to master paid advertising, scale their businesses profitably and stay one step ahead of the shifting paid advertising landscape of today.
Hosted by Ralph Burns (CEO of Tier 11, managing $200M+ in ad spend), the show covers digital marketing strategy, paid traffic optimization, and performance marketing, featuring expert interviews, case studies, and actionable campaign breakdowns.
If you’re tired of wasting ad spend on campaigns that don’t convert, struggling to prove marketing ROI to executives, or overwhelmed by constantly changing platform algorithms and marketing tactics that promise results but deliver disappointment you’re in the right place.
This show will give you the proven strategies from agencies managing millions in ad spend, behind-the-scenes campaign optimizations that actually work, and expert insights on marketing metrics that matter for real business growth.
From Meta Ads and Google optimization to landing page conversion tactics and marketing attribution, each episode delivers actionable strategies you can implement immediately to improve your ROAS and scale your marketing efforts.
Get all the free episode resources at perpetualtraffic.com
13+ million downloads | 700+ episodes | Weekly since 2015
Hosted by Ralph Burns (CEO of Tier 11, managing $200M+ in ad spend), the show covers digital marketing strategy, paid traffic optimization, and performance marketing, featuring expert interviews, case studies, and actionable campaign breakdowns.
If you’re tired of wasting ad spend on campaigns that don’t convert, struggling to prove marketing ROI to executives, or overwhelmed by constantly changing platform algorithms and marketing tactics that promise results but deliver disappointment you’re in the right place.
This show will give you the proven strategies from agencies managing millions in ad spend, behind-the-scenes campaign optimizations that actually work, and expert insights on marketing metrics that matter for real business growth.
From Meta Ads and Google optimization to landing page conversion tactics and marketing attribution, each episode delivers actionable strategies you can implement immediately to improve your ROAS and scale your marketing efforts.
Get all the free episode resources at perpetualtraffic.com
13+ million downloads | 700+ episodes | Weekly since 2015
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Nov 12, 2021 • 27min
Episode 339: Black Friday/Cyber Monday Advertising Tips with Angela Ponsford of Tier 11
How can you best leverage Black Friday and Cyber Monday to both acquire new customers and keep your current customers happy (to keep spending)? Angela Ponsford is the VP of Customer Success (also known as the Social Cosmonaut of Stellar Communication) at Tier 11. In today’s episode, she sits down with host Ralph Burns to talk about the upcoming holidays—Black Friday and Cyber Monday in particular—and what you need to know to gain an edge over your competition. This time of year, of course you want new people buying your stuff, but it’s never been more important to make sure your returning customers feel nurtured and loved. Listen in as Angela shares helpful tips for making the most of your advertising dollars in the next month. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: How to balance customer acquisition with nurturing/retaining existing customers Why/how you need to look at your marketing very differently than you used to What can happen if you fail to focus on your email game How to make your returning customers feel loved with an irresistible offer LINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: Tier 11 is giving away 5 FREE customer acquisition path audits Follow @ralphhb and @kasimaslam on Twitter OUR PARTNERS: No Limit Creatives gives you unlimited graphics/videos for one low monthly rate. Clients Online, the go-to Facebook Advertising agency for businesses Keap, an easier way to manage every stage of the customer journey Endless reports and actionable insights from Oribi Get Zero Down (Roland Frasier’s new book) FREE. Find out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead. Register for our free Founders Board workshop Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:www.AdRoll.com/PThttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualhttps://www.activecampaign.com/Tier 11 Data Suite https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/Tier 11 Data Suite

Nov 9, 2021 • 31min
Episode 338: New Google Features and Working with Your Account Rep
What are the newest Google features, and what do they actually mean for your business? “Conversion Value Rules” is just one of the features Google has rolled out recently. Basically, it’s just what it sounds like. Google allows you to take a conversion value and create rules around it, based on location, audience, and device. In this episode, co-hosts Ralph Burns and Kasim Aslam talk through conversion value rules—and a bunch of other new features—and share what they love and hate about them. Kasim isn’t shy about his big feelings about Google and why he disagrees with them on so many points. Listen in to get smarter about what Google is doing, why they’re doing it, and how you can tell the difference between their crap recommendations and their really good ones. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: Why offline conversion tracking on the back end is actually more effective Where to find out about Google updates early Why Kasim doesn’t want to be a Google Premier Partner Why Google will try to change your bid strategy (and why you shouldn’t let them) LINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: Tier 11 is giving away 5 FREE customer acquisition path audits Follow @ralphhb and @kasimaslam on Twitter OUR PARTNERS: No Limit Creatives gives you unlimited graphics/videos for one low monthly rate. Clients Online, the go-to Facebook Advertising agency for businesses Keap, an easier way to manage every stage of the customer journey Endless reports and actionable insights from Oribi Get Zero Down (Roland Frasier’s new book) FREE. Find out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead. Register for our free Founders Board workshop Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/www.AdRoll.com/PThttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualTier 11 Data Suite Tier 11 Data Suite https://www.activecampaign.com/

Nov 5, 2021 • 27min
Episode 337: What's Working Now: Changes in Facebook Ads Manager with Angela Ponsford of Tier 11
Facebook is figuring things out after last summer’s iOS update, and your business will continue to profit from Facebook ads if you stay on top of the changes. Angela Ponsford is the VP of Customer Success at Tier 11. Less than an hour after receiving an email update from their Partner Manager at Facebook, she sits down with host Ralph Burns to talk about all things traffic, conversion, and what the changes in Facebook Ads Manager mean for you and your business. Even with all the unforeseen challenges recently, Facebook is still a great advertising platform. You just need to make sure you have the right tools in your toolbox. Listen in as Angela explains everything you need to know about AEM attribution, reporting, view-through conversions, optimization, creating website custom audiences, and more. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: Why view-through conversions are controversial in the Facebook ad space How to get around frustrating Facebook algorithms Small changes in Facebook Ads Manager that add up to a big difference Good news for people who are sending traffic to a third party domain LINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: Tier 11 is giving away 5 FREE customer acquisition path audits Follow @ralphhb and @kasimaslam on Twitter OUR PARTNERS: No Limit Creatives gives you unlimited graphics/videos for one low monthly rate. Clients Online, the go-to Facebook Advertising agency for businesses Keap, an easier way to manage every stage of the customer journey Endless reports and actionable insights from Oribi Get Zero Down (Roland Frasier’s new book) FREE. Find out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead. Register for our free Founders Board workshop Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:https://www.activecampaign.com/https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/www.AdRoll.com/PThttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetual

Nov 2, 2021 • 55min
Episode 336: 6 Critical Campaigns for Success in Google Ads with John Moran of Solutions 8
If you don’t know the key features of the top types of Google ad campaigns—and which ones will work best for you—this episode has got you covered. John Moran is the Chief Strategist for Solutions 8, one of the best Google ad agencies out there. In this episode, he sits down with his boss, Kasim Aslam, and they get tactical and technical about all things Google ads. The six most critical Google ads campaigns are: general, brand, competitor, DSA (dynamic search ads), remarketing, and display. You don’t have to know all the nuances of each of these campaigns to benefit from this content. John and Kasim’s general overview will give you exactly what you need to help you oversee and manage the people running your campaigns. Google ads have never been a one-size-fits-all strategy. Listen in to see which ad campaigns are right for you. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: How to allocate dedicated budget to your highest value campaign types Which campaigns are most powerful and why The science behind the magic of dynamic search ads How much you can expect to spend on each campaign LINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: Solutions 8 Episode 304 (How to Get Insane Google Smart Shopping ROAS) If you disagree with something, tell Kasim on Twitter. OUR PARTNERS: No Limit Creatives gives you unlimited graphics/videos for one low monthly rate. Clients Online, the go-to Facebook Advertising agency for businesses Keap, an easier way to manage every stage of the customer journey Endless reports and actionable insights from Oribi Get Zero Down (Roland Frasier’s new book) FREE. Find out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead. Register for our free Founders Board workshop Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:www.AdRoll.com/PThttps://www.activecampaign.com/Tier 11 Data Suite https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualhttps://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/Tier 11 Data Suite

Oct 29, 2021 • 1h 7min
Episode 335: An Easier Way to Collect First Party Data with Travis Stephenson, CEO of Chatmatic
First party data is more important than ever before, and chatbots might just be the most effective way to capture it. Travis Stephenson, CEO of Chatmatic, believes that people who hate chatbots (which is quite a few people) are overcomplicating them. In this episode, he encourages people to think about automation in Messenger or IG as a simple way to funnel people through to get the solution they’re looking for. It’s more of a replacement for a landing page—a bridge to get people where they want to go. Don’t try to cram your entire ecosystem into your chatbot, he says, just use it for lead generation and segmentation. Listen in as he works hard to convince Ralph Burns and Kasim Aslam to embrace chatbots. Spoiler: it’s not a hard sell for Kasim who is the world’s biggest cheerleader for first party data. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: Why you should send cold traffic to FB Messenger or IG instead of a website What kinds of questions to use in an effective assessment sequence A 30 to 60-day chat sequence game plan for any size ad budget How to leverage Instagram’s engaging culture to get the response you want LINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: Tier 11 is giving away 5 FREE customer acquisition path audits Connect with Travis on IG (@thetravisstephenson) Chatmatic.com Zapier Follow @ralphhb and @kasimaslam on Twitter OUR PARTNERS: Get a FREE 14-day test drive with Sendlane Join us for Scalable Impact Live in Austin, TX on November 2-3, 2021. Get Zero Down (Roland Frasier’s new book) FREE. Find out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead. Register for our free Founders Board workshop Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review! Mentioned in this episode:https://www.activecampaign.com/https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/www.AdRoll.com/PThttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualTier 11 Data Suite Tier 11 Data Suite

Oct 26, 2021 • 47min
Episode 334: The Future of Marketing with Ryan Deiss
Ryan Deiss, CEO of Scalable Co. and DigitalMarketer, is a digital marketing veteran who shares his insights on mastering messaging in a crowded media landscape. He emphasizes that the best message triumphs, even amidst algorithmic shifts and increased competition. Deiss discusses the importance of creating a community and media brand, adapting to changes in targeting, and why CEOs should prioritize messaging over ad operations. He also introduces Scalable Impact Live, designed to help founders scale their businesses effectively.

Oct 22, 2021 • 1h 12min
Episode 333: Training Your Brain and Scaling Your Business with John Assaraf
When it comes to growing your business, there’s one thing more important than traffic and conversion: your mindset. This episode is a little different from most. Think of it as a necessary mental reset. You come to this show to grow your business, but there’s much more to it than just getting traffic. Sometimes it’s not learning the latest, greatest ideas, but taking what we already know and being consistent with that. Maybe you have self-limiting beliefs that are keeping you from getting to the next level, and you need to overcome them. John Assaraf has a thick resume, several bestselling books, has built 5 multi-million dollar companies, and was featured in The Secret. And that’s only scratching the surface. In this value-packed episode, he shares his brilliant and extensive knowledge about our brains, how they work, and how we can use them to their fullest potential to ultimately become more successful. Listen in for some powerful innercises that can literally change your business—and your life. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: How to create mental patterns in advance of needing them A quick and simple exercise to deactivate your fear circuit Tips for slowing down and creating a new behavioral process How to match your self-image to your why so you can take inspired action LINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: Brainathon: Change Your Brain, Change Your Income myneurogym.com Innercise (John’s new book) Having It All (another book of John’s) The Answer (another book of John’s) @johnassaraf on IG John on Facebook John on Twitter OUR PARTNERS: Get a FREE 14-day test drive with Sendlane Join us for Scalable Impact Live in Austin, TX on November 2-3, 2021. Get Zero Down (Roland Frasier’s new book) FREE. Find out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead. Register for our free Founders Board workshop Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:Tier 11 Data Suite www.AdRoll.com/PTTier 11 Data Suite https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualhttps://www.activecampaign.com/

Oct 19, 2021 • 58min
Episode 332: How to Double Your Revenue This Year Without Adding More Work or More Customers with Lamar Tyler
There’s got to be a way to make more money this year without working longer hours, right? Lamar Tyler, the founder and CEO of Traffic, Sales, and Profit, the premier community for purpose-driven African American entrepreneurs, says yes, there is a way. In this episode, host Ralph Burns chats with Lamar about his secrets to success. Lamar quit his corporate job in 2007 and started a blog to promote and equip marriages in the African American community. It took off and became a huge business and community and then Lamar developed a second brand for entrepreneurs.Listen in as Lamar shares his successful entrepreneurial journey, including tips for building community, creating culture, leveraging paid traffic, and attracting ideal customers.And don’t forget to DM a screenshot of your honest review of the Perpetual Traffic podcast to Ralph on Twitter for a chance to win recordings of T&C 2021 ($300 value). IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: Tips for getting in front of people and getting the head nod factor How to create great content that speaks directly to your customers’ pain points How/why to stabilize your first brand before developing the next one Core fundamentals of marketing that work across all industries LINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: DM your review of Perpetual Traffic to @ralphhb on Twitter to win T&C recordings Traffic, Sales, and Profit Lamar on IG Lamar’s Facebook Lamar’s Book OUR PARTNERS: Get a FREE 14-day test drive with Sendlane Join us for Scalable Impact Live in Austin, TX on November 2-3, 2021. Get Zero Down (Roland Frasier’s new book) FREE. Find out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead. Register for our free Founders Board workshop Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:Tier 11 Data Suite https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualhttps://www.activecampaign.com/www.AdRoll.com/PTTier 11 Data Suite

Oct 15, 2021 • 42min
Episode 331: The Future of Traffic, Part 2 with Ralph Burns and Kasim Aslam
If you want to survive in the traffic world as it currently exists, you have to innovate. In this episode, co-hosts Ralph Burns and Kasim Aslam talk through some of the new advertising solutions they’re working on and testing out in this post-iOS update environment. Bottom line: you can’t use the same strategies you’ve always used, and you have to set aside your biases and be more open to new ideas today than you ever have been. At the same time, you’ve got to go back to the foundations, the proven principles, the most important things about marketing. There’s no easy button; you’ll have to put in the work. Listen in for some creative ways to balance the basics with new innovations as you move into the future of traffic. And don’t forget to DM a screenshot of your honest review of the Perpetual Traffic podcast to Ralph on Twitter for a chance to win recordings of T&C 2021 ($300 value). IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: Everything you need to know about Facebook click ID How Kasim’s Facebook hack got them down from a $90/lead to $30/lead How to crack cold traffic (which you have to do or you’re screwed) Why the “faucet of traffic” is no longer a good strategy LINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: DM your review of Perpetual Traffic to @ralphhb on Twitter to win T&C recordings Hotjar (screen recording software) Zapier (connect your apps and automate workflow) Ep. 324: An In-Depth Look at the Creative Process with Tier 11’s Tom Meredith breakthroughadvertising.com (get the book) $100M Offers (book by Alex Hermosi) OUR PARTNERS: Get a FREE 14-day test drive with Sendlane Join us for Scalable Impact Live in Austin, TX on November 2-3, 2021. Get Zero Down (Roland Frasier’s new book) FREE. Find out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead. Register for our free Founders Board workshop Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review! iTunes not your thing? Find us on Google Podcasts and SpotifyMentioned in this episode:https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/Tier 11 Data Suite https://www.activecampaign.com/Tier 11 Data Suite www.AdRoll.com/PThttps://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetual

Oct 12, 2021 • 32min
Episode 330: The Future of Traffic, Part 1 with Ralph Burns and Kasim Aslam
The paid traffic landscape has drastically changed in the past six months, and the best marketers are the ones that can respond, adapt, and come up with solutions. In this episode, hosts Ralph Burns and Kasim Aslam step back and take a 30,000-foot view of what’s really happening in the advertising environment right now. Their respective agencies are doing well, but they’ve definitely taken some punches this year. There’s a lot of traffic still out there, but it has changed fundamentally in the last 3-6 months, and Kasim says it’s never going back to what it was. Listen in for ways to stop being romantic about the old ways of making money and move forward into the present reality. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: Which basic principles of marketing to get back to first The red flags to look for when someone’s trying to sell you B.S. How to break through your biases to innovate and solve problems How Kasim’s team fixed the iOS blindspot (to some degree) LINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: Tier 11 (Ralph’s agency) Solutions 8 (Kasim’s agency) The 7 Critical Principles of Effective Digital Marketing (Kasim’s book) Ep. 324: An In-Depth Look at the Creative Process with Tier 11’s Tom Meredith Matching the most relevant keyword to every search (9/23/21 Google article) If you have the solution for iOS 14 & 15, email Ralph: ralph@tiereleven.com OUR PARTNERS: Get a FREE 14-day test drive with Sendlane Join us for Scalable Impact Live in Austin, TX on November 2-3, 2021. Get Zero Down (Roland Frasier’s new book) FREE. Find out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead. Register for our free Founders Board workshop Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review! iTunes not your thing? Find us on Spotify and Google PodcastsMentioned in this episode:www.AdRoll.com/PTTier 11 Data Suite https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/https://www.activecampaign.com/https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetual


