The Cave of Apelles

Have you ever wondered why classical music always seems to be performed too fast in the concert halls? Wonder no more. Wim Winters, an organist and pianist from Belgium, challenges modern performance practice of Beethoven, Chopin and others from the Classical period via his controversial YouTube channel Authentic Sound. Winters' point is simple: the metronome indications of works by the likes of Beethoven have been misread for more than a century, a claim made evident by historical proof that the current tempi is up to twice as fast as the original (!) Pianists today need physiotherapy in their attempts to follow painstaking speeds and even the fastest fall short. Among Winters' numerous reconstructions are Beethoven's Fifth Symphony and Moonlight Sonata, at first appearing shockingly slow. But on closer inspection, could it be that only a return to the original tempi will release the true emotional potential of the Western musical canon? 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 180 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 01:34 Authentic Sound and modern performance practice 05:15 Choice of tempo and the certainty of metronome marks 08:38 The original tempo indication vs Single or Half Beat 15:13 Modern performances: even the fastest fall short 19:21 "Beethoven's broken metronome" 21:43 Historical sources for Whole Beat 27:11 When did performance speeds increase and why? 32:58 Can you play faster than humanly possible? Win €5.000! 34:21 What is physically possible to play and perceive? 40:00 Life-long injuries, worn-out brains and loss of joy 45:14 Whole beat is natural for us 51:00 "Mozart is being killed" (1839 warning) 54:50 Cooperation with Lorenz Gadient 1:01:56 Whole Beat reviving classical music 1:09:40 "When you slow down, you play faster" 1:14:11 Paradigm shifts are initiated by outsiders This episode featured Wim Winters & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a reproduction of the Beethoven portrait by Joseph Karl Stieler. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Shaun Roberts Matthias Proy Børge Moe Eivind Josten Would you like to get premium access? Become a patron: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Visit our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/CaveOfApelles For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Knowledge of the craft and what you are up against is vital for the revival of classical architecture. Carl Korsnes sits down with Eric Norin to talk about the knowledge handed down to us by Vitruvius, good examples of building projects with local coloring, the impact of seemingly innocent standardizations, the driving force of early modernists, and more. ▶️ Watch the initial interview with Eric Norin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCFVPsnym2g 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 180 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:02 Modernism: a gift to carpenters 05:37 Big scale, standardized and ugly 09:01 The width of two horses' asses 11:50 Virtruvius' definition of beauty 16:28 Architecture is the mother discipline 18:26 Architects must know many professions 22:51 Professional architects are ignorant 26:35 USA, Canada and UK have living traditions 28:13 The "Builders' guide to architecture" 36:14 Building with vernacular, local twists 45:01 Early modernists had good intentions? 51:13 Modernism and the socialist ideal 1:00:36 National tragedies and collective memory This episode featured Eric Norin & Carl Korsnes and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Shaun Roberts Matthias Proy Børge Moe Eivind Josten Would you like to get premium access? Become a patron: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Visit our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/CaveOfApelles For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

The young draughtsman and painter from Finland has proven his talent with narrative portraits from live model. Aiming for the Classical Greek ideal, Hjalmar Hagelstam is already well-equipped, having studied painting with Odd Nerdrum and sculpture at the Florence Academy Growing up in a country known for Sibelius and Gallen-Kallela, Hagelstam asks the following question: "Which lessons can we learn from the strange fate of 19th century Finnish painters?" As he sees it, they were rightfully concerned with Kalevala, the native, mythical epic. However their political desire to find something "national" in it, invariably led to failure. Making matters worse, influence from contemporary ideas of "progress" and styles like symbolism and impressionism only further removed their work from a truly timeless context. So what makes a universal story? And could you grip the essence of a myth by simply illustrating it? 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 180 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:30 Introduction 01:22 Does Finnish painting exist? 02:20 How Hagelstam got interested in painting 05:06 The free art school and Odd Nerdrum 07:39 What Hagelstam saw at the auction house 09:14 FAA, storytelling and being close to nature 13:27 Intuitive vs "rational" painting method 17:43 Props: contemporary or timeless? 21:34 Naturalism and symbolism — pitfalls and strengths 28:21 Rembrandt & Greeks: Shame, forgiveness, elevation 34:16 Empathy & drama vs "everyday" motifs 41:47 Experience life to become a good painter? 45:26 Munch's Sick Child and Rembrandt's Prodigal Son 52:36 Calmness vs action and combining opposites 58:19 "The Poor Fisherman" and The Squint Test 1:02:39 Do not just illustrate the title 1:06:55 One can only set a great example 1:09:54 Recommending Florence Academy of Art? 1:11:36 How to become more mythical in your motifs? This episode featured Hjalmar Hagelstam & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was "Breath" by Hjalmar Hagelstam (portrait of the poet Thomas Løland). SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Shaun Roberts Matthias Proy Børge Moe Eivind Josten Would you like to get premium access? Become a patron: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Visit our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/CaveOfApelles For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Magnus Vanebo and Jan-Ove Tuv sit down to discuss the meaning and significance of Vasily Kandinsky's manifesto "On the Spiritual in Art". What exactly is "pure" mimesis and the "innate" power of color? Who knows... Are the thoughts presented in the abstractionist's essay even as original as the author wants them to be, or are they borrowed and perhaps even taken directly from previous thinkers? Chapter markers: 00:02 Predetermined development 10:10: Outer form hindering the inner content? 15:00: Inner necessity and universal content 18:45: The "innate" power of color 20:29: Mysticism and avoiding the representational form 22:24: Self-contradictory freedom of expression 24:59: Avoiding narratives and the fairytale-like 30:21: "Pure" mimesis, untainted by our senses 33:46: Mythological themes in Kandinsky's works? 37:50: Kandinsky's "dehumanization" 42:48: Art = one small detail of old master painting 45:13: Kandinsky's journey to abstraction 48:55: Kandinsky vs screenwriting 53:09: Kitsch & Art — an age-old dichotomy ▶ Full video: https://www.patreon.com/caveofapelles 🎵 Full audio: https://caveofapelles.com/podcast This episode featured Magnus Vanebo & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Shaun Roberts Matthias Proy Børge Moe Eivind Josten Would you like to get premium access? Become a patron: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Visit our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/CaveOfApelles For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

As the Vice President of the Swedish Architecture Uprising (Arkitekturupproret), Eric Norin is a strong proponent of humane and harmonious architecture and city planning, and has appeared in numerous debates on architecture in Swedish media. Norin works as a professional architect within the classical tradition, and runs his own architecture firm Tradition Arkitekter, specializing in new classical production and renovation. He argues that city planning is a democratic matter and that we must start developing greater democratic basis for what is being built. Surveys clearly show that people generally prefer classical and beautiful buildings, and Norin stresses that people ought to act according to their architectural preferences: Buy new classical houses and visit stores in classical buildings! As social media has made the architecture debate more open, are we witnessing the fall of the modernist hegemony? 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 180 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 01:47: Norin's path to becoming a classical architect 06:28: Self-learning at The Royal Academy 12:33: Founding The Architecture Uprising (Arkitekturuppröret) 17:33: Key to success: before and after pictures 23:44: INTBAU education of classical architects 27:10: "True" architecture is ugly architecture 29:58: The definition of "classical architecture" 38:18: "Modern" vs "modernism" 46:33: How classical architecture strives towards nature 54:40: The patterns of history 59:33: A "rational" approach vs diversity 01:06:34: The Architecture Uprising is impacting politics 01:10:11: Everybody wants to live in Disney Land 01:15:26: Notre Dame fire: a gift to classical crafts 01:17:38: Eric Norin's greatest fear 01:23:33: Three sustainability-arguments for classical architecture This episode featured Eric Norin & Carl Korsnes and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a photograph of a street in Sundsvall, Sweden. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Shaun Roberts Matthias Proy Børge Moe Eivind Josten Would you like to get premium access? Become a patron: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Visit our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/CaveOfApelles For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Jan-Ove Tuv and Einar Duenger Bøhn sit down discuss Aristotle's Ethics from the perspective of narrative painting. 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 180 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:01 ”Good” is objective 06:58 External values 10:50 Seeking knowledge vs subjectivism 14:20 An impersonal relation to the world 20:38 Improvement through practice 25:54 Originality is destructive 31:31 Know what is (un)important 38:03 Masterworks make you less lonely 42:38 Nerdrum, Hopper, Wyeth and The Great Gatsby 50:23 Aristotle: What we know is eternal 54:18 Plato vs Aristotle — empirical vs abstract thinking? 57:05 The goal of a portrait and the tragedy of Edvard Munch 1:04:33 Who is more "universal": Freud - Hopper - Wyeth 1:14:29 Anecdote of "Woman Killing an Injured Man" 1:15:37 Friendship with a painting? This episode featured Einar Duenger Bøhn & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Shaun Roberts Matthias Proy Børge Moe Eivind Josten Would you like to get premium access? Become a patron: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Visit our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/CaveOfApelles For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

The question as been asked over and over for decades: Is figurative painting coming back? David Molesky and Jan-Ove Tuv sit down to discuss the possibilities and problems with the current trends and what it truly takes to change the tide. 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 180 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 00:01 What kind of "figuration" 02:06 A better situation 05:03 Cross-over painters 10:12 Wyeth & Nerdrum vs. Currin & Freud 12:51 AI and painting vs. humanism 15:58 Artification and American iconoclasm 19:53 Our nature does not change 25:20 Two types of figuration 29:42 Trained in sentimentality 34:55 Galleries vs. cooperating with architects 39:28 Lumped in with the wrong kind of work 42:46 Originality is for aliens This episode featured David Molesky & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Shaun Roberts Matthias Proy Børge Moe Eivind Josten Would you like to get premium access? Become a patron: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Visit our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/CaveOfApelles For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Following his victory in the World Wide Kitsch Competition 2021, Shaun Roberts was invited to the Cave of Apelles for an interview about his award-winning portrait "The Messenger". He shares stories from his teaching experience at a Texan university and his unconventional sources of influence, such as the Dutch genre painter Adrian Brouwer, as well as the American "Cowboy" painter Frederic Remington. Studying with Odd Nerdrum, Roberts also breaks down the most important things he is currently learning. 👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 180 exclusive posts: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Chapter markers: 01:20 "Hero's Journey" to Norway 06:40 Roberts' prize-winning self-portrait 14:00 Three approaches to painting 18.06 Discovering painting skills by accident 22:10 Positive learning experiences at universities 28:34 Teaching at Steven F. Austin State University 34:35 Teaching modernist students 36:30 Including storytelling 40:22 Positive colleagues & gallery 45:30 The World Wide Kitsch Competition 50:15 Dissolved painting technique and movement 56:55 Remington, Brouwer and Rembrandt 1:01:25 Armadillo-Brouwer connection 1:04:21 Brouwer's tension 1:08:14 Studying with Odd Nerdrum This episode was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was Shaun Roberts' self-portrait "The Messenger". SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Børge Moe Matthias Proy Eivind Josten Fergus Ryan Dean Anthony Anders Berge Christensen Erik Lasky Herman Borge Fernando Ramirez Iver Ukkestad Jack Entz Warner Jared Fountain Jon Harald Aspheim Marion Bu-Pedersen Maurice Robbins Michael Irish Misty DeLaine Richard Barrett Stacey Evangelista Trym Jordahl Yngve Hellan Would you like to get premium access? Become a patron: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Visit our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/CaveOfApelles For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

The Austrian tonal composer Alexander Blechinger sits down with Jan-Ove Tuv to explain how he achieves the illusion of visual effects in musical works such as his Atomblitz-Ouvertüre: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ntDtO9VCLQ In 1982 Blechinger founded Harmonia Classica, an organization devoted to performance of contemporary tonal music and competitions for composers. He talks about their success in a country where the state unilaterally favors modernist culture. Chapter markers: 01:10 Blechinger's interest in music 06:19 How he got into Classical music 13:00 Studying composition 15:35 What is counterpoint and harmony? 19:55 Baroque: the root of our music 21:43 Renaissance and Gothic music 23:36 Renaissance vs Baroque music 26:18 Finding a composition teacher 31:40 The Atomblitz-ouvertüre 39:12 How Blechinger crafts a story (Atomblitz-ouvertüre) 53:20 Harmonia Classica, an organization for "beautiful new music" 56:09 The Harmonia Classica competition 1:00:52 Making "stories of the heart" 1:10:18 Better conditions for classical music 1:15:31 The problem of cultural politics This episode was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was "Loving couple" by Odd Nerdrum. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Børge Moe Matthias Proy Eivind Josten Shaun Roberts Fergus Ryan Dean Anthony Anders Berge Christensen Erik Lasky Fernando Ramirez Iver Ukkestad Jack Entz Warner Jared Fountain Jon Harald Aspheim Marion Bu-Pedersen Maurice Robbins Michael Irish Misty DeLaine Richard Barrett Stacey Evangelista Trym Jordahl Yngve Hellan Would you like to get premium access? Become a patron: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Visit our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/CaveOfApelles For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Tales and myths have become bedtime stories and Disney movies for children, but it was not always thus. Boris Koller and Jan-Ove Tuv sit down to discuss the collected stories of Brothers Grimm, their explicit content and symbolic meaning. But are the tales meant to be read as metaphors for archetypal characters and aspects of human psychology, or are they rather based on real life events that happened in a time of witches a long time ago? 👌 Support our show: https://caveofapelles.com/subscribe Chapter markers: 01:54 The Golden bird and the fox 06:43 Not for children! (Snow White) 13:13 Little Red Riding Hood 17:07 Older, nearly shamanistic versions 20:31 What is the meaning of gold? (Frau Holle, Iron John) 25:06 The true, bloody story of Cinderella 32:24 More than 10.000 years old real events 36:09 Human self-domestication 38:51 The power of images 44:55 Women eating small children 50:45 The problems of the psychological approach 55:28 Stick to the image, do not be original This episode featured Boris Koller & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Shaun Roberts Matthias Proy Børge Moe Eivind Josten Dean Anthony Alastair Blain Anders Berge Christensen Erik Lasky Iver Ukkestad Jack Entz Warner Jared Fountain Jon Harald Aspheim Marion Bu-Pedersen Maurice Robbins Misty DeLaine Richard Barrett Stacey Evangelista Trym Jordahl Yngve Hellan Would you like to get premium access? Become a patron: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Visit our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/CaveOfApelles For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com