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Jul 6, 2021 • 0sec

KOL259-2 | Destination Unknown with Vin Armani and Dave Butler: Government vs. the State, Intellectual Property (New Hampshire Liberty Forum 2019)

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 259-2. Recorded Feb. 8, 2019. On Feb. 8, 2019, I delivered a talk at the New Hampshire Liberty Forum in Manchester NH: KOL259 | “How To Think About Property”, New Hampshire Liberty Forum 2019. While there I was a guest on the Vin Armani and Dave Butler (of Vin and Dave's Destination Unknown podcast) livestream of the Free State Project's New Hampshire Liberty Forum, Day 1 -- we discussed government versus the state, intellectual property, and related issues. Youtube below. I left in the cool "New Hampshire" song on the video excerpt below, but trimmed most of it out for the podcast feed. https://youtu.be/1yvHTPs9Gmw Full episode featuring other guests:
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Jul 5, 2021 • 1h 51min

KOL347 | This Time I’m Curious Ep. 1: The Libertarian Movement, AI Rights, UFOs, Music, Movies, Alcohol

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 347. My appearance on a new youtube channel, This Time I'm Curious (TTIC) with Jesse Munson, Episode 1 (recorded July 4, 2021). We talked about a variety of topics -- the history/evolution of libertarianism and my involvement in it, Ayn Rand, the Ron Paul movement, animal rights, AI consciousness and AI rights, artificial meat, quantum mechanics, UFO's, music, movies, guilty Youtube pleasures, Objectivism, The Fountainhead, Kinsella's place in the libertarian movement, alcohol addiction, etc. https://youtu.be/a8fli8AbNXY
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Jul 1, 2021 • 47min

KOL346 | Copyright and Satoshi’s Legacy: The Tatiana Show, with Tatiana Moroz

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 346. I was a guest on the Tatiana Show, with host Tatiana Moroz. (Released July 1, 2021, recorded June 30, 2021). Transcript below. Youtube: https://youtu.be/GX2QolLvPSE Original youtube: https://youtu.be/HSIIzKGk_aw From her shownotes: COPYRIGHT & SATOSHI’S LEGACY WITH STEPHAN KINSELLA OF THE OPEN CRYPTO ALLIANCE On June 29, 2021, a UK court found that Australian computer scientist Craig Wright is the proper copyright owner of the Bitcoin Whitepaper, awarding initial damages in excess of $48,000 to Wright and demanding that Bitcoin.org remove the Whitepaper from its site. Guest Stephan Kinsella of the Open Crypto Alliance joins Tatiana today to talk about the decision and why it reveals all the most troubling problems with the government-run patent, trademark & copyright system. He discusses the background of the case and the personal financial interest that he believes is driving Wright’s copyright trolling campaign. And he also gives his own thoughts on Bitcoin, blockchain technology, smart contracts and more. If you like the program, subscribe today via Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen! About the Guest: (Norman) Stephan Kinsella is an attorney and libertarian writer in Houston. He was previously General Counsel for Applied Optoelectronics, Inc., a partner with Duane Morris, and adjunct law professor at South Texas College of Law. A registered patent attorney and former adjunct professor at South Texas College of Law, he received an LL.M. (international business law) from King’s College London-University of London, a JD from the Paul M. Hebert Law Center at LSU, and BSEE and MSEE degrees from LSU. He has spoken, lectured and published widely on both legal topics, including intellectual property law and international law, and also on various areas of libertarian legal theory. Libertarian-related publications include Property, Freedom, and Society: Essays in Honor of Hans-Hermann Hoppe (co-editor, with Jörg Guido Hülsmann, Mises Institute, 2009); Against Intellectual Property (Mises Institute, 2008); and Law in a Libertarian World: Legal Foundations of a Free Society (Papinian Press, 2021). Forthcoming works include Copy This Book: The Case for Abolishing Intellectual Property (Papinian Press, 2022). Kinsella’s legal publications include International Investment, Political Risk, and Dispute Resolution: A Practitioner’s Guide (Oxford, 2020); Online Contract Formation (Oceana, 2004); Trademark Practice and Forms (Oxford & West/Thomson Reuters 2001–2013); World Online Business Law (Oxford, 2003–2011); Digest of Commercial Laws of the World (Oxford, 1998-2013); Protecting Foreign Investment Under International Law: Legal Aspects of Political Risk (Oceana Publications, 1997); and Louisiana Civil Law Dictionary (Quid Pro Books, 2011). Kinsella is a co-founder and member of the Advisory Council for the Open Crypto Alliance (2020–), a member of the Editorial Board of Reason Papers (2009–), a member of the Editorial Advisory Board of the Molinari Review (2014–), a member of the Advisory Board of the Lexington Books (Rowman & Littlefield) series Capitalist Thought: Studies in Philosophy, Politics, and Economics (2013–), Founder and Director of the Center for the Study of Innovative Freedom (2010–present), and legal advisor to LBRY (2015–). Previously, he was Founder and Executive Editor of Libertarian Papers (2009–2018), a Senior Fellow for the Ludwig von Mises Institute (2009–2013), a member of the Advisory Council of the Government Waste and Over-regulation Council of the Our America Initiative (2014–2017), Book Review Editor of the Journal of Libertarian Studies (Mises Institute, 2000–2004), a member of the Editorial Board of The Journal of Peace, Prosperity & Freedom (Liberty Australia, 2012–2016), a member of the Advisory Panel of the Center for a Stateless Society (C4SS) (2009–2012), and served as Chair of the Computer Law Subcommittee of the Federalist Society’s Intellectual Property Practice Group. More Info: Tatiana Moroz – https://tatianamoroz.com Crypto Media Hub – https://cryptomediahub.com Open Crypto Alliance – https://opencryptoalliance.org Stephen Kinsella – https://stephankinsella.com TRANSCRIPT Copyright and Satoshi’s Legacy with Stephan Kinsella of the Open Crypto Alliance Stephan Kinsella and Tatiana Moroz The Tatiana Show, June 30, 2021 00:00:01 [intro music] 00:00:17 TATIANA MOROZ: Hello everybody, and welcome to this last-minute special edition of the Tatiana Show.  I’m here with Stephan Kinsella.  He is a patent attorney and a libertarian writer, and we just ran into each other at PorcFest, so I wanted to catch up about that and then get to this breaking news about Satoshi being Craig Wright, which I don’t even know what to say about all that.  So you probably know something about that.  We actually had you on the show before.  You were talking about some of these kind of patent trolls in blockchain.  But before we dive into all this stuff, if you can please give some people your background, a little bit about how you got involved in all this stuff and just some overview about your experience. 00:01:05 STEPHAN KINSELLA: Sure.  Well, I’m a long-time libertarian since 1982, so I’ve been interested in this stuff for a long time.  I’m also a patent attorney with an electrical engineering background, so I deal in high-tech patent law, so I’m interested in technology, and so I got interested in Bitcoin early on and libertarianism and Austrian economics.  They all tie together for me.  So I’m a member also of the Open Crypto Alliance, which is a group that is trying to fight the patent troll threat to the Bitcoin and blockchain ecosystem primarily by nChain and Craig Wright and other companies. 00:01:43 And Craig Wright is also apparently a copyright troll, so that’s what the news item today was about.  And as we talked about last time, and as I’ve talked about many times, although I’m a patent attorney, I’ve long been an opponent of the intellectual property system, patent and copyright law.  And I’ve been warning for a while that this would happen, and it has happened now, and it’s happening now. 00:02:04 TATIANA MOROZ: I’d love to hear a little bit more about that because normally – I even did an episode a long time ago I think with Jeffrey Tucker and John Light.  And we were talking about IP in the music world, and that’s a pretty contentious topic that I think we could do on our own with that episode.  But can you broadly explain why would somebody not want patents or copyright?  Doesn’t that give artists money?  I mean shouldn’t people want to have some kind of incentive for their work?  I know it’s kind of asking you to explain a really, really big thing in a short while, but let’s give it a shot. 00:02:39 STEPHAN KINSELLA: Well, I mean lots of things give artists money or give other people money.  I mean the COVID payments right now are going to lots of people.  And you could say, well, why would you want to stop giving people free money?  I mean isn’t that good to give them money?  The question for libertarians is one of justice.  The intellectual property thing can be explained for normal people by explaining to them some principles of private property in all this and explaining why IP law is incompatible with that. 00:03:07 But for libertarians, I’m going to take that for granted.  If you favor free markets and private property rights, if you oppose state censorship, if you are in favor of competition, then you ought to be opposed to patent and copyright law because these are government intrusions into the free market that reduce competition, restrict competition, and censor free speech.  They’re not what they’re sold as.  They’re not really systems that help the small guy, help the artist.  They are really rooted in the government – in copyright, they’re rooted in the government practice of censorship, that is, state control of what can be printed. 00:03:45 And for patents, they were rooted in state grants of monopoly privilege to protect people from competition, and that’s what they’ve turned into now.  So they basically reduce and impede innovation, make us all poorer, reduce competition.  They harm the consumer, and copyright law threatens internet freedom.  Websites are taken down all the time.  Books can’t be published, and the white paper is now being – going to be taken down from bitcoin.org because of a state court using force in the name of copyright law.  So this is a perfect example of how copyright law is censorship. 00:04:28 TATIANA MOROZ: How does that work?  Because – okay, so I don’t pay attention to Craig Wright.  I’ve got a couple random friends tell me that BSC has some kind of utility and it’s okay in certain ways.  I’m like, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever.  But I don’t pay attention to this big fight, and I never thought we would come to this point where, all of a sudden, there are some headlines saying that we’re not allowed to use it on bitcoin.org anymore because it belongs to Craig Wright.  And I haven’t taken the time to truly delve in, and I think some people are feeling similarly to me.  So can you explain to me who gave who the authority to decide that he is – and are they saying he’s definitely Satoshi and so nobody is allowed to use his work?  How does this – what’s happening here? 00:05:09 STEPHAN KINSELLA: No.  No, he’s not – as far as I know, he’s not Satoshi.  It wouldn’t matter if he was, but he’s not as far as I can tell.  And this legal outcome doesn’t indicate that whatsoever.  Of course, they’re going to claim that it does because they’re dishonest.  They did this recently.  So the way it works is copyright is granted automatically under almost all nations’ copyright law,
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Jun 27, 2021 • 0sec

KOL345 | Kinsella’s Libertarian “Constitution” or: State Constitutions vs. the Libertarian Private Law Code (PorcFest 2021)

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 345. Related: Structural Safeguards to Limit Legislation and State Power Constitutional Structures in Defense of Freedom (ASC 1998) Randy Barnett’s “Federalism Amendment”–A Counterproposal; and related posts How to Fix the US KOL345 | Kinsella’s Libertarian “Constitution” or: State Constitutions vs. the Libertarian Private Law Code (PorcFest 2021) KOL359 | State Constitutions vs. the Libertarian Private Law Code (PFS 2021) Libertarian Nation and Related Projects Update:  See The Universal Principles of Liberty (Aug. 14, 2025) and Libertarian Nation and Related Projects (cataloging various libertarian "free nation" and related projects) This was my talk delivered today (June 26, 2021) at PorcFest 2021: "Kinsella’s Libertarian “Constitution,” or: State Constitutions vs. the Libertarian Private Law Code." The notes that I roughly followed are below; pix also below. Transcript below. For a related talk, see KOL359 | State Constitutions vs. the Libertarian Private Law Code (PFS 2021) Youtube https://youtu.be/hK6LyjRvvCk This is the video with better audio added after from my iphone recording, with the help of Jacob Lovell. Below is the original with passable audio https://youtu.be/6qzJXBWLhTA Related: Structural Safeguards to Limit Legislation and State Power Constitutional Structures in Defense of Freedom (ASC 1998) Randy Barnett’s “Federalism Amendment”–A Counterproposal; and related posts How to Fix the US KOL345 | Kinsella’s Libertarian “Constitution” or: State Constitutions vs. the Libertarian Private Law Code (PorcFest 2021) KOL359 | State Constitutions vs. the Libertarian Private Law Code (PFS 2021) The description from the PorcFest website (which will probably disappear at some time in the future): Kinsella’s Libertarian “Constitution” —————– When: Sat, 12:00P _(60m) Speaker: Stephan Kinsella {Website} {Pic}, An American intellectual property attorney and Austro-anarcho-libertarian writer and speaker for 25 years. He has spoken, lectured and published widely on various areas of libertarian legal theory such as rights theory, anarchism, contract theory, intellectual property, and on legal topics such as intellectual property law and international law. His legal works include International Investment, Political Risk, and Dispute Resolution: A Practitioner’s Guide (Oxford University Press, 2020) and Louisiana Civil Law Dictionary (Quid Pro Books, 2011); his libertarian writing includes Against Intellectual Property (Mises Institute 2008) and the forthcoming Law in a Libertarian World (Papinian Press, 2021). Forthcoming works include Copy This Book: The Case for Abolishing Intellectual Property (2022), and a systematic, codified statement of libertarian principles as an alternative to constitutions and committee-prepared political platforms. For Whom: Constitutionalists; secessionists; Federal reformers; decentralists; polycentrists; anarcho-capitalists. Description: State constitutions, including the US Constitution, are not libertarian. The purpose of the US Constitution was to establish a new, powerful, central state, not to protect individual rights. Efforts to draft “libertarian constitutions” are also often flawed, as when they presuppose and legitimate a state or a territory owned by a single owner (Liberland). Does the idea of a “libertarian constitution” make sense? What kind of codification or statement of libertarian principles is appropriate? {More} Where: Anth: Anthem Theater, OfficeBld   ❧ TRANSCRIPT Kinsella’s Libertarian “Constitution” or: State Constitutions vs. the Libertarian Private Law Code Stephan Kinsella PorcFest 2021, Lancaster NH June 26, 2021 00:00:01 W: … published by the Mises Institute in 2008 and the forthcoming Law and the Libertarian World.  So Stephan, I’ll let you take it away about state constitutions. 00:00:10 STEPHAN KINSELLA: Okay.  Thanks a lot.  If you can’t hear me, let me know.  I have no mic.  I speak kind of loud and kind of fast even though… 00:00:17 W: If we need to turn it up we can, so let us know. 00:00:19 STEPHAN KINSELLA: All right, so my talk is – I’ll explain the title as we get into this: Kinsella’s Libertarian “Constitution.”  So I prepared a libertarian constitution, and I hope to cover as much of its 18 parts and 45 pages as possible in this next hour.  So part one, section A, subsection 1: definitions.  I’m just joking.  I’m not going to read my constitution.  I haven’t even finished writing it yet.  I read this to my wife and she said, Is this what you geeks think is funny?  I said we’ll see.  I said half the people in the audience might be relieved, but the other half might be, damn, I really wanted to hear a libertarian constitution read to me point by point. 00:01:03 I’m going to talk about the idea of constitutions and libertarianism and whether the whole idea makes sense at all.  So I’ve been a libertarian since about 1982, and I’ve seen so many libertarian – utopian libertarian projects that I can’t even remember them all.  Most of them are scams I think or failures, and I’ve been involved in a few of them, so I’m just going to go through a few.  Some of you guys may be familiar with some of these, but this is just going back to my memory archives from the ‘80s. 00:01:34 So there’s, of course, always the idea to have a cruise ship type of nation like – now it’s called seasteading or Blueseed.  But the earlier version was called Oceania, the Atlantis Project.  And then those same people that started Oceania years later started something called Project Lifeboat, which is an attempt to create a spaceship so we could save the human race from the singularity that Vernor Vinge, a libertarian sci-fi writer, was talking about.  Occasionally, crazy guys homesteading oil rigs that are abandoned and calling it a nation. 00:02:05 There’s, on occasion, private justice and arbitration and common law groups that crop up.  There’s one that cropped up a couple years ago called the Creative Common Law project, and the guy that started it was on Tom Woods’ Show, and I thought it was intriguing.  So we got in touch, and he got me on board as an advisor.  It was called Creative Common Law 1.0: Anarcho-Capitalism.  And then a few months ago I looked up the website to update my resume, and everything had been changed, and now it’s moved to Creative Common Law 2.0: Anarcho-Socialism and Syndicalism.  And the guy told me he changed his mind.  I’m like – I’m always wary of what I call way station libertarians, guys that came into it like ten minutes ago because I like – let it sit for five years and see if you’re still here. 00:02:54 Libertarian law professor, Tom Bell, has created something called Ulex, an open source legal operating system. [Libertarian Nation and Related Projects (cataloging various libertarian "free nation" and related projects)] He’s trying to get people to collaborate to develop kind of a libertarian-ish common law framework.  LiberLand, which I actually helped draft an early constitution for, which we published an article on called “The Voluntaryist Constitution.”  Galt’s Gulch Chile, which some of you guys may have heard of, which I think it was a scam that ended in a disaster.  I think my friend – well… 00:03:24 Honduras economic zones – they were trying to get some kind of free market enclaves there for awhile.  I was awhile associated with General Governance, which was started by David Johnson who is now a Bitcoin guy.  And the idea was to work with Indian tribes in the US and leverage their special constitutional status to try to extend their free market – or enclaves to – so American citizens could work there without paying federal tax.  And he promised me that this would be – the whole country would be libertarian within nine months, and this was ten years ago.  He abandoned it to do Bitcoin.  We actually met with the Indian tribes north of Houston, and they were interested. 00:04:05 But the Free State Project is another one of course, which is having some success.  There is a constitution written called the Libertarian Constitution on the National Constitution Center.  It’s written by some libertarians like Tim Sandefur and some others.  Roderick Long even made a stab at it even though he’s an anarchist.  It was kind of a Swiss-style model.  He wrote it years ago. 00:04:28 And then there’s others.  Even Dennis Pratt here has written something on the Bill of Rights.  So as I said, I’ve been dragooned into helping with some of these like General Governance, and there’s a Mississippi legislator named Joel Bomgar, a big Christian guy, a nice guy, successful businessman, and a libertarian.  And he wanted me to help him draft a constitution. 00:04:46 LiberLand – I swam with Wit, the president, in Turkey at Hoppe’s conference a couple years ago, and he went to the bottom to get a rock about 30 feet down.  And I tried to follow and I almost busted my eardrums, and he said, no, you have to push out with your lungs.  I said thanks for telling me now.  Anyway, others I’ve forgotten.  So they all – these guys always talk about perfecting the Constitution or improving the Constitution or writing a better constitution. 00:05:14 But why do we even use the word constitution as libertarians as if it’s a good thing?  So the modern libertarian movement in the US started I’d say in the ‘50s with Ayn Rand principally and then others like Milton Friedman and Leonard Read and Mises and Rothbard.  And because of this American base and Ayn Rand’s reverence for the American system as opposed to the Soviet system she left, there’s always been a reverence among libertarian circles for the Declaration, the War of Independence, the Constitution. 00:05:48 I mean the libertarian party uses the frickin’ liberty bell, the Statue of Liberty,
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Jun 18, 2021 • 59min

KOL344 | With Adam Terrell of Theocracy: Copyrights Are Unlawful

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 344. This is my appearance with Adam Terrell of the Theocracy podcast: 022 Copyrights Are Unlawful with Stephan Kinsella (recorded May 7, 2021). From his shownotes: Now, some of you know I have a background in media production. And I have gotten royalty checks and benefitted from a copyright "tradition" (I don't call it law) on multiple occasions, and I have family who have had their entire livelihoods supported by it. So how can I say in the title that "Copyrights Are Unlawful?" Stephan Kinsella is my guest today. I found him through Tom Woods's podcast years back, and I've run in to his talks at Mises University online several times. He's a patent attorney who has helped me think through these issues practically relating to intellectual property and why it doesn't exist. I believe there is a Bible verse I can point to as well in Exodus, but we'll get to that. We get in to some less-than-settled issues as well. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/07enqNJEVY2HS2dV62CtRr Youtube: https://youtu.be/ml_yZqTtlWM
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Jun 11, 2021 • 0sec

KOL343 | Aborted IP Debate with Nina Prevot; IP and Libertarianism Q&A

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 343. This is an IP and libertarianism Q&A. It was originally supposed to be a debate with an intellectual property attorney on IP but after challenging me, she bowed out. I went live at the appointed time anyway and discussed it briefly, and fielded questions from those that tuned in. We started off in Youtube live stream and because it sucks, I switched over to a Zoom call 34 minutes in so others could ask questions and participate (next time I'll use Zoom only). This started when someone on Twitter recommended my Against Intellectual Property: https://twitter.com/lpky/status/1402789745407807488 To which one @libertascoco responded with this snipe: https://twitter.com/libertascoco/status/1402820244851154945 It later turned out that she is be soi-disant IP attorney Nina Prevot, whose Youtube channel is here and who has discussed and ham-fisted, ineptly attempted to defend IP here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNq5J7YoBOo Then she challenged me to a debate, after falsely claiming I never debate people: https://twitter.com/libertascoco/status/1402993126915010567 I instantly took her up on it: https://twitter.com/NSKinsella/status/1402995267234779144 But she ended up backing out so I went online at 7pm anyway. The main reason I was willing to debate her was to let observers see how weak her arguments would be, and to confirm my repeated claim that “There are No Good Arguments for Intellectual Property” (see also “Absurd Arguments for IP”). Anyhow, I went online as noted above and discussed IP and other libertarian issues with the audience. This one was not as tight as most of my material, and I thought it was a bit sloppy and all over the map, but many of the participants seemed to enjoy it, so here it is, FWIW. Youtube of the discussion: https://youtu.be/G0_3ffxzHz0 Cade Share, "A Defense of Rothbardian Ethics via a Mediation of Hoppe and Rand"
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Jun 6, 2021 • 0sec

KOL342 | Bitcoin2021 Announcement: Open Crypto Alliance

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 342. The Bitcoin2021 audience Thanks to the good offices of my friend Vijay Boyapati, author of the new book-length version of The Bullish Case for Bitcoin, the organizers of bitcoin2021 in Miami, June 4-5 2021, graciously gave me two minutes to make an announcement about the Open Crypto Alliance (@OpenCryptoX) and its work, on Saturday June 5. I was introduced by Charlie Shrem. Transcript below. Youtube: https://youtu.be/-ns4R3Y41Lw Note (4/20/22): The video above was taken down by a copyright strike from Bitcoin Magazine (ironically). They have promised to restore it, but in the meantime, here is the backup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVDNEnRAZU4&t=15865s Kinsella and Vijay Backstage with my copy of Vijay's Bullish Case for Bitcoin TRANSCRIPT Bitcoin2021 Announcement: Open Crypto Alliance Stephan Kinsella Bitcoin2021, Miami, June 5, 2021 My name is Stephan Kinsella and I'm a libertarian theorist, patent attorney, and patent abolitionist. I'm a member of the Open Crypto Alliance, recently formed to combat the growing threat to the bitcoin and blockchain ecosystems posed by patents being filed in this space, by companies such as nChain, Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, Mastercard, and others. nChain, for example, has over 20 European patents already granted, and hundreds more filed and pending and about 23,000 blockchain and crypto patents have been filed in the last couple years. These patent filings are of grave concern to those of us in the Bitcoin ecosystem. Our partner group, Square's Crypto Open Patent Alliance, or COPA, addresses this problem by having members pledge never to use their crypto-technology patents offensively. However, this is of limited use against patent trolls and patent holders who are not members of the alliance. Our group, the Open Crypto Alliance, is focused on preventing abusive patents from being granted in the first place by trying to knock these patents out. We do this by identifying dangerous patents, finding prior art that the patent office should have considered, and submitting a challenge to the patent. We are actually working on our first challenge and we're seeking help from experts who have a deep understanding of elliptic curve cryptography. If anyone would like to help, please contact us at www.OpenCryptoAlliance.org Thank you.
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Jun 5, 2021 • 56min

KOL341 | ESEADE Lecture: Should We Release Patents on Vaccines? An Overview of Libertarian Property Rights and the Case Against IP

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 341. This was a webinar I did for an Argentinian audience for ESEADE May 26, 2021. The topic was formally "Should We Release Patents on Vaccines" ("¿Hay que liberar las patentes sobre las vacunas?"). In this talk, I briefly provide an overview of the nature of property rights and the principled case against IP, then apply it to vaccines, and took questions from the audience. Grok shownotes: In this webinar hosted by ESEADE on May 26, 2021, Stephan Kinsella, a prominent libertarian thinker and patent attorney, delivers a compelling case against intellectual property (IP) rights, focusing on the question of whether patents on vaccines should be released (0:00-6:05). Kinsella begins by outlining libertarian property rights, rooted in the Austrian School’s emphasis on scarcity and human action, arguing that property rights apply to scarce, physical resources, not intangible ideas (6:06-16:35). He critiques the utilitarian justification for patents, asserting they create artificial scarcity, hinder competition, and fail to deliver the promised innovation, using the vaccine patent debate as a case study to illustrate how patents restrict access to life-saving technologies (16:36-27:05). Kinsella’s libertarian framework emphasizes that ideas, being non-scarce, should be freely shared to maximize societal benefit, challenging the notion that patents are necessary for progress. Kinsella further dismantles the patent system by examining its historical roots in state-granted monopolies and its practical flaws, such as encouraging wasteful litigation and redundant research (27:06-37:50). He argues that vaccine patents, particularly during a global health crisis, exemplify the harm of IP by limiting production and access, proposing that abolishing patents would enhance innovation and availability (37:51-48:20). In the Q&A session, Kinsella addresses audience questions on trade secrets, the morality of IP, and the role of government in vaccine distribution, reinforcing his stance that a free market unburdened by IP would better serve humanity (48:21-1:02:42). He concludes by urging listeners to reject IP as a state-imposed distortion, advocating for a world where knowledge flows freely to drive progress (1:02:43-1:03:12). This lecture is a concise yet thorough exploration of libertarian principles applied to a pressing real-world issue. [Update: See also FDA and Patent Reform: A Modest Proposal; “Patents, Pharma, Government: The Unholy Alliance,” Brownstone Institute (April 1, 2024), Kinsella, "Are Patents Needed to Make Up for FDA Kneecapping?" (July 2, 2011).] Transcript and Grok DETAILED summary below. Youtube: https://youtu.be/EgYS8ldQ_AY Original video: https://youtu.be/-mjc7ZjYQ0o GROK SUMMARY Bullet-Point Summary for Show Notes with Time Markers and Block Summaries Overview Stephan Kinsella’s ESEADE webinar, delivered on May 26, 2021, addresses the question “Should We Release Patents on Vaccines?” while presenting a broader libertarian critique of intellectual property (IP). Using Austrian economics and libertarian property rights theory, Kinsella argues that patents, including those on vaccines, impose artificial scarcity on non-scarce ideas, stifling innovation and access. The 63-minute lecture, followed by a Q&A, combines theoretical insights with practical examples, advocating for the abolition of IP to foster a free market. Below is a summary with bullet points for key themes and detailed descriptions for each 5-15 minute block. Key Themes with Time Markers Introduction and Libertarian Context (0:00-6:05): Kinsella is introduced as a leading libertarian thinker and patent attorney, setting the stage for his critique of IP and the vaccine patent debate. Property Rights and Scarcity (6:06-16:35): Explains libertarian property rights, emphasizing that only scarce, physical resources warrant ownership, not ideas, which are non-scarce. Critique of Patents’ Utilitarian Basis (16:36-27:05): Argues that patents fail to promote innovation, creating monopolies that restrict competition and access, especially for vaccines. Historical and Practical Flaws of Patents (27:06-37:50): Traces patents to state monopolies and highlights their inefficiencies, like litigation costs and redundant research. Vaccine Patents and Market Solutions (37:51-48:20): Applies the critique to vaccine patents, advocating for their abolition to increase production and access in a free market. Q&A and Broader Implications (48:21-1:02:42): Addresses audience questions on trade secrets, IP morality, and government’s role, reinforcing the case for abolishing IP. Conclusion and Call to Action (1:02:43-1:03:12): Urges listeners to reject IP as a statist distortion, promoting a free market driven by knowledge sharing. Block-by-Block Summaries 0:00-5:00 (Introduction and Context) Description: Host Juan Ignacio Ibañez introduces Kinsella as a prominent libertarian thinker, patent attorney, and director of the Center for the Study of Innovative Freedom (0:00-2:35). Kinsella thanks ESEADE and outlines the lecture’s focus: applying libertarian property rights to the question of releasing vaccine patents (2:36-5:00). He sets a conversational tone, promising a Q&A session. Summary: The block establishes Kinsella’s credentials and the lecture’s goal, framing the vaccine patent debate within a libertarian critique of IP. 5:01-10:00 (Libertarian Property Rights Basics) Description: Kinsella introduces libertarian property rights, drawing on Austrian economists like Mises and Rothbard (5:01-7:20). He explains that property rights arise from scarcity, as only rivalrous resources require ownership to avoid conflict, using the example of a hammer (7:21-10:00). Ideas, being non-scarce, do not fit this framework. Summary: This block lays the theoretical foundation, contrasting scarce physical resources with non-scarce ideas to challenge the legitimacy of IP. 10:01-15:00 (Human Action and Ideas) Description: Kinsella uses Mises’ praxeology to describe human action, where individuals use scarce means to achieve ends, guided by knowledge (10:01-12:45). He argues that ideas, like recipes, are not means but guides, and their non-scarce nature means they can be shared without loss (12:46-15:00). Property rights in ideas (IP) are thus unnatural. Summary: The role of knowledge in guiding action is clarified, emphasizing that ideas’ non-scarcity makes IP an artificial restriction, setting up the vaccine patent critique. 15:01-20:00 (Critique of Patent Justifications) Description: Kinsella critiques the utilitarian argument for patents, which claims they incentivize innovation by granting monopolies (15:01-17:30). He argues that patents create artificial scarcity, raising costs and limiting competition, and questions their necessity, citing examples like open-source software (17:31-20:00). Summary: This block challenges the core justification for patents, highlighting their negative impact on competition and innovation, with implications for vaccines. 20:01-25:00 (Patents’ Harmful Effects) Description: Kinsella details how patents lead to monopolistic pricing, litigation, and redundant research, citing studies showing minimal innovation benefits (20:01-22:50). He connects this to vaccines, noting that patents restrict production, delaying access during pandemics (22:51-25:00). Summary: The practical harms of patents are outlined, with vaccine patents as a prime example of how IP exacerbates scarcity in critical areas. 25:01-30:00 (Historical Roots of Patents) Description: Kinsella traces patents to 15th-century Venetian monopolies and the 1623 Statute of Monopolies, arguing they were state privileges, not market-driven (25:01-27:50). He criticizes the patent system’s complexity and cost, which favor large corporations over innovators (27:51-30:00). Summary: The statist origins of patents are exposed, reinforcing their incompatibility with free-market principles and their inefficiency in practice. 30:01-35:00 (Patents vs. Free Market Innovation) Description: Kinsella argues that innovation thrives without patents, citing industries like fashion and software where competition drives progress (30:01-32:30). He notes that patents often protect trivial inventions, clogging the system and diverting resources (32:31-35:00). Summary: This block contrasts the free market’s ability to innovate with the patent system’s inefficiencies, strengthening the case against vaccine patents. 35:01-40:00 (Vaccine Patents and Global Access) Description: Kinsella focuses on vaccine patents, arguing they limit production by granting monopolies to a few firms, delaying global access (35:01-37:50). He proposes that abolishing patents would allow more manufacturers to produce vaccines, citing historical examples of patent-free innovation (37:51-40:00). Summary: The vaccine patent issue is directly addressed, showing how IP restricts access and how a patent-free market could solve this problem. 40:01-45:00 (Alternatives to Patents) Description: Kinsella discusses alternatives like trade secrets, which don’t require state enforcement, and market incentives like first-mover advantage (40:01-42:30). He argues that vaccine development would continue without patents, driven by demand and competition (42:31-45:00). Summary: Practical alternatives to patents are explored, reinforcing that innovation doesn’t depend on IP, even for complex products like vaccines. 45:01-50:00 (Q&A: Trade Secrets and Morality) Description: In the Q&A, Kinsella addresses whether trade secrets are a better alternative, clarifying that they don’t restrict others’ use of ideas (45:01-47:30). He responds to a question on IP’s morality, arguing it’s theft of property rights from original owners (47:31-50:00).
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Jun 4, 2021 • 0sec

KOL340 | Politified Official Stephan Kinsella Interview

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 340. "Watch as Benjamin Politics, Bleu Politics and Mencius Kuang interview well renowned economist Stephan Kinsella" (Jan. 12, 2021) Youtube: https://youtu.be/WUmObXbAVTA Original: https://youtu.be/Z3kcgDPM5BE
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Jun 1, 2021 • 15min

KOL339 | Foreword to A Spontaneous Order (audio)

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 339. This is an audio version of my Foreword to Chase Rachels' A Spontaneous Order, narrated by Graham Wright. https://youtu.be/aRSLyEukURs

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