Kinsella On Liberty

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 358. I was interviewed by Marc Victor and Andy Marcantel of the Live and Let Live project about libertarianism. https://youtu.be/N0Mqp9Di_z8

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 357. I was a guest recently on Peter Quiñones' show Free Man Beyond The Wall, Episode 631 (Sept. 15, 2021). From his shownotes: Pete and Stephan discuss the Constitutionality of Biden's vaccine mandate and then get into discussions about Hoppe's plan for local politics and how it can fight against overreach by the Feds. I post this from Bodrum, Turkey, at the 2021 PFS meeting, watching Saif Ammous talk about bitcoin. The internet is wonderful. Grok shownotes: In this episode of the Free Man Beyond the Wall podcast, host Pete Quinones welcomes back patent attorney and author Stephan Kinsella to discuss pressing libertarian issues, starting with Joe Biden’s vaccine mandate announced in September 2021 (1:00-3:39). Kinsella critiques the mandate as unjust and potentially unconstitutional, predicting a 60% chance it survives legal challenges, though it may be struck down as illegal under current OSHA rules. The conversation explores the broader implications of federal overreach, contrasting it with state-level responses like Florida’s resistance under Governor DeSantis, which Kinsella views as strategically preferable despite its own libertarian shortcomings (5:02-9:20). They also touch on the cultural mania surrounding COVID policies, with Quinones expressing shock at public compliance and Kinsella noting the temporary nature of these measures compared to enduring state injustices like war and taxation (15:01-20:05). The discussion shifts to deeper libertarian strategies, drawing heavily on Hans-Hermann Hoppe’s ideas of decentralization and covenant communities as a path to liberty (22:00-39:46). Kinsella advocates for nullification and secession as bold responses to federal mandates, emphasizing the importance of local politics and natural elites in fostering decentralized, voluntary societies (8:25-9:58, 44:42-47:37). They critique the left’s egalitarian chaos versus the right’s hierarchical order, aligning with Hoppe’s view of natural hierarchies as essential for a free society (41:15-44:37). The episode concludes with reflections on global COVID responses, particularly Australia’s authoritarian measures, and the potential for secession movements in the U.S. as federalism persists (30:58-36:04). Kinsella and Quinones also briefly address contentious libertarian topics like intellectual property, abortion, and borders, underscoring the need for anarchist solutions to resolve these intractable issues (49:19-50:38). Transcript and grok analysis/summary below. https://youtu.be/jFYMO6wzO8c             Transcript 0:00 people people people richard Grobe is starting season six of his autonomy 0:05 course and you really should be there i don't think I could have gotten through the last 16 months of this world without 0:14 the skills that Richard Grove gave me so head on over to freemanbyondtheall.comutonomy 0:22 check it out there's two links there one's to an overview of the course another is to a 19 skills PDF download 0:29 go check out that video sign up for the course and get on Richard's level thank 0:35 you [Music] 0:49 [Music] 1:00 hello everyone i want to welcome you to the Free Man Beyond the Wall podcast this is your host Pinz i invited Stefan 1:06 Consella to return to the show stefan is a patent attorney and he wrote the book 1:13 against intellectual property i asked Stefan to come on and answer some 1:19 questions about Joe Biden's mandate how constitutional he thinks it is what he 1:25 thinks is going to happen with it does he think that states are going to nullify it and then we're just going to 1:31 start talking about a host of subjects we're going to get into some hapa we're going to get into some local politics 1:38 and we just get into a conversation like we normally have when we're talking by ourselves 1:44 so without any further delay here is Stefan Canella 1:49 canella my man how are you doing i'm doing well how you doing good man let's just jump right in because you are I am 1:57 so jealous of where you are leaving to go tonight uh you want to tell everybody i'm heading tonight to uh Bodum Turkey 2:05 through Istanbul with uh several of my friends are going too greg Moran from 2:10 Atlanta and Juan Carpio from Ecuador u who you know I think you met some 2:15 Anthony Samuroff um is going too and lots of Sedina Moose is going um of 2:21 course Hans will be there ho will be there so uh yeah this may be my 10th time we started this in 2006 I believe i 2:30 missed a few because of kid issues but um we missed last year of course because of COVID so I think it's a truncated 2:36 group this year because of COVID we'll see when I get there it could be smaller more intimate but anyway I'm I'm looking forward to it cool making plans for next 2:43 year wish I was one of that group okay so let's just jump right in what are you 2:48 making of this mandate last week that Biden came up with and what do you think 2:54 the courts are going to say about it i haven't I I don't know i mean my first 2:59 impulse is that it's outrageous of course but then you know there's lots of things the state has done the last 200 3:06 years which are outrageous and they just didn't get reported as much because it was before the internet i mean I'm not 3:12 so sure that uh it's beyond OSHA's purview because everything else OSHA does is insane too um 3:20 the best theory I've heard is that it will be struck down as illegal but not unconstitutional so uh Congress will 3:27 have to revise the OSHA rules or something like that to let them do this but I wouldn't bet on it i'd say there's 3:32 a 60% chance it will it will it will survive um which which is crazy i think 3:39 it's totally unjust and unlbertarian and um I would say unamerican but apparently it's not what do you think 3:47 completely insane i mean we've gone off the rails in 18 months if you would have told me back in January of last year 3:57 half the things that have happened people people have embraced and talked about federalism 4:03 the governor of California re referred to California as its own nation and then 4:12 that people would just not only comply Yeah with what every 4:18 with everything but become warriors for it almost like you know hey you know my 4:23 grandfather fought in World War II and he did his part and this is me doing my part and you know all I need to do is 4:30 stay home or yeah wear a mask and scallop people who aren't wearing masks 4:35 or get this vaccine that you know I mean just a a strange mania has overtaken the 4:42 nation i don't understand why because we've had previous pandemics and we didn't have this happen maybe it just 4:49 Jeff Tucker and others have tried to explain why i still don't quite get it but um I'm not quite as I mean I'm not 4:56 as much of a vaccine skeptic I think as some other people so I mean I'm still as a libertarian I'm against all the policy 5:02 issues the same way as you uh you and I had a little maybe disagreement on the Florida thing uh and the interesting 5:09 that happened before this Biden thing so my first thought was I guess I spoke too soon opposing Dantis but the 5:16 more I thought about it I still think I I'm back to my original view so in both cases you have the the federal 5:23 government trying to tell businesses what to do they're trying to tell them you have to insist that employees are 5:30 vaccinated and in Dantis' case he's telling them what to do he's saying you cannot request that or you cannot uh 5:37 require your employees to be vaccinated so technically they're both unlbertarian 5:42 right but of course you know I guess you're looking at it from more strategic or overall forest for the trees point of 5:48 view which one is really worse we know which one's the big enemy as always it's the federal government and the central state and in this case you know it's 5:56 worse to force people to inject the vaccine into their body than to uh suffer a fine for asking your employees 6:03 to you know prove that they're vaccinated I guess so I guess that's how I come down on it but I still think 6:09 they're both unlbertarian I guess is my my my my perspective yeah I think it and 6:15 I agree i mean private property is not is just out the 6:20 window at this point i mean correct the idea of it and I just look at what what's more 6:28 strategic at this point so when you have when you have 18 months of insanity 6:33 and you've seen people suffer and you've I mean I I know p personal horror 6:41 stories that I I don't even I don't even talk about because I don't have permission to talk about them and 6:49 you just look and you're like okay so you know I was in Georgia up until recently i left Georgia and moved to the 6:55 Midwest um a couple months ago and Georgia came out of it and last week in 7:02 April last year said businesses can reopen if they want to and a lot of businesses reopen and stayed open um 7:09 cities did mandates which you know is really not I'd rather cities do mandates 7:15

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 356. I was interviewed by Caleb Brown on the topic of IP--explained what it is, its origins, how it's a type of crony capitalism, and how it emerged historically and acquired the name "intellectual property." Recorded Sep. 4, 2021. https://youtu.be/E4_oafovCyY

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 355. I was a guest today (Aug. 20, 2021) on The Bitcoin Group. https://youtu.be/cZXCDRpXVCQ Shownotes: Featuring… Joshua Scigala (https://twitter.com/Vaultoro) Dan Eve (https://twitter.com/cryptopoly) Stephan Kinsella (https://twitter.com/NSKinsella) and Thomas Hunt (https://twitter.com/MadBitcoins) THIS WEEK: Crypto Price Prediction: Bitcoin Could Be About To Soar To $100,000 And Ethereum To $5,000 As Cardano And Solana Suddenly Surge https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybam... Cade Cunningham Partners With BlockFi, Will Be Paid Sign-on Bonus in Bitcoin - The Street Crypto: Bitcoin and cryptocurrency news, advice, analysis and more https://www.thestreet.com/crypto/bitc... US Mortgage Giant To Accept Bitcoin This Year, Considers Other Cryptocurrencies https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-mor... Coinbase will buy $500M in crypto and invest 10% of all future profits in digital assets https://cointelegraph.com/news/coinba...

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 354. Related: Libertarian Answer Man: Restrictive Covenants and Homeowners Associations (HOAs) Libertarian Answer Man: Restrictive Covenants, Reserved Rights, and Copyright KOL479 | Co-Ownership Revisited: Property Rights, Exclusion, Contracts, and Edge Cases, with Nick Sinard KOL354 | CDA §230, Being “Part of the State,” Co-ownership, Causation, Defamation, with Nick Sinard Libertarian Answer Man: Corporations, Trusts, HOAs, and Private Law Codes in a Private Law Society Libertarian Nicholas Sinard asked me to field some questions about the referenced issues, so we did so. Update: some of these issues also discussed in Libertarian Answer Man: Restrictive Covenants and Homeowners Associations (HOAs) and Libertarian Answer Man: Restrictive Covenants, Reserved Rights, and Copyright. https://youtu.be/54pMdixfWTI Relevant links: No, Libertarians, We Should NOT Abolish the CDA §230 and DMCA Safe Harbors! Hello! You’ve Been Referred Here Because You’re Wrong About Section 230 Of The Communications Decency Act Hello! You’ve Been Referred Here Because You’re Wrong About Intellectual Property Is Macy’s Part of the State? A Critique of Left Deviationists Michael Rectenwald, Who Really Owns Big Digital Tech?: "By now it should be perfectly clear that the most prominent Big Digital companies are not strictly private, for-profit companies. As I argued in Google Archipelago, they are also state apparatuses, or governmentalities, undertaking state functions, including censorship, propaganda, and surveillance." Walter Block, "A Libertarian Analysis of Suing for Libel," LewRockwell.com (Sep. 5, 2014) Causation and Aggression (with Patrick Tinsley), The Quarterly Journal of Austrian Economics, vol. 7, no. 4 (Winter 2004): 97-112 Jeffrey Tucker, Backdoor Censorship through Libel Law; Techdirt Podcast Episode 266: In Defense Of Section 230 & A Decentralized Internet A Libertarian Theory of Contract: Title Transfer, Binding Promises, and Inalienability, Journal of Libertarian Studies 17, no. 2 (Spring 2003): 11-37 Hoppe on Property Rights in Physical Integrity vs Value “Aggression” versus “Harm” in Libertarianism Youtube transcript as cleaned up by Grok: Transcript: Stephan Kinsella and Nick Sinard Discuss CDA 230 and Libertarian Issues Stephan Kinsella (0:02): Okay, hey, this is Stephan Kinsella with a different edition of Kinsella on Liberty. One of my internet acquaintances, Nick Sinard—is that the right pronunciation? Nick Sinard: Yes. Stephan Kinsella: He's joining us. You wanted to chat about something today. I forgot what it was. I did two Tom Woods episodes last week, and things are blending together, so I'm forgetting what we were gonna talk about, but I'll let you bring up whatever you want. Go ahead. Introduce yourself too, if you don't mind. Nick Sinard (0:29): I'm just Nick Sinard, been a libertarian for like eight years. I got a few businesses and stuff, but maggotsnicksart.com, you know, I put some libertarian stuff up on there, but it's been a while since I've updated it. Stephan Kinsella (0:50): For some reason, I thought you were a foreigner, an outsider, a Frenchman or something with that name, but you sound Southern to me. Nick Sinard: Yeah, it is French, but yeah. Stephan Kinsella (1:01): What state are you in or from? Nick Sinard: Tennessee, close to the Great Smoky Mountains. Stephan Kinsella: Alright, two Southerners on the line then. Let's try to keep the IQ level, the total IQ level, above 100 if we can. It'll be a challenge, I know. Now, I guess I want to talk about mostly three things I think are all pretty interrelated. One you're starting to see more is that libertarians are starting to act like or say that Facebook's a part of the state. Nick Sinard (1:26): Oh no, yeah, I see that more. Stephan Kinsella: Another one I think that's related is kind of the Section 230 thing, or even libertarians will bring that up. And then I've seen, it's not as popular as it used to be, but terms of service violations as aggression. I've seen a few libertarians make that, but I think that's just confusion on liability and contract. Nick Sinard (1:50): I haven't heard that one too much. Stephan Kinsella (1:58): I don't recall ever hearing that terms of service are aggression. You could argue that they're not a binding contract, and I think there are good arguments for that. Nick Sinard (2:04): Well, I'm just saying, on that one, I've seen people say, well, you know, Facebook or Twitter didn't follow their own terms of service, so someone has the right to force them to do. Stephan Kinsella (2:18): Oh, right, yeah, that's a confusion of libertarian property and contract theory. That's true. But I guess start with the first one, which is the most popular one I've seen talked about on a few shows, actually, and many people in the Mises Caucus group pretty much say Facebook is a part of the state just because they're cooperating with the state when it comes to what information the government wants on its platform. Nick Sinard (2:42): You know, and they're like, right now, it's a part of the state, therefore, you know, I've seen some say that, no, I don't want legislation or anything like that, but you can say you don't want legislation to affect Facebook, but if you're saying Facebook's a part of the state, that does enter into some dangerous grounds. Stephan Kinsella (3:00): I agree. I mean, I think if you conclude someone is, you should say it. You shouldn't be afraid of the consequences, but you should be cautious and try to do it carefully. I guess I've been thinking about this too. Why do people feel compelled to do this? Like, why this witch hunt to classify Google, et cetera, as part of the state, or corporations? Like, the left libertarians want to say that about corporations because they have this limited liability privilege grant, so-called. I mean, I think, first, as libertarians, it's important to understand the state because it's the biggest aggressor. So we have an analysis and theory of the state. So the state is an identifiable actor, agent, or entity in society, and it plays a certain role. It's the institutionalized source of aggression. Now, we libertarians oppose aggression in general, so we oppose what I would say is private aggression and public aggression or aggression by private criminals, which is why we need self-defense and defense agencies and laws and courts and things like that. And we also oppose institutionalized aggression, and it seems clear that institutionalized aggression by the state is a far bigger threat than random, isolated, ad hoc acts of private crime by private criminals. Stephan Kinsella (4:01): The minarchists and classical liberals recognize the danger of public aggression, which is why they want to create a state, but they want to put limits on it, like in a constitution. So they recognize how dangerous it is, so they want to put limits on it, but they basically recognize the state as a possible source of violation of rights. So we have to identify the state, and we have an analysis of the state. I think that analysis always comes with this class analysis, like Hoppe does, and even Marx does to some extent, but he does it in a different way. But it's basically the rule of the majority by a minority. Nick Sinard (4:54): Right, that's why they do it, so that it's like a pyramid of power, so that, you know, the five percent or the two percent or the one percent or even the ten percent can exploit the other 90 or 99 percent. Stephan Kinsella (5:06): Right, so they can live high on the hog while the masses are relatively impoverished. So to succeed, I think Hoppe goes into this in his Banking Nation States great article. They have to basically persuade the population to go along with it by a variety of techniques: propaganda, coercion, tradition, appeals to authority, and with democracy, by getting everyone to falsely believe that they're part of the state. And, you know, so many people have relatives, or they themselves work for the state, because the government is so large now. The federal government, for example, so everyone is, you know, their kids are going to public schools, and we drive on public roads, so everyone starts to have this kind of interest in the state, so they're reluctant to challenge it. But still, the state itself has to be a minority. So if you broaden the definition of what's the state so large that it includes Google and Facebook, and even broader, any corporation, because no one has totally clean hands, I suppose, and even broader than that, every—not only every human being that's an employee of the state, which is, I don't know, what, 15, 20, 30 percent of the population—but people that are being paid by the state, because what's the difference, economically and politically, whether you pay someone a salary or you have a defense contractor that you're paying, or a welfare recipient who's getting money, or private jails, you know? Stephan Kinsella (6:08): So I guess these are all part of the state. So if you're going to have such a loose standard of conceptual connection or causation that Google and Facebook are part of the state, then basically we're all part of the state, which is exactly the lie that the state tells. They tell us this so you are part of the government, that's why you can't complain about it. You have the right to vote, so you are the government, right? So you can't complain if you don't get the results you don't like. So you have these anti-statists, so-called, doing the same thing that the statists do. They're all saying we're all part of the state, which is ridiculous. Nick Sinard (7:07): Oh, yeah. Stephan Kinsella: But then you have to ask, okay, so why are these libertarians,

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 353. Some twitter users were confused about IP and whether stealing someone's document from their safe implied damages greater than stealing a blank document, and whether this difference implied IP, etc. So I did an impromptu zoom and a few people joined to ask questions about this and other matters. Unpolished. Enjoy. https://youtu.be/NzXyZb9XaR4

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 351. I was a guest host for the Tom Woods Show, Ep. 1941 (released July 29, 2021) while he is out sick. Shownotes: Guest host Stephan Kinsella talks to Shane Hazel about his growing awareness of liberty and Austrian economics while in the Marines in Iraq, his run for Senate on the Libertarian ticket in 2020 in Georgia and his role as “spoiler,” his future plans to run for Governor of Georgia, and his proposals to fix the broken criminal justice system. Additional shownotes: Podcast: RADICAL with Shane Hazel  Twitter: https://twitter.com/ShaneTHazel 11 questions for Georgia U.S. Senate candidate Shane Hazel PEAKd — video & live-streaming platform on HIVE https://youtu.be/zsKZO5VxZfw

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 350. While at FreedomFest 2021, Gene Epstein (of SOHO Forum) and I discussed intellectual property and other libertarian matters on the Pauls to the Wall podcast. Recorded July 23, 2021; released July 25, 2021.

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 349. Streamed live on Jul 13, 2021. Stephan and Joshua Smith sit down to talk Intellectual Property, Hans Herman Hoppe, and heavyweight debates (on "heavyweight", see tweet posted below). (Afterhours chat here: KOL462 | CouchStreams After Hours on Break the Cycle with Joshua Smith (2021)) Grok shownotes and Youtube transcript below. https://youtu.be/w9t-HD5J2xY Excerpt: Stephan on the NAP https://youtu.be/kbW57Ca9kNk Join the patreon at https://patreon.com/breakthecyclejs Join Subscribestar at https://Subscribestar.com/breakthecyc... Tips at https://paypal.me/JoshuaSmithChair2020 available on all of your favorite podcast apps. https://toplobsta.com for dope gear. https://lorenzotti.coffee for delicious Italian coffee thank you to Whiskey Grenade for the great jams. Support the stream: https://streamlabs.com/fightthedespots Discussed: Disinvited From Cato Twitter post below: I think you should realize you are talking to a heavyweight and should be grateful I am devoting a few minutes to you, and take advantage of it, and be respectful and not a punk. That's what I think. — Stephan Kinsella (@NSKinsella) September 9, 2020 GROK SHOWNOTES Show Notes for KOL349 | CouchStreams Ep. 58 with Joshua Smith Episode Overview: In this episode of Break the Cycle (originally aired on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/live/w9t-HD5J2xY), host Joshua Smith interviews Stephan Kinsella, a former Ludwig von Mises Institute scholar, founder of the Center for the Study of Innovative Freedom, and author of Against Intellectual Property. The discussion covers Kinsella’s journey to libertarianism, his staunch opposition to intellectual property (IP), the impact of patent laws on industries like pharmaceuticals, and his thoughts on emerging libertarian trends like post-libertarianism and Hans-Hermann Hoppe’s philosophy. The episode is packed with insights into libertarian theory, legal systems, and practical implications of IP laws, interspersed with lively audience engagement via super chats. Segment 1: Introduction and Kinsella’s Background (0:00–14:56) 0:03–1:06: Intro music and Joshua Smith’s opening remarks, welcoming listeners to the show. 1:06–2:28: Smith introduces the episode, plugs sponsors (lorenzotti.coffee, toplobsta.com, anthemplanning.com), and expresses excitement about the guest. 2:28–3:29: Smith introduces Stephan Kinsella, highlighting his Mises Institute background, founding of the Center for the Study of Innovative Freedom, and his book Against Intellectual Property. Kinsella confirms he’s COVID-free after contracting it at Porcfest. 3:29–6:09: Kinsella shares his journey from electrical engineering at LSU to becoming a patent lawyer and anarcho-capitalist. He explains how his interest in libertarianism developed in high school, complemented by his legal training, particularly in Louisiana’s unique Roman law-influenced system. 6:09–9:02: Discussion shifts to Louisiana’s distinct legal system, rooted in French and Spanish civil law, contrasting with common law systems elsewhere in the U.S. Kinsella notes its influence on his libertarian legal scholarship. 9:02–14:56: Smith recounts his experiences running for Libertarian Party chair and his shift to a more confrontational online presence. Kinsella discusses his own brash online style, emphasizing bluntness for efficiency and dismissing insincere arguments. Segment 2: Intellectual Property and Copyright Issues (14:56–29:03) 14:56–18:05: Kinsella outlines his core argument against IP: it violates libertarian principles by granting others control over your property without consent, akin to a non-consensual negative easement. He compares this to physical trespass or battery. 18:05–21:00: He elaborates on the harms of IP, including how copyright stifles free speech and patents hinder innovation, impoverishing society by slowing technological progress. 21:00–23:37: Smith brings up pharmaceutical patents, and Kinsella critiques the “unholy alliance” of patents, FDA regulations, and tort systems that inflate drug costs and prioritize artificial drugs over natural remedies. He references Dr. David Martin’s work on coronavirus patents, suggesting profit motives intertwine with government mandates. 23:37–26:13: Super chat questions touch on vaccine magnetism (a jest) and patent waivers for COVID vaccines. Kinsella debunks the notion of China “stealing” U.S. IP and questions the timeline of vaccine patents, noting patents typically take years to issue. 26:13–29:03: Discussion of Martin Shkreli’s case, where Kinsella clarifies it was an FDA-granted monopoly, not a patent, that allowed price gouging. He notes Shkreli’s actions exposed systemic flaws, though he was vilified for it. Segment 3: Open Source, Right to Repair, and Post-Libertarianism (29:03–43:56) 29:03–32:02: Kinsella addresses open-source software as a counterexample to claims that copyright is necessary for profit, but critiques “copyleft” licenses that rely on copyright to enforce restrictions. He prefers unrestricted sharing (e.g., CC0 licenses). 32:02–35:07: A super chat on “right to repair” prompts Kinsella to criticize it as a band-aid for copyright’s flaws. He opposes forcing manufacturers to reveal proprietary information but supports abolishing copyright to enable third-party repairs naturally. 35:07–36:00: A humorous super chat about “IP Freely” is acknowledged as a joke, referencing a comedic author pseudonym. 36:00–40:05: Smith raises “post-libertarianism,” a trend questioning the non-aggression principle (NAP). Kinsella defends the NAP as a shorthand for property rules, arguing that critics either misunderstand it or favor aggression, aligning with statism. 40:05–43:56: A super chat asks about resisting government overreach. Kinsella views this as a strategic issue, doubting isolated acts of defiance will dismantle the state. He advocates for broader cultural shifts toward liberty. Segment 4: Hoppe’s Popularity and Libertarian Theory (43:56–59:00) 43:56–47:01: A super chat prompts discussion of Hans-Hermann Hoppe’s rising popularity. Kinsella finds the “memeification” of Hoppe amusing but attributes it to his intriguing personality and ideas, despite smear campaigns labeling him a monarchist or fascist. 47:01–50:08: Kinsella explains Hoppe’s argumentation ethics, which argues that peaceful discourse presupposes libertarian principles like self-ownership and property rights. Any ethic violating peace contradicts the context of civilized argument. 50:08–54:04: Addressing Hoppe’s alleged monarchism, Kinsella clarifies Hoppe is an anarchist, not a monarchist. Hoppe argues monarchy can be better than democracy in some respects (e.g., long-term incentives vs. short-term populism), but neither is ideal compared to anarchy. 54:04–59:00: Kinsella shares his toughest debates (none on IP, but challenging discussions on argumentation ethics) and critiques debate formats. A super chat about protecting artwork leads Kinsella to argue copying isn’t theft; only dishonesty (e.g., claiming authorship) warrants stigma. Segment 5: Brazilian Bucket Challenge and Future Projects (59:00–1:07:10) 59:00–1:00:39: A super chat about the “Brazilian Bucket Challenge” reveals it as a meme to encourage reading Hoppe and Mises by claiming hidden “bucket” references. Kinsella shares his participation, initially skeptical but amused. 1:00:39–1:02:14: Kinsella recommends Rothbard’s Ethics of Liberty, Economic Controversies, and The Free Market Reader for libertarian newcomers, praising their clarity and insight. 1:02:14–1:04:05: Kinsella outlines future projects: an anthology of anarchist essays, a curated collection of his writings (Law in a Libertarian World), and a new IP book, Copy This Book. He notes his semi-retirement, allowing more time for libertarian work. 1:04:05–1:07:10: Smith closes by thanking Kinsella, plugging sponsors, and promoting upcoming episodes with Tom Woods, Brad Palumbo, and Austin Peterson. He encourages support via super chats and memberships for exclusive streams. 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Kinsella on Liberty Podcast, Episode 348. I sat down with my friend Aaron Voisine, of BRD (formerly Breadwallet), to discuss how the average worker/saver would invest and save in a Bitcoin world. Would they hold some stocks? Real estate? Bonds? Or would they keep close to 100% of their savings in cash, as many bitcoiners seem to assume? And related issues. I doubt people would keep most of their savings in cash since they would chase higher returns and also diversify away from some risks unique to monetary assets. Voisine dissents. I have questions, not answers, while Voisine thinks he has answers. Kinsella, Aaron Graham, Aaron Voisine, Juan Carpio, at Bitcoin 2021, Miami Kinsella, Aaron Lasher, Aaron Voisine, Aaron Graham, Juan Carpio, chilling during Bitcoin 2021, Miami https://youtu.be/g24jBL81vQ8