

Unemployed & Afraid
Kim Kerton
A business podcast for the brave self-employed.
Growing your own business can be one of the most gratifying, wonderful, life-changing experiences around. It’s also scary as hell. This is a weekly podcast for the ones who have made the brave decision to employ themselves anyway.
We're for the full gamut of business experience - from Solopreneurs, Side-hustlers, Micro-business, Small Business, Medium business, Independent, VC backed, Bootstrapped and more - here for the real stories and priceless insights of it all, well beyond the PR headlines.
Join fellow business-builder and side-hustler Kim Kerton as she dives into the realities of starting something from scratch, helping you feel less alone in the lows and reminding you of the highs that make it all worthwhile. Hear real talk and raw feels from people right in the thick of it and feel seen as you listen.
Small business is tough - all business is tough - it will be one of the most intense things you'll ever do but it will also be the most impactful experience you can imagine. So surround yourself with a community of business owners willing to share with you their learnings, from those a few steps ahead, to many business milestones ahead, and even those just behind, and feel supported to build the business of your unique dreams.
This is a podcast built to support you to build your own small business, to tackle the statistics and keep more of us in business for ourselves. To say thanks, you can support this independent podcast and small business by shouting your host a cuppa at buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpod
Get in touch at unemployedandafraid.com.au to be part of the show or to become a sponsor (we would love the support!).
Connect on the socials @unemployedandafraid on IG and @unemployedandafraidpod on TikTok
Growing your own business can be one of the most gratifying, wonderful, life-changing experiences around. It’s also scary as hell. This is a weekly podcast for the ones who have made the brave decision to employ themselves anyway.
We're for the full gamut of business experience - from Solopreneurs, Side-hustlers, Micro-business, Small Business, Medium business, Independent, VC backed, Bootstrapped and more - here for the real stories and priceless insights of it all, well beyond the PR headlines.
Join fellow business-builder and side-hustler Kim Kerton as she dives into the realities of starting something from scratch, helping you feel less alone in the lows and reminding you of the highs that make it all worthwhile. Hear real talk and raw feels from people right in the thick of it and feel seen as you listen.
Small business is tough - all business is tough - it will be one of the most intense things you'll ever do but it will also be the most impactful experience you can imagine. So surround yourself with a community of business owners willing to share with you their learnings, from those a few steps ahead, to many business milestones ahead, and even those just behind, and feel supported to build the business of your unique dreams.
This is a podcast built to support you to build your own small business, to tackle the statistics and keep more of us in business for ourselves. To say thanks, you can support this independent podcast and small business by shouting your host a cuppa at buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpod
Get in touch at unemployedandafraid.com.au to be part of the show or to become a sponsor (we would love the support!).
Connect on the socials @unemployedandafraid on IG and @unemployedandafraidpod on TikTok
Episodes
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Apr 3, 2022 • 58min
“The fear of remaining where I was, was greater than the fear of taking that risk and making the leap,” Potter, Kara Leigh Ford
Today I’m chatting with Kara Leigh Ford, a brilliant Potter and now author, based near Bath in the picturesque South-West of England. What can you expect from today’s chat, well, If you have a calling for creative and artistic creation you will learn about how you don’t need to have it all figured out, or have the “right” credentials to be a creative in business – you can learn, perfect, and go from there – all you have to do is believe in yourself. In her own words, Kara makes pots, talks about pots, teaches others about pots, and shares her love of pottery with the world. Her work is stocked in shops and galleries all over the globe, and it is stunning! Kara has also created the Pottery Club, where she teaches and supports other potters on the art and the business of clay, AND she has just written her first book Pottery for Beginners. Visit Kara’s website, where you can find the links to the Pottery Club and her wonderful book Follow her on Instagram and YouTube And here is the link to her wonderful life coach Sal, who we chat about in the episode And don’t forget to follow Unemployed & Afraid on IG and LinkedIn Join our Facebook Group You can reach your host on email via kim@unemployedandafraid.com.au On IG and on LinkedInSupport the show by shouting me a cuppa (or 2): https://www.buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 27, 2022 • 47min
"It's constant learning, constant trying, constant frustration, But it's balanced with success and with recognition," Yogi Peace Club Founder, Emma Barr
I’m joined today by passionate yogi, Emma Barr, founder of Yogi Peace Club, to talk about: the ins and outs of starting a fashion brand from the ground up the importance of believing in your product and making it sustainable, in growth as well as for the planet. In 2014, Em left a family trip to Bali inspired to create a brand that invoked some of the most powerful aspects of yoga practice, connection, community and inclusion. That brand became Yogi Peace Club, designed to bring out the inner yogi in everyone. Since then, Yogi Peace Club has been worn, and the beautiful mats practiced on, by experienced and new lovers of yoga all around the world, is voted by Vogue as one of Australia’s best active wear brands, featured in Elle magazine, WellBeing, Women’s Health and regularly in Yoga Journal. She has such an amazing energy and passion for life, and of course for her brand, and just so much wisdom to generously share. If you’re not a yoga lover already you just might be after this, at the very least I think you might be keen to don a pair of Emma’s amazing creations and a big dose of her get it done and love what you do vibe. Check out the Yogi Peace Club Website And follow Yogi peace Club on Insta And don’t forget to follow Unemployed & Afraid on IG and LinkedIn Join our Facebook Group You can reach your host on email via kim@unemployedandafraid.com.au On IG and on LinkedInSupport the show by shouting me a cuppa (or 2): https://www.buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 20, 2022 • 37min
“You have to clean out the Garage before you can get something new,” Career Sabbaticalist, Kimberly Turner Eng
Call it algorithm bias, but in the world of social media some people seem meant to show up in your feed, today’s guest is a perfect example. You’ll hear all about it in the episode, but in short, I connected with Kimberley Turner Eng, my guest for today’s episode, via a LinkedIn update she shared that went viral. In it, she talked about taking a break from her long career with Nike and Amazon to reset. This makes today’s episode is a little different, as I’m chatting with Kimberly while she’s on said career sabbatical - she hasn’t started a business, or made any firm moves to retrain in a new field, she’s simply taking a break from her career to clear her head and realign with her values – which is the place I was in through early 2020. Kimberly shares the story of how she came to this decision, how she planned for it, and what it’s been like to proudly own her status of “on a break” So, if you’re craving some space to think, want to really get to know yourself, and think taking a pause might be just what you need - you’ll really love this chat! Connect with Kimberly on LinkedIn Read more about her story on Business Insider And don’t forget to follow Unemployed & Afraid on IG and LinkedIn Join our Facebook Group You can reach your host on email via kim@unemployedandafraid.com.au On IG and on LinkedInSupport the show by shouting me a cuppa (or 2): https://www.buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 13, 2022 • 49min
“Drawing on the experience that you have, you'll surprise yourself, how well you can do by just simply knowing what's worked for you in your corporate career and then applying that into your own business,” Restaurateur, Peter Burr
My chat today is with a fabulous gent named Peter Burr, who has spent most of his career as a top Marketing Exec for major Telco’s and IT, facing three redundancies over this time (yes, 3!!) Peter decided to re-focus his approach to his marketing career, changing how he works to support his vision for creating an amazing and highly awarded destination restaurant, Potager, in Carool northern NSW. Peter and I chatted in early 2022, and this episode is being released shortly after the devastating floods in NSW and QLD, luckily Peter’s restaurant was spared and he’s able to continue operating and providing employment for his team members in the area, of course many others weren’t - and rebuilding the entire area will take a long time after the headlines have disappeared, if you’re in a position to donate please consider heading to givit.org.au to get your support directly into the hands that need it. I hope you enjoy this episode as much as I’ve enjoyed creating it for you, and if you do, please consider heading to Apple or Spotify and leaving a review – it will go such a long way in helping me grow this podcast and its community. Follow Potager on Instagram (warning, you will get hungry!) And check out the Potager website here on IG and LinkedIn And don’t forget to follow Unemployed & Afraid on IG and LinkedIn Join our Facebook Group You can reach your host on email via kim@unemployedandafraid.com.au On IG and on LinkedInSupport the show by shouting me a cuppa (or 2): https://www.buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 6, 2022 • 46min
“If we’re curious, and we're willing to learn and we're resilient - you can achieve anything,” CEO & Creative Director of YCL Jewels Fabienne Costa
My guest today is the fabulous Fabienne Costa, who is a self-taught jeweller and designer of the beautiful jewellery brand YCL Jewels. Have you ever found yourself admiring the success of an artist, designer or businessperson and thinking, you know what, I reckon I might be able to do what they do… maybe it wasn’t even a conscious thought, but more of a sense that you could do it if you tried? Well imagine just jumping two feet in and going for it. Deciding to become the very thing you admired – by just trying, stumbling, failing, succeeding and working it out as you go. Inspiring hey? The fabulous Fabienne did just that. Fabienne has so many diamonds of advice in her story, pun intended, so if you’re on the edge thinking about going for the thing you think you might want, I hope that by the end of this episode you’re ready to jump in. Scroll the gorgeous YCL Jewels insta feed here Shop YCL Jewels online here And connect with Fabienne’s insta here And don’t forget to follow Unemployed & Afraid on IG and LinkedIn Join our Facebook Group You can reach your host on email via kim@unemployedandafraid.com.au On IG and on LinkedInSupport the show by shouting me a cuppa (or 2): https://www.buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 27, 2022 • 47min
"When we can look at the pursuit of something new, and what we achieve in that pursuit, not as the goal but the pursuit itself as being the thing of value, something magical happens," Adaptability Coach and Mentor Stephen Gibb
This guest has a lot of experience in hitting the pause button on a career. In this chat he’s honest and brilliantly vulnerable about the challenges of recognising what’s really happening for yourself, and generous about sharing what he’s learnt with the world. Stephen Gibb is an Adaptability Coach, and founder of the coaching and mentoring offering Adaptable Edge. In his own words, Stephen spent 15 years working for the world's largest software companies and changed jobs and employers with unusual regularity, pursuing the extrinsic motivation of money and prestige above all else – an honest take on what many experience on a corporate career journey After a period of intense self-reflection, Adaptable Edge was born created to show people how to look beyond fear, broaden their perspective, explore possibilities, and achieve their goals with freedom and ease Visit Stephen’s website for Adaptable Edge Connect with Stephen on LinkedIn The book we chatted about is called Stealing Fire by Steven Kotler & Jamie Wheal And Wade Kingsley who we mention is from The Ideas Business And don’t forget to follow Unemployed & Afraid on IG and LinkedIn Join our Facebook Group You can reach your host on email via kim@unemployedandafraid.com.au On IG and on LinkedInSupport the show by shouting me a cuppa (or 2): https://www.buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 20, 2022 • 46min
“When you are starting out and stepping away from that corporate sector and you soon realize that there's just so many ways to move forward,” Whale Song Shack Creator and Artist Ingrid Daniell
Today’s guest is the multi-passionate Ingrid Daniell, who joins us with two inspiring business feathers currently in her cap. Ingrid shares the importance of connecting to what brings you home to yourself, and why it matters to collaborate and create authentically – she’s a gem. An incredible artist with exhibitions and gallery representation in her hometown of Geelong, in Sydney and New York. Through her painting, she identifies the human and instinctive need to connect to the land, to the ocean, to a natural environment and the landscapes that make up our identity from the past, present and future - Ingrid uses colour and a mix of textures and sheer to create magical, emotional landscapes. That’s feather one. For feather two, Ingrid’s deep connection to the ocean led her to create of one of Australia’s most coveted and admired short stays, Whale Song Shack. Positioned on the edge of the Tasman Sea in Falmouth, a tiny town on Tasmania’s East Coast, Whale Song Shack is simply immersive. Private, grounding, and connected to every aspect of its raw and beautiful natural environment – it’s like nowhere else. Check out her amazing art at ingriddaniell.com Follow her on insta @ingriddaniell Fall in love with Whale Song Shack on insta @whalesongshack And discover more at whalesongshack.com And don’t forget to follow Unemployed & Afraid on IG and LinkedIn Join our Facebook Group You can reach your host on email via kim@unemployedandafraid.com.au On IG and on LinkedInSupport the show by shouting me a cuppa (or 2): https://www.buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 13, 2022 • 47min
“I definitely had a lot of imposter syndrome early on, even in my Instagram bio, for years after I started getting photography work I would still only ever have food blogger in my bio!” Photographer and Stylist, Dearna Bond
Dearna Bond is a photographer and stylist that I’m a huge fan of, it’s pretty hard not to be, her approach to getting started and learning skills as you go, trusting the process, and never stopping that learning will leave you inspired to lean into whatever your creative heart desires. Dearna’s images take you somewhere magical, she creates beautiful scenes that evoke a mood and tell a story like no other, and honestly her food photography is off the charts amazing. She has created for some incredible brands, including Connoisseur ice-cream, Lark Whisky, Halo top, Loving Earth, Royal Doulton, and for iconic accommodations such as Whale Song Shack and Captains Rest. Dearna’s career as a photographer happened almost by accident, with a beginning in food blogging and the camera set to auto, wow is the world glad she kept going! Scroll her beautiful Instagram page @dearnabond and her website dearnabond.com And don’t forget to follow Unemployed & Afraid on IG and LinkedIn Join our Facebook Group You can reach your host on email via kim@unemployedandafraid.com.au On IG and on LinkedInSupport the show by shouting me a cuppa (or 2): https://www.buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 6, 2022 • 57min
“I did absolutely everything and just sat on it for ages and I was like, when's gonna be the right time? which, you know what? There isn't a right time,”Perfectly Queer Founder and Entertainer, Aza/Della Katessen
My guest today is a bit of a self-starter powerhouse. Aza works full-time, but could never quite scratch the itch for entertainment that he developed through a long career in radio – that was until he found the world of Drag as Della Katessen - which has now led to a second side-hustle, a talent management company dedicated to all the wonderful queer talent of Melbourne. Trigger warning: we swear a bit in this episode, and touch on the topic of homophobia and homophobic slurs. Mainly we talk about following your niggles of interest, valuing yourself, being brave enough to jump in when opportunity presents itself. Support Perfectly Queer and get booking at perfectlyqueer.com.au and @perfectly.queer.talent on Insta Connect with Della on insta @dellakatessen and grab some fabulous merch at dellaxo.com with your special discount code TAKE15 And don’t forget to follow Unemployed & Afraid on IG and LinkedIn Join our Facebook Group You can reach your host on email via kim@unemployedandafraid.com.au On IG and on LinkedInSupport the show by shouting me a cuppa (or 2): https://www.buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 30, 2022 • 52min
“I just cannot describe the feeling of finally deciding to go out on your own and do something, I had no idea that I would one day be selling fish homewares!”Bobby Seaford & Skipjack Maps Co-Founder Skye Hamilton
Today’s guest is the lovely Skye Hamilton, co-founder and creative director of Bobby Seaford, which is the home of Australia’s saltiest homewares, and Skipjack Maps, the purveyors of hydrographic maps carefully crafted to inspire coastal escapades. Skye has been through a number of restarts in her life and career to be the person we meet today, through chronic health challenges, motherhood and of course that lovely little pandemic we’re all so fond of. *Trigger warning: we chat through her experience with chronic health conditions including Type 1 Diabetes, Migraines and Mental-health challenges. She’s a woman who continues to craft a life that’s more aligned with health needs, her family’s happiness (did I mention that she co-founded Bobby Seaford and Skipjack Maps with her partner Nic?) and that allows her to tap into her impressive creativity. I learnt so much from Skye and I know you will too. Check out Bobby Seaford and Skipjack Maps on Instagram @bobbyseaford and @skipjackmaps And purchase this amazing work online at bobbyseaford.com And don’t forget to follow Unemployed & Afraid on IG and LinkedIn Join our Facebook Group You can reach your host on email via kim@unemployedandafraid.com.au On IG and on LinkedInSupport the show by shouting me a cuppa (or 2): https://www.buymeacoffee.com/unemployedpodSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


