

THINNING OF THE VEIL
Tia Smith
Prophets past and present have encouraged us to seek to understand how to part the veil between heaven and earth. This podcast discusses the doctrines, principles and patterns of how the the thinning of the veil occurs when we are engaged in the gathering of Israel. Testimonies of these greater manifestations will also be shared in the hopes that we all may have the heavens opened to us in greater degrees.
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Jan 15, 2026 • 42min
NAVIGATING THE BILLIONGRAVES APP
"BillionGraves is the world's largest resource for searchable GPS cemetery data". From anywhere in the world, people can locate a cemetery, take a picture, and upload that information into world wide data base. When seeking to find ancestors, it is a helpful tool, as sometimes cemetery headstones are the only recorded evidences that someone lived. However, the work must be done, cemeteries must be visited, in order for these long lost relatives to be found. Colette, goes over this very valuable app, that she uses every time she goes on vacation. It has led to many miracles for her as she seeks to reunite families around the world. This episode teaches how to use the app effectively and efficiently so that you can hit the ground running when finding an out of the way, obscure cemetery. YouTube: Navigating the BillionGraves App Video: https://youtu.be/44QII9qHEAc YouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ FamilySearch: https://www.familysearch.org/BillionGraves Website: https://billiongraves.com/BillionGraves App: https://billiongraves.com/get-the-appSUPPORT THE SHOW:Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation": https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilSupport the show

Jan 14, 2026 • 15min
"DON'T PRAY FOR ME, PRAY FOR MY BROTHER"
President Joseph F. Smith said, "I believe we move and have our being in the presence of heavenly messengers and of heavenly beings... I claim that we live in their presence, they see us, they are solicitous for our welfare, they love us now more than ever. For now they see the dangers that beset us; they can comprehend better than ever before, the weaknesses that are liable to mislead us into dark and forbidden paths. They see the temptations and evils that beset us in life and the proneness of mortal beings to yield to temptation and wrong doing; hence their solicitude for us and their love for us and their desire for our well being must be greater than that which we feel for ourselves.” When we participate in the Gathering of Israel sometimes we are only focused on the blessings and opportunities that we are offering to our loved ones on the other side of the veil. However, there is also help coming from the other side of the veil on our behalf, to help us navigate this mortal existence. Nathan Sizemore had a Thinning of the Veil experience in a celestial room where a long since passed friend, urged him to pray and help his brother on this side of the veil who is facing addiction, and other extreme challenges. His testimony reminds us that we cannot be saved without those on the other side of the veil, and they also cannot be saved without our sacrificial efforts to bring them to Christ through covenantal relationship. The help we receive from those on the other side of the veil is yet more evidence that we have a loving Heavenly Father who has a mighty plan to help all of His children on either side of the veil. YouTube: Don't Pray for Me, Pray for My Brother " Video: https://youtu.be/Gm6U4didhbUVisited By My Children on the Other Side of the Veil Video: https://youtu.be/6eYXEqKOgZsYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ SUPPORT THE SHOW: Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation": https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilSupport the show

Jan 13, 2026 • 1h 11min
A GLIMPSE INTO THE SPIRIT WORLD: Conversation with Michael Solesbee
President Brigham Young taught that the Spirit World is on this earth, around us. Many individuals through the generations have seen into the spirit world, most notably, President Joseph F. Smith, who helped further our understanding of the work that those on the other side of the veil are involved in. Every day members can also get glimpses from time to time about the what is to follow our mortal experience. Michael Solesbee was blessed to see a glimpse into the sacred beyond. He was taught things about the gathering of Israel and given a forewarning into what is near future held for him and his wife. He testifies that the Spirit world and the plan of salvation are real, and that the work of the Gathering is progressing on the other side of the veil.YouTube: A Glimpse into the Spirit World Video: https://youtu.be/yuV6hO1xQnoYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ SUPPORT THE SHOW: Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation": https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilSupport the show

Jan 9, 2026 • 44min
ETERNAL LIFE & CELESTIAL MARRIAGE: Bruce R. McConkie, BYUI, Nov. 1984
Eternal Life according to God's definition is to live as He lives. One of the main attributes about God's life is that He lives in a Family Unit. He, along with our Heavenly Mother, live in the Patriarchal order within the New and Everlasting Covenant of Marriage. Within this eternal union, Father and Mother continue the family unit for eternity, offering their own offspring the chance to become as They are. Bruce R. McConkie, testifies of this beautiful doctrine and teaches that for us to become as They are, we must enter in to the same covenants that we might also receive eternal life with Them in the mansions above. This talk was originally given on November 6, 1984 at a BYUI Devotional. YouTube Eternal Life and Celestial Marriage Video Link: https://youtu.be/y1rmegj9kOoYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQWebsite: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation": https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilCITATIONS:Bruce R. McConkie, "Eternal Life and Celestial Marriage", BYUI Devotional, Nov. 1984: https://www.byui.edu/speeches/weekly-devotionals/eternal-life-and-celestial-marriageSupport the show

Jan 8, 2026 • 17min
BUILDING THE GLOBAL TREE WITH THE TOGETHER APP
FamilySearch has implemented modern tools like AI, to help families all around the world, past and present, come together. A helpful function within the Together App has provided a way to connect records available in different countries to the tree in a remarkable simple, fast, easy way. Anyone can help with expanding the global tree. Colette instructs how to navigate this newer function on a desk top computer in this episode. The Lord's work truly expands beyond boundaries and time and He has inspired these newer technologies to help Him in His work. It is through small and simple things and ordinary people that this mighty work rolls on.YouTube: Building the Global Tree with the Together App Video: https://youtu.be/P6jLHZNPzDI YouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ FamilySearch: https://www.familysearch.org/SUPPORT THE SHOW:Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation": https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilSupport the show

Jan 7, 2026 • 1h 8min
IMMORTALITY AND ETERNAL LIVES
In one of the great revelatory experiences of Moses, he was taught an essential truth and confirming identity of God's sons and daughters. "For behold, this is my work and my glory, to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man." (Moses 1:39) This profound statement of truth should provide pause in contemplating one's own mortality, future ordinations, and the interconnectedness of the work of the Gathering of Israel. What exactly is immortality and eternal life? How does eternal life progress to the plurality of eternal lives? Everything in the temple points us to the glory and work of our Heavenly Father and Savior, Jesus Christ. As we come to know Them through saving Their other sons and daughters, we gain an advantage in the Resurrection, grown in Their power and glory, and most importantly become like Them in every sense of the word. YouTube: Immortality and Eternal Lives Video: https://youtu.be/KkHzf5QVgfsYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ SUPPORT THE SHOW: Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation": https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilCITATIONS:Moses 1:39, Alma 11:44, 1 Corinthians 15:40–42, 2 Corinthians 3:18Joseph Smith, Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Joseph Smith [2007], 268)Topics & Questions, “Eternal Life”, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day SaintsJoseph B. Worthlin, “What is the Difference between Immortality & Eternal Life, Ensign, 2006Theodore M. Burton, “Salvation and Exaltation, April 1972Doctrines of the Gospel Teacher Manual, Chapter 32:The Resurrection and JudgementDoctrines of the Gospel Teacher Manual, Chapter 32:The Resurrection and JudgementNew Testament Study Guide for Home-Study Seminary Students, Unit 23, Day 2: 1 Corinthians 15:30–16:24D&C 93:36, D&C 29:12, D&C 88:67-68, D&C 76:53-56, 58, Doctrines of Salvation, comp. Bruce R. McConkie, 3 vols. [1954–56], 2:286–87)John 17:1-4, D&C 132:22-24Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, sel. Joseph Fielding Smith, Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1938, pp. 346–47Nicholas J. Frederick, “Of 'Life Eternal" and 'Eternal Lives': Joseph Smith's Engagement with the Gospel of John,” in Approaching Antiquity: Joseph Smith and the Ancient World, edited by Lincoln H. Blumell, Matthew J. Grey, and Andrew H. Hedges (Provo, UT: Religious Studies Center; Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 2015), 194–228.Joseph F. Smith, Answers to Gospel Questions, 4:197. See also Orson Pratt, The Seer, 37.D&C 131:1-4Robert D. Hales, “Eternal Life—to Know Our Heavenly Father and His Son, Jesus Christ”, Oct. 2014Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, sel. Joseph Fielding Smith [1976], 345–46).3 Nephi 12:48Russell M. Nelson, “Salvation and Exaltation”, April 2008Brigham Young, Discourses of Brigham Young, selected and arranged by John A. Widtsoe [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1954], 152. JD 19:50)Support the show

Jan 6, 2026 • 1h
"...THEY SHALL REPAIR THE WASTE CITIES": Interview with Colette Hokanson
"And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations." (Isaiah 61:4). Colette flew across the globe to Krakow, Poland, based on a revelatory dream. She knew the Lord had sent her there to reunite families who had been forgotten. She did not know what amazing miracles and manifestations that would follow this thinning of the veil experience, but she trusted in the Lord. The prophecy in Isaiah was literally being fulfilled in a some small way as she began the seemingly impossible task of repairing "old waste cities", using her family history skills, following the promptings of the Spirit and having faith in those assurances. Colette through this miraculous undertaking proclaimed liberty to the captives, planted many trees of righteousness, and as Isaiah describes, became a "vinedresser" of the generations.Jacobus Palka: KCL3-D5T (Family Search Number): https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/KCL3-D5TYouTube: "...They shall Repair the Waste Cities: Video: https://youtu.be/6bLMpNpaAS8YouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ SUPPORT THE SHOW: Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation": https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilSupport the show

Dec 26, 2025 • 23min
TAKING UPON US THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST: Dallin H. Oaks, Apr. 1985
Every Sabbath day countless members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day partake in a sacred ordinance. In the sacrament promises are made and blessings are extended. One of the promises that we weekly agree to is that we are willing to take upon us the name of Jesus Christ. To keep a covenant you have to understand it in its fullness. In this talk given by then Elder Dallin H. Oaks, in April of 1985, he masterfully teaches about this most important eternal doctrine. This promise does not just stop at our meetinghouse sacrament tables, but extends through the temple, into eternity. When we keep this covenant the blessings are incomprehensible and salvific. YouTube Taking Upon us the Name of Jesus Christ Video Link: https://youtu.be/DC_yhKFuMnsYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQWebsite: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation": https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilCITATIONS:Dallin H. Oaks, "Taking Upon Us the Name of Jesus Christ", April 1985: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1985/04/taking-upon-us-the-name-of-jesus-christ?lang=engSupport the show

Dec 24, 2025 • 17min
"I HAD A DREAM IN WHICH I SAW MY FATHER...": Reyna I. Aburto, Oct. 2019
Sister Reyna Aburto, speaking to temple presidents and matrons on Oct. 17, 2019, testified of the miracles and thinning of the veil experiences that brought her family back together eternally. She relates that in the temple she found healing for herself and her family. The Lord allowed her and her mother to have a glimpse of their husband/father on the other side of the veil, answering fervent prayers on how to make their family whole after a very complicated family life. Jesus Christ is the Master Healer who heals us as we heal the generations in His holy house.YouTube I Had a Dream in Which I Saw My Father Video: https://youtu.be/FUNlm61AQ9sYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@thinningoftheveilWebsite: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation": https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilCITATIONS:Reyna I. Aburto, "Miracles of Healing Through Temple Ordinances", Liahona, November 3, 2021: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/inspiration/miracles-of-healing-through-temple-ordinances?lang=engSupport the show

Dec 24, 2025 • 1h 6min
SACRED GATHERING NAMES OF JESUS CHRIST
Every Sunday, members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints gather to partake of the sacred emblems of the Sacrament. In that holy ordinance we covenant that we are willing to take upon ourselves of the name of the Savior. What does this mean? How do we keep this weekly covenant if we do not yet fully understand what it means. The Savior is referred to by many names. In this episode we will study some of the "Gathering" names of the Jesus Christ. As we start to understand the meaning of each name, we can greater understand the powers associated with this sacred covenant. As President Dallin H. Oaks teaches, the sacrament leads us to the temple as we serve in our roles as Gatherers emulating the patterns of Jesus Christ. The blessings and powers that follow those who willingly act as the Savior would in gathering scattered Israel, can scarcely comprehend the blessings that can be claimed through that sanctifying service. YouTube: Sacred Gathering Names of the Savior Video: https://youtu.be/pUwZFF8AMdgYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ SUPPORT THE SHOW: Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation": https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilCITATIONS:MORONI 4:3Dallin H. Oaks, “Taking upon Us the Name of Jesus Christ”, Apr. 1985Deuteronomy 12:11, 1 Kings 9:3, Doctrine and Covenants 124:39D&C 109:1-2, 5, 9, 22, 24-28, 78-79, 80Malachi 3:1, Isaiah 18Doctrines of Salvation, comp. Bruce R. McConkie, 3 vols. [1954–56], 2:1322 Nephi 2:9, Moroni 7:28Richard G. Scott, “Joy of Redeeming the Dead”, Oct. 2012Jeremiah 31:31-32, Doctrine & Covenants 133:32-34Gerrit W. Gong, “Covenant Belonging”, Oct. 2019ISAIAH 61:1-4, James E. Faust, “Spiritual Healing”, Ensign Apr. 1992Obadiah 1:17, 21Joseph Smith, George Laub, Reminiscences and Journal Jan. 1845–Apr. 1857, p. 21, Church Archives.ISAIAH 49:7-9, D&C 128:22D. Todd Christofferson, “Redemption”, Apr. 2013JOD, 18:109, Wilford WoodruffSupport the show


