The Dividend Cafe

I do some fun things today in the Dividend Cafe. We dive deep into the dilemma facing income investors, those who want and need cash flow from their portfolio. It is a conversation that can (and does) go in a number of different directions. I hope you find it riveting. And we talk a bit about bubbles, about history, about market fads and market risk … And of course, we look at the present economy and make some bets on where things are going. I hope it will prove informative for you. A lot of topics that somehow are all loosely connected to one another, in this week’s Dividend Cafe. Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Your hosts David L. Bahnsen and Scott Gamm tackle the important finance and economic news of the day. Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Last week, I wrote about investors’ reality (especially professional investors) being a by-product of the era in which they came to be. The intent was to set the table for how much of my investment worldview was formed. I live with a deep fear of excess valuations, and I live with a deep cynicism of the madness of crowds. Both of these things come from years and years of abundant research. But at the foundation of that research was the experience of living through something that provoked such impulses. I won’t re-hash all of it this week. What I want to do this week is go beyond those two topics (i.e., valuations and crowd madness). We will look at these two things and seek to understand something about both concepts, but more importantly, we will seek to apply what it may mean to the present investing landscape and what it doesn’t mean. This week’s Dividend Cafe wants to analyze a handful of present investing landscape realities, consider the lessons of history, assess where certain things are clearly different right now, and apply what it ought to prudently mean for real-life investors with real-life goals and real-life emotions, right now. It is, indeed, our thesis that a rotation is in motion within investment markets. But I believe that means something very different than what many are saying it means. This week’s Dividend Cafe seeks to provide clarity around what is a truly important subject in 2021. Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

It is appropriate and perhaps entirely ironic that the subject of this week’s Dividend Cafe comes in a week where we have seen some of the most bizarre, insane, and silly market activity, ever, and that this bizarre, insane, and silly activity is accompanied by totally incoherent commentary from various pundits, politicians, and “pros.” Whoever said investing was all math and science is an idiot. But the drama of this week’s market, and even the circumstances around the big headline story of the week (which has actually morphed into a multi-faceted story), really do serve as a reinforcement of the major principles, beliefs, and applications I want to highlight in this week’s commentary. I began writing this Dividend Cafe last weekend, and had conceptualized my thesis well before the drama hit the tape into the week. And I haven’t altered that thesis or even the way I unpack it at all. To the extent some of this week’s Dividend Cafe connects dots with other news stories, great. But my purpose in this week’s commentary is not to make sense of a four-day story, but a four-decade story. And I really hope it will help you in your journey and understanding as an investor. I have long believed that all professional investors are irreversibly shaped by the era in which they grew up as an investor. This is more true of the lessons learned in that era that proved to be negative lessons than positive ones. Put differently, the major events that damage us in our formative years teach lessons that don’t go away easily. I want to do a little history this week, talk a little investment biography, and ultimately, offer some lessons about my outlook on the present investing era that ought to transcend anything you will find in a chat room, on social media, or in the madness of the moment. It’s a low bar. Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Strong discussion on the market happenings shaping the lives of investors with David Bahnsen, Managing Director and CIO of The Bahnsen Group and Scott Gamm of Strategy Voice and Associates Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

In this episode, the point I am making is more than just “politics is overrated in evaluating market conditions” (even though that is very true). I not only believe this subject of Inflation vs. Deflation is more important than anything else in understanding the 3-year, 5-year, and 10-year state of financial markets, I also believe it is a welcome reprieve from what is just overdone, over-covered, over-saturated, and ready for a break. Inflation vs. Deflation Part II – jump on in to the Dividend Cafe. DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

The Crux of the Matter If you believed that interest rates were going to be 0-2% would you invest capital differently than if you believed they would be 5-7%? If you believed that inflation would run 1-3%, would you invest differently than if you believed it would run 4-6%? Does one’s view on interest rates and forward-inflation impact their expectations for P/E ratios (market valuations)? If credit is going to tighten (ease of access to capital and cost of capital), would that alter one’s allocation to corporate credit, private equity, public equity, and a host of other risk asset classes? Would one’s view on the U.S. dollar potentially influence their allocation to domestic vs. foreign assets? And regardless of how one’s views on interest rates, inflation, credit, and currency impacts the decisions, they make on investment decisions, will all of these things impact the expected return on all asset classes (whether or not it alters your weightings in such asset classes)? And if these things impact expected returns in various asset classes, does that have practical significance to one’s financial planning, accumulation goals, withdrawal goals, and other such tangible dimensions of wealth management? The answer to every question above is YES, and pretty much all emphatically so, which means that every person reading this has a real dog in the hunt when it comes to the great economic debate of our time: Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Where to begin, indeed. It may have been exactly the kind of week investors wanted to start off 2021, but it certainly wasn’t the kind of week anyone wanted to start off 2021 from the vantage point of our country, her peace, her well-being, and her example to the world. The concept of a city on a hill is not working well, and this patriot feels total exasperation and desperation. But I do know the readers of Dividend Cafe do not come to this publication for perspective on national conscience or psyche, especially not my clients. I believe there is a lot in this week’s Dividend Cafe that you will want to read, that matters to investors, that can better inform your beliefs and understandings in financial markets. So I am going to do what I normally do, and welcome any questions and comments any of you may have – as always. Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

In-depth discussion of the Year Ahead, predictions made last year, and the impact of the Senate race. Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com

Our very special annual white paper is here, wherein we exhaustively recap 2020 and the year that just was (yes, even beyond the obvious stuff), and provide our key themes and perspectives for the year ahead. Reach out with any questions, and feel free to share/forward as you wish! Contact us at www.thebahnsengroup.com for your copy. Links mentioned in this episode: DividendCafe.com TheBahnsenGroup.com