

The Derivative
RCM Alternatives
Welcome to The Derivative by RCM Alternatives, where we dive into what makes alternative investments go, analyze the strategies of unique hedge fund managers, and chat with interesting guests from across the investment world. Hosted by RCM Managing Partner, Jeff Malec, join us to take a ride through the world of alternative investments.
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Jan 13, 2022 • 1h 14min
Emissions Trading and Carbon Allowance Futures with Michael Azlen
We're taking a trip across the pond to London in this episode and diving into the carbon markets and emissions trading with Michael Azlen, CEO and founder of Carbon Cap Fund and Management. Whether you care about making money off trending carbon emission prices, or saving the planet, or both… Mike has become a leading voice for educating and explaining the role carbon emission credits and the emerging carbon futures markets play.
In this episode, Mike breaks down the complex carbon concepts and answers some critical questions, like how do you trade carbon credits? What is an emissions trading system? Why is Europe the big player in this game? And he even gives us his hottest take in the market right now — we'll give you a slight hint, it involves climate change.
Highlights from this week's episode include:
The evolution of the U.S. and European Carbon Market
Identifying and clarifying the difference between the voluntary carbon market and the compliance or regulated carbon markets (where Carbon Cap invests)
How to think about a market that is structurally designed to increase in price
Understanding how this market functions as a policy tool
A closer look into Europe's carbon border adjustment mechanism
And, how a hedge fund can make money and save the planet simultaneously — you'll want to tune in for these details and more!
Chapters
00:00-02:00 = Intro
02:01-12:38 = Wait? You can trade Emissions? What are Carbon Markets?
12:39-30:40 = Excess units vs Purchase units, Lowering Emissions, & Counter Party Risks
30:41-50:50 = Carbon Cap Mgmt and the Carbon Cap Fund
50:51-01:08:40 = Can we really Capture It? Climate Change, Natural Cycles & C02 levels
01:08:41-01:14:11 = Hottest Take
More from this Episode:
View World Carbon Fund - Generating Absolute Returns from Global Carbon Markets
Visit Carbon Cap Management's website
Follow along with Michael Azlen on Twitter
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
And visit our sponsor, the CME Group at www.cmegroup.com to learn more about futures and options.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Jan 6, 2022 • 1h 22min
2021's Vol moves, 2022's outlook, Meme stocks, Option Flows and KAI with Cem Karsan
We're kickstarting the 2022 season of The Derivative with fan-favorite - Cem Karsan. In this episode, the FinTwit star better known as @jamcroissant and his calls on Gary and Gamma and Vol and Vanna, digs into the interesting 2021 Vol moves, what 2022 may look like in the vol space (not good…or good, depending on your positioning), how he actually trades flow and options in his KAI hedge fund, as well as a journey through all the things that make you go 'hmm.'
Tune in as Cem also highlights the three trading strategies that make up his firm’s offerings, a slightly different take on omicron, how he views the market’s movements as waves driven by flows, and more. Plus, as a bonus, you'll find out how Cem got stuck in a Bolivian salt flat!?
Topics discussed in this episode include:
How COVID accelerated a lot of trends in our lives, including the acceleration of VOL and VOL products
Option volumes dwarfing the actual volume of the things that they are on top of and tracking
What it means to have two-sided skew
How to play Meme stocks, and more!
Chapters:
00:00-01:32 = Intro
01:33-13:24 = Things that make you go Hmmm..
13:24-26:00 = 2021 Vol Movements
26:01-43:15 = Proxy Hedges, Vol compression, Finding the pain points & Illiquid Markets
43:15-01:03:36 = KAI: Riding the Volatility Flow
01:03:37-01:16:05 = What’s in store for Vol in 2022?
01:16:06-1:22:22 = Two Truths & a Lie
Additional resources discussed in this podcast:
Vol Curves and Vanna Charm with Cem Karsan
Wallstreet Bets Busts Wallstreet? WTF ^%$# with Cem Karsan and Kris Sidial
Investing in Volatility & the VIX Whitepaper
Follow Cem on Twitter
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
And visit our sponsor, the CME Group at www.cmegroup.com to learn more about futures and options.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Dec 1, 2021 • 2min
Welcome to The Derivative by RCM Alternatives
Hey everyone, it's hard to find a more interesting cast of characters in the financial world than in alternative investments, where every strategy has a story, every trade has a lesson, and every manager has a unique way of looking at the markets. That's why we started the derivative I'm your host, Jeff Malec. In each episode, I sit down with the people living and breathing futures and options, day in and day out, commodity traders, volatility experts, hedge fund managers. We even get some quants to pretend they're sociable for an hour as we dive into what makes their investment approach work.

Nov 20, 2021 • 1h 9min
The Bitcoin ETF parade and Grayscale Trust, with Jason Urban of Galaxy Digital
Join us in this, our last episode of the year, where we’re talking Crypto and Bitcoin ETFs with Jason Urban, Global Co-Head of Trading at Galaxy Digital – which is perhaps better known as the folks behind the world’s largest Bitcoin Fund, the Grayscale Bitcoin Trust and its ownership of 650k+ bitcoin! Today we step into a bit of Jason’s past when he founded and ran the equity index derivative business at a Chicago prop firm DRW and his time at Goldman Sachs where he ran its equity vol business. We talk about all the moving parts of pure flow trading, skew/cheap, skew/rich, the right side of the trade, when to get out; and his first exposure to Crypto Currencies. Jason talks Grayscale, billionaire founder Michael Novogratz & all things Galaxy Digital, from touching all aspects of the crypto universe, from mining to trading to venture funding; being on the Institutional only side of the market, whether or not DeFi is a Disrupter or tool, the FOMO aspect, staking, and maintaining the ledger, the mining ecosystem and the decentralized way of doing things while trying to solve problems in this Crypto space. If all that doesn’t get you going about Crypto currencies, we still find room to discuss just what the Options space looks like in crypto (the implied vol is how much??), Bilateral trading, and of course - the Grayscale Trust going from premium to discount – and the potential for all the new Bitcoin ETFs coming out. Enjoy!
Chapters:
00:00-02:19 =Intro
02:20-19:04 = Goldman, DRW, and Trading House Money
19:05-31:21 = Galaxy Digital, Are you a Disrupter?, and What’s Novo Like?
31:22-44:18 =The Day-to-Day in the Global Crypto Space, the FOMO Aspect, Staking, & Solving the Problem
44:19-51:20 = Options & Bilateral Trading
51:21-01:04:47 =Create or Redeem: The Grayscale Trust and New Bitcoin ETFs
01:04:48-01:09:03 =Favorites
Follow along with Galaxy Digital on Twitter @GalaxyDigitalHQ and visit their website for more information at https://www.galaxydigital.io/
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
And visit our sponsor, the CME Group at www.cmegroup.com to learn more about futures and options.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

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Nov 13, 2021 • 1h 25min
A Multi PM (Global) Macro Masterclass with Markian Zyga
In this episode, we shed some light on one of the largest groups you’ve maybe never heard of, whose new “mission” is to seek out incredible trading talent and blend them together in a multi-PM Global Macro approach. We get into just how this all works, and more, in our chat with Markian Zyga, Portfolio Manager of Mission Crest, which is a subsidiary of Lighthouse Investment Partners who oversee about 14 billion in assets across their own hedge funds, solutions and services groups.
We begin by discussing Markian’s background and start in the investment world, his college soccer days, what allocators miss, and how to avoid falling for the narrative of a strategy. Digging in deeper we talk how, why, and when to allocate to Emerging managers, the fund of funds versus Multi PM models, the Mission Crest strategy, macro investors, this history of Global Macro, the current Global Macro environment, blending discretionary and systematic together, trading tactically on the shorter side of trade duration, capturing big macro trends, seeking out capacity constrained strategies and searching for Alpha in the markets they’re trading. But we don’t stop there... Markian explains Mission Crests’ Multi-PM model, how the process of finding top trading talent includes both trust and identifying an edge. Buckle up for an interesting discussion on their global macro approach to investing for absolute returns.
Chapters:
00:00-03:38= Intro
03:39-16:16= Striker to Strategist, and avoiding the Narratives
16:17-25:40= Emerging Managers & the Fund of Funds vs Multi PM Model
25:41-46:44= The Global Macro, all Assets, all Regions, Sustainable Edge Mission
46:45-01:00:46= Finding Attractive Talent, Gaining Trust, & Maintaining the Right Mental Space
01:00:47-01:12:59= Fixing the Great Trader/Terrible Business Person Conundrum
01:13:00-01:20:21= Accessing A.I., Model Degradation & Machine Learning
01:20:22-01:24:55= Favorites
For more information please visit lighthousepartners.com
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
And visit our sponsor, the CME Group at www.cmegroup.com to learn more about futures and options.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Nov 4, 2021 • 1h 26min
Attaining an Allocator's Edge with Phil Huber
This week is a cage match of a pod, going point/counterpoint on every Alt from private equity to fine art to digital assets with Phil Huber and the knowledge he’s about to drop in his upcoming new book ‘The Allocators Edge: A modern guide to alternative investments and the future of diversification’. Phil is the Chief Investment Officer at Savant Wealth Management. As a Chicago native, we talk with Phil about his start in investments with his interests in the family business from an RIA wealth management background and decided to sink his teeth in. We dive into his book talking about everything from how the actual writing of it went – to what’s being said in it – from the current issues with the 60/40 portfolio, his blog bps and pieces, why sometimes the juice isn’t worth the squeeze, the thin line between traditional and alternative portfolios, his periodic table of investments, reviewing a huge list of Alternative Investments, including private equity, real estate, fine art, digital assets, style premia, real assets, trend following, and more, the state of Indiana sports, 80’s-90’s pro wrestling, and Chicago pizza. Join us on this interesting Alt-tastic ride as we dig into what really is an Alternative investment by cracking open that “Other” bucket on the client statements.
Chapters:
00:00-02:37 = Intro
02:38-13:30 = Family Ties & the Modern RIA playbook
13:31-24:40 = Blogs, Muses, and the Allocator’s Edge
24:41-32:51 = The Problems with the 60/40 portfolio in today’s world
32:52-46:15 = The Periodic Table of Investments
46:16-01:08:14 = Walking through a dozen Alternative Investments ALT by ALT
01:08:15-01:20:42 = Digital Assets, and How a Portfolio of Alts might Look
01:20:43-01:26:05 = Favorites
From the Episode:
Get his book on Amazon, Barnes & Noble
Read Phil's blog bps and pieces: https://bpsandpieces.com/ & Follow Phil on Twitter @bpsandpieces
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAltsand our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
And visit our sponsor, the CME Group at www.cmegroup.com to learn more about futures and options.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Oct 28, 2021 • 1h 12min
Convex (CONVX) to the Core with Certeza’s Brett Nelson
In this episode, we sit down again with one of the OGs of VIX futures trading & options, Brett Nelson, CEO of Certeza Asset Management, and discuss their new mutual fund — Convex Core and how it relates to their Macro Vega hedge fund strategy. Join us to hear how the mutual fund aims to participate when the market is up, exploit opportunities when things get bumpy, and then protect heavily when the market is down. Brett explains why Convex Core isn't just an overlay strategy and how utilizing changes in Vega & Gamma can help protect you in a rough market. We talk about the Geometric Loss Problem, Certeza's three regimes of Volatility, their equity component, dialing through options, looking for the mathematical structure in the market, the rebalancing premium, and the importance of educating Advisors/Investors on volatility as an asset class. Finally, we ask Brett's opinions on some well-known relative value or Volatility arbitrage trades, asking when they work and when they don’t. And rounding things out is a discussion on the two new VIX ETF products coming out, and Brett’s thoughts on Delta Hedging Market Makers, just how critical "flow" is, and what the next disruption event could look like.
Chapters:
00:00-02:46= Intro
02:47-06:04= Covid = A Missed VIXportunity
06:05-025:02= A Flawed Mentality & The 3 Regimes of Volatility
25:03-38:09= Masquerading As an Equity Strat & the Rebalancing Premium
38:10-48:21 = What Works? What Doesn’t in Vol Arb trading
48:21-54:39= VIX ETFs: Good, Bad, or Ugly?
54:40-01:11:55= Delta Hedging Market Makers: A Game within Games
Check out our previous episode with Brett here: Seeking (VIX) Certainty with Certeza's Brett Nelson
Follow along with Brett on Twitter @CertezaAM
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
And visit our sponsor, the CME Group at www.cmegroup.com to learn more about futures and options.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Oct 14, 2021 • 1h 19min
Weigh More than You Wanted to Know About Meat, with AgriTrend’s Simon Quilty
In this week's pod, we're doing something new and digging into the derivative market's Ag roots in our first "Way more than you need to Know" series, starting with the Global Meat Markets. Joining us today discussing all things Meat in the world is Simon Quilty, from Melbourne, Australia, and also RCM's very own Jeff Eizenberg, who handles all things Ag, including hosting the Hedged Edge podcast where they talk grown in the ground commodities once a month. Today we get an overview of the Global meat market: Beef, Poultry, and Pork, the main players and the main concerns, including labor and shipping shortages being a critical problem in securing food security around the globe. Simon talks about how he goes about hedging the various contracts providing risk management for the current disruption for in-demand meat products. We're talking Cutouts, CME vs. Wholesale prices and how to manage that risk, using swaps and removing basis risk to help manage price risk, and how the big players in the meat industry navigate it all. Bacon? Who said bacon. We briefly discuss that cut of pork belly that most of the US and Canada love so much & the future of alternative food, Beyond Meat, and their questionable mark on the industry since COVID. Also, We Want the Beef! Why beef will continue to dominate the meat market and why inflation is fueling it right along.
Chapters:
00:00-02:44 = Intro
02:45-07:18 = From Dancing Lessons in Melbourne To Escaping Tiananmen Square
07:19-23:04 = How Big is the Global Meat Market? Who has it? Who needs it?
23:05-36:59 = Big Player’s Concerns & the Tightening of the Global Beef Supply
37:00-57:57 = The Hedgers Toolbox: Futures, Cutouts, Swaps & Offsetting Risk
57:58-01:15:12 = Bacon Lovers, Beyond Meat as a Bust, and a Little Lamb
01:15:13-01:18:34 = Favorites
Follow along with Simon on Twitter @SimonQuilty and for more information visit the website at globalagritrends.com
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
And visit our sponsor, the CME Group at www.cmegroup.com to learn more about futures and options.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Oct 7, 2021 • 58min
Reimagining Risk and Reinsurance (& Cat Bonds) with Chris McKeown of Vantage Risk
We’re looking into the far reaches of the search for yield in this episode, diving into investors’ interest in so-called Cat Bonds, or catastrophe bonds, and the world of reinsurance and ILS (insurance-linked securities). Yes, even the biggest risk-takers need backing – and we’re talking Reinsurance with Chris McKeown, Chief Executive of Reinsurance, ILS, and Innovation at Vantage Group Holdings. Take a trip with us and daydream about Bermuda as we define reinsurance: the secondary market & their clientele, capital protection, the risk transfer process and what efforts go into sorting through claims, what disaster gaps are, and how reinsurance is helping aid areas in vital need of protection. We’re discussing Cat(Catastrophe) bonds, ILS, Pop & Drop Hurricanes, Climatology, tight ecosystems, secret handshakes, and why Bermuda is the central hub for reinsurance. Chris explains the importance of adjusting models to deploying capital, why cat bond investors rely on these models, and what structural issues the business of reinsurance is facing in an upside market, trying to bring investors in.
Chapters:
00:00-02:39 = Intro
02:40-10:43 = Taking on Risk in the Hurricane Belt
10:44-32:41 = Off-loading Riskvia Reinsurance, Capital Deployment & Investor portfolio protection
32:42-38:21 = Cat Bonds & Structural Issues in an Upside Down Market
38:22-52:35 = Climate Change, Adjusting Models & Defining Capital in a Tight Ecosystem
52:36-58:05 = Favorites
For more information about Vantage Group Holdings please visit vantagerisk.com
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest.
And visit our sponsor, the CME Group at www.cmegroup.com to learn more about futures and options.
Disclaimer: This podcast is provided for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as legal, business, or tax advice. All opinions expressed by podcast participants are solely their own opinions and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of RCM Alternatives, their affiliates, or companies featured. Due to industry regulations, participants on this podcast are instructed not to make specific trade recommendations, nor reference past or potential profits. And listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer

Sep 30, 2021 • 1h 18min
Why Whales Tails Whip Up Market Tremors with Hari Krishnan
How do large delta hedging flows of market makers tie in with Central Bank quantitative easing? How do ETF rebalancing’s and structured note issuer movements shift markets? We sit down with options guru Hari Krishnan talk through his new book: Market Tremors - Quantifying Structural Risks in Modern Financial Markets.
Hari's first book, The Second Leg Down, talked about what investors can do when they're in trouble and how to structure actual options trades to keep bleed under control and maximize protection. This time, he's zooming out and asking how to know when there might be trouble lurking. How we can quantify and identify events like Volmageddon (Feb 2018), the Swiss Franc depeg (Jan 2015), Game Stop run up (2021), and more. In a world where we often get bogged down considering how specific items like this gamma, or that Fed decision, or how large ETFs flows will impact markets, Hari masterfully weaves all those 'agents' together to consider how we apply a real world risk to these agents shifting the distributions we rely on to size investment positions. Enjoy the episode.
Chapters:
00:00-03:13=Intro
03:14-06:34 = Volatility - The Last Chance Saloon
06:35-15:20 = There’s London Whales Everywhere
15:21-31:55 = Merging Normally Distributed & Networked Chaos
31:56-42:01 = Volmageddon: A Case Study
42:02-54:19 = Big Gamma: Market Making Options / Do Less
54:20-01:09:43 = The Danger of 1 / Volatility Position Sizing
01:09:44-01:17:37 = Takeaways & The Twin Heralds of Risk
Follow Hari on Twitter @HariPKrishnan2 and check out his book here.
From the episode:
Sequencing, Skew, and (option) Strikes with Hari Krishnan
The NON-Wisdom of Crowds with Nigol Koulajian of Quest Partners
Straddles, SVXY, and (Gamma) Scalping with Logica’s Mike Green
The Tail Has Wagged the Dog
The Swiss (Franc) Isn't All that Neutral
Don't forget to subscribe to The Derivative, and follow us on Twitter at @rcmAlts and our host Jeff at @AttainCap2, or LinkedIn , and Facebook, and sign-up for our blog digest. Listeners are reminded that managed futures, commodity trading, and other alternative investments are complex and carry a risk of substantial losses. As such, they are not suitable for all investors. RCM Alternatives is DBA Reliance Capital Markets II, LLC. For more information, visit www.rcmalternatives.com/disclaimer


