

Personal Injury Mastermind w/ Chris Dreyer
Chris Dreyer, Rankings.io
Get more cases. Grow Revenue. Build a Personal Injury law firm that wins in any market. ‘PIM’ gives you the systems, frameworks, and decision models top law firms use to grow with intent. If you run a personal injury practice and want scale, without chaos, start here.
Host Chris Dreyer talks with the attorneys, operators, and founders who have already built what most firms are chasing. They walk through how they acquire cases at volume, master legal marketing, strengthen intake, control case costs, adopt AI, hire effectively, expand into new markets, and operate like disciplined businesses built for durability.
Guests include leaders behind some of the most effective PI firms in America: James Helm, Ross Cellino, Amanda Demanda, Mike Morse, Joe Fried, Jennifer Gore, and Nick Rowley. And innovators reshaping client acquisition and legal operations.
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Host Chris Dreyer talks with the attorneys, operators, and founders who have already built what most firms are chasing. They walk through how they acquire cases at volume, master legal marketing, strengthen intake, control case costs, adopt AI, hire effectively, expand into new markets, and operate like disciplined businesses built for durability.
Guests include leaders behind some of the most effective PI firms in America: James Helm, Ross Cellino, Amanda Demanda, Mike Morse, Joe Fried, Jennifer Gore, and Nick Rowley. And innovators reshaping client acquisition and legal operations.
Outperform the competition. Start here. Subscribe to Personal Injury Mastermind (PIM)
Join the newsletter: www.newsletter.rankings.io
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Apr 14, 2022 • 47min
118. Law Firm SEO: How to Dominate Google
Comprehensive SEO tactics and tested methods are necessary to consistently bring in qualified clients. Each week we bring you insights from marketers, thought leaders, and lawyers to offer insight on explosive growth for personal injury attorneys. Today, I shine a light on the bedrock of growth for every ambitious law firm: SEO.Hear some of my favorite insights and surprising takeaways on purposeful content, onsite SEO and site architecture, creating an intuitive user experience, and building great links. We also dive into local SEO and what the future of content creation may hold. Get expert advice from marketing powerhouses like Rand Fishkin and Neil Patel. Discover data-driven methods with Maria Monroy and Gabriel Levin. And dig in to the technical side with Steven Willi and more.What's in This Episode
How does building a preferred brand help your firm rank above the fold?
What are the three highest value actions that will help SEO?
What types of content have the biggest impact?
How can you rethink indexing to optimize onsite SEO?
What makes a great backlink?
How does Google determine relevance when it comes to local SEO?
How will content teams of the future need to be restructured?
How important is site speed, really?

Apr 7, 2022 • 29min
117. Brandon Yosha, Yosha Cook & Tisch — Innovation: The New Guard on Foundation and Future Marketing
Brandon Yosha has large shoes to fill. The son of Buddy Yosha - nationally renowned trial lawyer - he joined Yosha Cook & Tisch and quickly made headlines. Within five weeks of joining the firm he was entrusted to deliver an opening argument against Indianapolis Power and Light. The resulting verdict? $20.3 Million in damages. This former Division I athlete is carving his own path as a promising attorney. He is the youngest recipient of the prestigious Marquis Who's Who list of Top Lawyers in America and has served over 100 clients since 2019.I caught up with Brandon to understand what went into preparing for his monumental first trial. We also discuss the importance of mentors, putting the client first, and the power of blending traditional and new marketing.What's in this Episode?
Who is Brandon Yosha?
What did you learn from securing a $20.3 MM verdict in your first trial?
How does relationship equity factor into the growth of a law firm?
What traditional models of marketing have the largest ROI?
How can TikTok shape the future of a law firm?

Mar 31, 2022 • 33min
116. Liel Levy, Nanato Media — Breaking into the Bilingual Market
Bilingual law firms are an investment in the future - in the U.S., 13% of the population speaks Spanish at home. Serving this market requires a strategy that looks beyond the nuance of language and taps into cultural competency. Liel Levy is doing just that. He and his wife , Co-Founder Natalie, have managed over $15MM in ad spend to bring law firms into the bilingual market. But Liel's experience goes far beyond Atlanta-based Nanato Media. Liel, a native speaker himself, grew up working for the family business - one of the largest legal brands in the U.S. that happened to serve latino clients. On today's episode we discuss creating a firm that reflects the community it serves, hiring native speakers, and removing the friction between law firms and hispanic clients.What's in this Episode?
Who is Liel Levy?
Why is a bilingual strategy a legacy strategy?
How can law firms set up a customer experience for Spanish speaking clients that allow them to thrive?
What is the first step in building a bilingual law firm?
What is the best way to communicate with Spanish speaking clients?
Why is Google Translate a bad idea?

Mar 24, 2022 • 23min
115. Susan Ziegler, SLS Consulting - SEO Foundations: A Mini Masterclass
Susan Ziegler is the catalyst behind explosive law firm growth - taking one firm from five offices to 70; she routinely doubles traffic and brings in billions of revenue for her clients as a result. Her foundation of two decades in digital marketing has earned her and her firm, SLS Consulting, the Pasadena Business Hall of Fame 13 years running. Specializing in website design, SEO, PPC, and content, Susan starts with the unique problem each firm faces and crafts a bespoke plan to get the best results.Susan and I cover how to structure comprehensive SEO and PPC campaigns, what to spend, and what goes into building a website that converts.What’s in This Episode:
Who is Susan Ziegler?
What elements make up a strong SEO strategy?
What kind of links are best for helping a website rank?
Why it takes three months to see results from a PPC campaign.
Where social media comes into play for law firms.
What free marketing platforms can law firms use to get started?

Mar 17, 2022 • 26min
114. Justin Q Croxton, Propellant Media — Geofencing and Omnichannel Digital Marketing: A Mini Masterclass
CEO of Propellant Media, Justin Q Croxton is the authority on geofencing advertising and omnichannel marketing. Since 2012, the Inc. 5000 entrepreneur has helped attorneys in the greater Atlanta area grow their firms exponentially by leveraging programmatic display, paid media, social media advertising, SEO, and performance marketing.I caught up with Justin to explore creative ways personal injury firms can use hyper-specific location advertising and increase qualified impressions. From the basics of what geofencing is and how it works to the importance of retargeting, Justin shares his insights in this mini-masterclass. Listen for more.What’s in This Episode:
Who is Justin Croxton?
What is geofencing and how does it work?
How can geofencing help eliminate waste in ad spending?
How should law firms budget for geofencing?
How can Over The Top advertising and geofencing work in tandem to maximize ROI?

Mar 10, 2022 • 40min
113. Kyle Bachus, Bachus & Schanker — Building Legacy from Bootstraps: 26 years of Marketing Innovation
$900 million recovered and 10,000 clients served by 27 attorneys across four offices. How do two lawyers with a passion and $15,000 grow a firm to one of the largest advertisers in Colorado? I caught up with Kyle Bachus, founding partner of Bachus & Schanker, to find out. He and his founding partner Darren Schanker are Million Dollar Associates Forum members and Super Lawyers 10 years running. The duo has been on the cutting edge of omnichannel marketing since 1997 and offers unparalleled insight into personal injury marketing.I met with Kyle to discuss bootstrapping a law firm, the smartest ways to spend marketing budgets, how to know when the effort is effective, and the importance of a holistic representation. Listen for more. What’s in This Episode:
Who is Kyle Bachus?
How Kyle and his partner, Darren, bootstrapped their law firm with just $15,000
How healthy competition and the “rule of five” created initial growth
How a new firm can get clients before building a brand
Why hitting multiple marketing firms will increase ROI
Why Kyle wrote a book to help the families of victims of wrongful death
How empathy can guide ad copy and develop a stronger connection to potential clients

Mar 3, 2022 • 37min
112. Reza Torkzadeh, TorkLaw — Serving a Nationwide Community: How Authenticity Leads to Massive Growth
Over the past decade, TorkLaw has secured $150 Million in judgments, verdicts, and settlements, opened 12 physical offices in nine states, and secured the largest verdict in California history - $26 million. Founder and senior partner, Reza Torkzadeh is guided by the core purpose of changing people's lives and uses the alignment of decisions with core values as a metric of success. Why? Because Reza believes that being your most authentic, true self, is where attorneys can really make a difference.I caught up with Reza to dig into the tough decisions that come from living your values, how success is top-down and creative ways to engage with the communities you wish to serve. Listen for more. What's in this episode:
Who is Reza Torkzadeh?
The core values of radical authenticity, commitment to the win, respect for each other, growth mindset, and unwavering integrity and how they shape Reza's firm
Creating hiring funnels that look for reasons not to hire a candidate and why it is to your advantage
Recruiting as marketing and showcasing what the firm does for the community
Holding out for the gems in the rough. rushing a hire out of desperation will cost you every time
All marketing works, but only when you are willing to spend what it takes to acquire a case
Give back to the community authentically to connect and generate referrals for those you want to serve
How writing the book on personal injury immediately makes your firm an authority

Feb 24, 2022 • 25min
111. Joseph Wilson, Joseph Wilson Injury Lawyers — To Maximize Case Value: Tapping the Human Element
Joseph Wilson’s accolades could fill a Rolodex. This Super Lawyer Rising Star has been recognized by National Trial Lawyers as a top 40 under 40 and has been selected as a top 30 under 30 by the Atlanta Business Chronicle. But don't let his age fool you. In the past eight years, Joseph has led counsel on over 25 jury trials and reclaimed millions for his clients. Joseph and his Atlanta-based firm, Joseph Wilson Injury Lawyers, has settled over 30 six-figure settlements. To become a preeminent trial lawyer in personal injury, you have to work harder, invest more, and know that you are the best lawyer in the courtroom. I always say that competence breeds confidence and today is a perfect example. I sat down with Joseph to tackle the ins and outs of personal injury trial preparation, positive mindset, and tapping into the human element in every case. Listen for more. What’s In This Episode
Who is Joseph Wilson?
The importance of over-preparation in pre-trial
How to secure compelling witnesses that sound completing and strong
How to tell a human story to the jury
Maximize the value of the case by investing in pre-trial discovery
Mindset and confidence in, and out, of the courtroom
Learn from peers; let other lawyers inspire you

Feb 17, 2022 • 31min
110. Megan Hargroder, Conversations Digital — Organic Social Media Marketing: Crafting a Brand Story that Converts
Megan Hargroder, CEO at Conversations Digital excels in creating clear story-based messaging and organic social media marketing campaigns for personal injury attorneys. Her San Diego based team has helped over one hundred ambitious lawyers scale their business in the most competitive landscapes.Clients need to know they can trust their attorney to solve their unique problem in a time of crisis. How can a law firm demonstrate trust? I caught up with Megan to find out how humanizing a law firm through empathetic communication, authority building, and a little vulnerability can connect attorneys to the communities they aim to serve. We dive deep into organic social media marketing, celebrating victories, and creating a compelling brand story. Listen for more. What’s In This Episode
Who is Megan Hargroder?
The importance of creating a clear and cohesive brand story
How empathy, authority, and vulnerability in your brand inspire trust
To stand out from the crowd, get involved with the community you wish to serve
How connection points foster trust
How to master organic social media marketing by leveraging your existing connections
Getting the most traction from a new social media post by blending organic content and paid boosts
Why your digital presence should be a reflection of your real-life law firm

Feb 10, 2022 • 45min
109. Steven Willi, Rankings.io — The Holy Trinity of SEO
For nearly two decades Steven Willi has commanded first page Google rankings for Personal Injury Attorneys. President at Rankings.io, Steven and the Rankings team relentlessly secure top-ranked spots for keywords that convert.Personal Injury is hands down the most competitive industry. To dominate your niche, you need to know exactly what it takes to bring in major cases. Today Steven and I cover the SEO strategy needed for firms with aggressive growth targets. What’s In This Episode
Who is Steven Willi?
How Steven up-leveled his SEO game through self-guided learning and coaching
The importance of the ‘holy trinity’ of SEO: content, links, and onsite SEO
The most important factors in creating content with great Click-Through Rates
How to refresh your existing content library to get rankings
Best practices for onsite SEO and link building


