

Workplace Stories by RedThread Research
Stacia Garr & Dani Johnson
Workplace Stories is a podcast for HR and people leaders who are tired of noise and need clarity that actually holds up. It is hosted by Stacia Garr and Dani Johnson of RedThread Research.Each episode features candid conversations with practitioners, thinkers, and executives who are navigating real decisions inside complex organizations. Not hypotheticals. Not vendor promises. Real tradeoffs, real experiments, and real lessons learned along the way.You’ll hear how leaders are making sense of skills, AI, organizational design, and culture when there’s no clear playbook and pressure to show progress is high. The focus is always the same: what’s actually working, what isn’t, and what leaders are doing next.Workplace Stories helps you make sense of complexity, build credibility with evidence, and move from ideas to action with more confidence.Want to be part of the conversation? Join our community for free and connect with others shaping the future of work.Learn more about RedThread Research here: https://redthreadresearch.com/home
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Mar 18, 2026 • 47min
A Culture of Development at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York: Jenna Filipkowski
Jenna Filipkowski, Head of Learning and Development at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and organizational psychologist, discusses moving from individual upskilling to team development. She explains the Energize program, team coaching as facilitation, when to choose in-person learning, and how branding, data, and manager accountability build credible, sustainable L&D.

Mar 4, 2026 • 50min
Strategic Workforce Planning: David Edwards
David Edwards, author of The Strategic Workforce Planning Handbook and a practitioner with finance, ops, and people analytics experience, discusses modern strategic workforce planning. He explains how SWP reframes planning as a business discipline, uses scenario thinking over false precision, focuses on tasks not jobs, and shows how HR can become a strategic, risk-aware advisor.

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Feb 17, 2026 • 58min
Authentic AI Adoption and Cultural Impact: Dessalen Wood
Dessalen Wood, Chief People Officer at Syntax with HR roots in retail and tech, shares how she flips AI fear into playful experimentation. She talks about hackathons that spark excitement. She outlines a three-layer AI roadmap and the cultural shifts needed for authentic adoption. She also covers measuring impact and keeping human expertise central to AI work.

Feb 4, 2026 • 50min
Five Levels of Becoming AI Native: Melissa Reeve
Melissa Reeve, author and researcher who blends Toyota-era lean thinking with AI adoption, outlines a five-stage path to becoming AI native. She covers dynamic governance, building and managing AI agents, process mapping to spot AI opportunities, and how to fund small value-stream experiments. Short, practical, and systems-focused guidance on rewiring organizations for scalable AI integration.

Jan 21, 2026 • 59min
Reimagining Work at Scale: Manuel Smukalla on Skills, Dynamic Shared Ownership, and the Future of Bayer
Manuel Smukalla, Global Talent Impact, Skills Intelligence, and Systems Lead at Bayer, joins Workplace Stories to unpack one of the most ambitious organizational transformations underway today. As Bayer confronts significant market, legal, and profitability pressures, the company has taken a radically different approach to how work, leadership, and talent are structured, rethinking everything from management layers to career progression.In this episode, Manuel walks through Bayer’s shift to Dynamic Shared Ownership (DSO), a decentralized operating model built around networks of teams, 90-day work cycles, and leaders who coach rather than control. He explains why skills visibility became a foundational requirement for this model to work and how Bayer is using skills data to democratize opportunities, improve talent flow, and fundamentally rethink careers inside a global enterprise.You’ll hear how Bayer reduced management layers by more than half, redesigned leadership expectations through its VAC (Visionary, Architect, Catalyst, Coach) model, and moved toward a culture where employees are empowered, and expected, to own their work, development, and impact.You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...[01:01] Why Bayer embarked on a radical organizational transformation.[04:30] What Dynamic Shared Ownership really means in practice.[06:55] Moving from hierarchical structures to networks of teams.[10:40] Why skills visibility became a critical business problem.[14:05] How 90-day work cycles change accountability and outcomes.[18:10] Building organizations around customer problems, not functions.[21:15] Launching skills profiles as a starting point, not an endpoint.[23:00] How Bayer’s talent marketplace democratizes opportunity at scale.[27:00] The three pillars of a skills-based organization.[33:00] Rethinking careers, performance management, and feedback.[43:10] The VAC leadership model explained.[52:30] Measuring success in a decentralized organization.[53:45] Advice for organizations considering similar transformations.Dynamic Shared Ownership: Redesigning How Work Gets DoneAt the core of Bayer’s transformation is Dynamic Shared Ownership, an operating model that replaces traditional hierarchies with flexible networks of teams. Manuel explains how Bayer reduced its management layers from thirteen to six and reorganized work into 90-day cycles focused on clear outcomes. After each cycle, teams reflect on what worked, what didn’t, and whether the work should continue at all.This approach decentralizes decision-making and forces a shift away from command-and-control leadership. Leaders are no longer expected to direct every task; instead, they create the conditions for teams to succeed, setting direction while trusting teams to determine how outcomes are achieved.Skills as the Engine of Talent FlowFor Dynamic Shared Ownership to function, Bayer needed a new way to understand and deploy talent. Manuel shares a pivotal realization: managers were turning to LinkedIn to understand employee skills because the organization lacked internal visibility. That insight sparked Bayer’s skills journey.Rather than starting with complex taxonomies, Bayer focused first on skill visibility. Employees created and maintained skills profiles, supported by workshops on how to describe capabilities effectively. Over time, this evolved into a talent marketplace that matches people to work based on skills, not job titles, career level, or location, helping democratize access to opportunities across the enterprise.Moving Talent to Work, Not Work to TalentManuel outlines three defining pillars of a skills-based organization. First, talent must move to work rather than work being constrained by static roles. Second, organizations must commit to permanent upskilling, recognizing that development is continuous, not episodic. Third, opportunities must be democratized at scale, reducing reliance on manager sponsorship or informal networks.Bayer’s marketplace supports fixed roles, flex roles, and fully agile project-based work, encouraging employees to actively shape their careers while remaining accountable for outcomes. This model challenges long-held assumptions about promotions, ladders, and linear advancement.Leadership and Performance in a Decentralized WorldLeadership at Bayer has been redefined through the VAC model: Visionary, Architect, Catalyst, and Coach. Leaders set direction, help teams design how value is created, remove barriers, and support rapid cycles of learning. This requires significant unlearning for leaders shaped by traditional hierarchies.Performance management has also shifted. Goals are set in 90-day cycles at the team level, with feedback coming from peers and work leads rather than solely from a direct manager. Over time, this creates richer data on contribution and impact, but also demands a cultural shift toward transparency, shared accountability, and continuous feedback.Connect with Manuel SmukallaManuel Smukalla on LinkedInConnect With Red Thread ResearchWebsite: Red Thread ResearchOn LinkedInOn FacebookOn TwitterSubscribe to WORKPLACE STORIES

Dec 17, 2025 • 53min
Centralizing for Strategy: Christine Crouch on L&D Transformation at General Mills
Christine Crouch, Senior Director of Learning at General Mills who leads a centralized, data-driven L&D transformation. She explains why centralizing unlocks better decision-making and data, how a Learning Business Partner model keeps central teams feeling local, and how AI coaching pilots and GenAI tools are being used to personalize learning in the flow of work.

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Dec 3, 2025 • 57min
Building a Skills-Based Organization with Koreen Pagano
Koreen Pagano, author and product/skills data practitioner with experience at LinkedIn, lynda.com, Degreed, and Wiley, talks skills strategy and workforce transformation. She explores skills vs job architectures, building independent skills systems, using skills data as an early business signal, and how validity, variety, and volume build trust in skill data. Practical stories and AI-era perspectives enliven the conversation.

Nov 19, 2025 • 1h
HR in the Age of AI: Cole Napper on People Analytics, Generative AI, and Redefining Value
In this discussion, Cole Napper, an author and people analytics practitioner, offers bold insights on redefining HR in the age of AI. He highlights the urgent need for HR to shift from a transactional to a data-driven framework. With humor and research, Cole argues that fear, not technology, hinders transformation. He critiques traditional models like Ulrich’s COE, urges organizations to prove their business value, and predicts three potential futures for HR in the next decade. Get ready for a fresh perspective on integrating AI with human strategy!

Nov 5, 2025 • 43min
Eight Levers for the Future: Lori Niles-Hoffman on Reimagining EdTech Transformation
Lori Niles-Hoffman, a global learning strategist with 25 years building enterprise learning systems, breaks down the eight levers that shape successful EdTech transformation. She covers why buying tools fails, the rise of data-driven backends, ecosystem and stakeholder thinking, and how AI exposes weak strategies. Short, practical, and human-centered reflections on future-proofing learning.

Oct 22, 2025 • 1h 6min
Three Futures for Learning: How AI Is Rewriting L&D with Donald H. Taylor and Eglė Vinauskaitė
Donald H. Taylor, a seasoned L&D researcher and author, and Eglė Vinauskaitė, Director of Nodes and expert in AI adoption, dive into the seismic shifts that AI is creating in Learning & Development. They discuss how organizations have transitioned from pilot projects to full-scale implementation of AI tools. Key topics include the importance of team culture, the evolution of L&D roles, and the need for strategic partnerships. The conversation also touches on the three transformative futures for L&D: Skills Authority, Enablement Partner, and Adaptation Engine.


