Intersections

Mark Cuban reflects on his path from early entrepreneurial experiments to building and selling multiple companies, including Broadcast.com. He shares lessons on recognizing opportunity during industry change, managing risk, and staying disciplined through uncertainty. Cuban also discusses what it took to reshape the Dallas Mavericks into a championship organization, emphasizing culture, accountability, and leadership. Cuban approached ownership differently, which led to the decisions that shaped the 2011 championship run. He reflects on difficult moments like letting Steve Nash walk and how those decisions ultimately influenced Dirk Nowitzki’s leadership growth. The discussion also touches on more recent dynamics around team building, including the complexities of modern player movement and expectations surrounding stars like Luka Dončić, as well as Cuban’s role following the sale of a majority stake in the franchise. Together, it paints a clear picture of how ownership decisions, culture, and timing intersect in building—and sustaining—a winning organization.The episode closes with Cuban’s focus beyond sports, particularly his work with Cost Plus Drugs. He explains how a lack of transparency in pharmaceutical pricing led him to build a model that clearly shows cost, markup, and final price to consumers. He also outlines the structural challenges within healthcare—especially the role of middlemen like pharmacy benefit managers—and why he believes disrupting that system can have a broader impact than anything he accomplished in sports.In This Episode[02:00] Indiana, NIL, and Finding Opportunity in Change[07:40] Early Life & Entrepreneurial Mindset[12:00] Moving to Dallas, Getting Fired, Starting Over[20:00] Broadcast.com, IPO, and the Yahoo Sale[25:00] Managing Risk & Protecting Wealth[26:36] Buying the Mavericks & Early Ownership Vision[35:40] Steve Nash Decision & Building Around Dirk[40:00] Championship Run, 2006 Loss & 2011 Redemption[54:58] Selling the Mavericks & Regret Around the Deal[56:00] Luka Dončić, Star Pressure & Modern NBA Reality[01:04:00] Cost Plus Drugs & Disrupting HealthcareThanks to Our SponsorsOur Presenting Sponsor is ⁠Lynn, Pinker, Hurst & Schwegmann. ⁠ To learn more visit: https://www.lynnllp.com. And thank you for your support.⁠⁠⁠Clay Cooley Automotive⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Arcis Golf⁠⁠⁠Like and Subscribe🍏 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎧 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠—Editing and Support by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Good Podcast Co.⁠

Jay Hartzell, SMU president and former UT leader with a finance and academic background, reflects on choosing SMU for impact and Dallas’s support. He discusses navigating COVID and campus crises, the big shifts in college athletics like conference realignment and NIL, and SMU’s strategy for growth, research, and memorable campus experiences.

Rick Welts, Hall of Fame NBA executive and current Mavericks CEO, reflects on a 57-year career that shaped All-Star Weekend and global basketball. He talks Mavericks rebuilding after the Luka trade. He outlines building around rising star Cooper Flagg. He describes plans for a new arena and an entertainment district to anchor downtown Dallas.

Craig Hall, a real estate magnate turned philanthropist and vintner, tells an electric story of rise, collapse, and reinvention. He talks about risky early bets, turning $111k into $66M, the 1980s crash and a federal lawsuit, liquidating assets to repay investors, and building Hall Wines and major Dallas developments. Short, candid, and full of bold turns.

Lucy Billingsley, co-founder of Billingsley Company, shares how she stepped out from under a legendary last name to build her own path in real estate. From launching a travel business to developing landmark master-planned communities like Austin Ranch and Cypress Waters, Lucy explains why fear can be fuel, integrity is non-negotiable, and long-term ownership wins.She also tackles big-picture questions about downtown Dallas, office uncertainty, housing affordability, infrastructure challenges, and what it takes to create communities that last. At the heart of it all? Leadership, reinvention, and building a platform for the next generation.In This Episode[05:00] Integrity, Fear & Early Career Lessons[10:00] Market Center & Entrepreneurial Leap[15:30] Building Billingsley Company[20:00] Master-Planned Strategy: Austin Ranch & Cypress Waters[26:00] “Apartments Without the Complex”[30:00] One Arts Plaza & Downtown Dallas[34:00] The Future of Downtown & the Arts District[39:00] Regional Growth & Infrastructure Risks[44:00] Housing Affordability & Office Headwinds[48:00] Reinvention: Single-Family & Built-to-Rent[55:00] Leadership, Legacy & Investing in WomenThanks to Our Sponsors⁠⁠⁠Clay Cooley Automotive⁠⁠⁠Like and Subscribe🍏 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎧 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠—Editing and Support by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Good Podcast Co.⁠

Entrepreneur and former honey mogul Nate Sheets—best known for founding Nature Nate’s, the #1 honey brand in America—joins the show as he runs for Texas Agriculture Commissioner. From humble beginnings with a single beehive to full-time ministry to launching the “I Am Second” campaign, Nate shares how faith, food, and service intersect in his journey. He gets real about the collapse of mid-sized farms, America’s growing reliance on foreign food, the obesity epidemic, and why your grocery bill is getting bigger. Whether it’s school lunches or seed monopolies, Nate lays out a hopeful but urgent call to rethink how we feed our families and support our farmers.In This Episode[01:30] Meet Nate Sheets: Entrepreneur, Honey Guy, Ag Candidate[02:30] Why Ag Policy Should Matter to City Folks[03:50] Food, Health, and the Generational Impact of Cheap Calories[05:30] The Birth of Nature Nate’s and the Beekeeping Origin Story[11:00] Creating “I Am Second” & Faith-Driven Marketing[18:00] From Honey to Politics: What Made Him Run for Ag Commissioner[21:00] What’s Broken in Texas Agriculture—and How He’d Fix It[28:00] Price Gaps, Margin Stacking & Losing Family Farms[36:00] Rebuilding Infrastructure: Meat Processing, Seed Access & Cotton Gins[38:00] Four Ps: People, Process, Profit, Product[41:00] Fixing School Lunches & Child Nutrition[44:00] The Labor Paradox: Immigration and Ag Jobs[50:00] Tech, Bots, and the Future of Ag Labor[59:00] Fighting the Sugar Industry & Learning from EuropeGuest and Mentioned ResourcesNate's Campaign SiteNature Nate’s Honey I Am Second E3 Partners MinistryThanks to Our Sponsors⁠⁠Clay Cooley Automotive⁠⁠Like and Subscribe🍏 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎧 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠—Editing and Support by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Good Podcast Co.⁠

Jim Keyes, former CEO of 7‑Eleven and Blockbuster and founder of Education Is Freedom, shares vivid stories from his rise in retail and corporate leadership. He discusses strategic near‑misses with Google and Paramount. He outlines a tech‑forward vision for reinventing public education and explains lessons learned from international retail systems and crisis management.

Bill and Liz Armstrong are the definition of true wildcatters—oil explorers who bet big and drill deep. From meeting in a geology class at SMU to navigating oil booms, busts, and blowouts, their journey is one of guts, grit, and a whole lot of geology. In this episode, they unpack wild stories from Alaska’s North Slope, how a gas well made front-page news, and why they’ve never taken on debt in their business. It’s about risk, resilience, and the romance of chasing something big—with plenty of laughs along the way.In This Episode[00:01:00] SMU Sparks: How Bill and Liz met and bonded over geology.[00:05:00] Oil Mentors: Caddying for Boone Pickens and early influences.[00:10:00] Field Camp Flames: From classmates to couple.[00:13:00] Bankruptcy Lessons: Liz’s family story and debt-free mindset.[00:15:00] Startup Grind: Launching Armstrong Oil from scratch.[00:23:00] All In: A near-foreclosure and a bold pitch.[00:26:00] Boom & Blowout: Big risks and a gas fire in California.[00:31:00] Alaska Gold: Finding a 3-billion-barrel oil field.[00:43:00] Staying Independent: Why they said no to buyouts.[01:03:00] Legacy & Values: Family, faith, and what really matters.Thanks to Our SponsorsClay Cooley AutomotiveLike and Subscribe🍏 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎧 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠—Editing and Support by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Good Podcast Co.⁠

Chuck Anderson, Dallas real estate developer and Bandera Ventures co-founder who rose from small-town Nebraska, shares candid stories of career pivots, big deals like Ross Tower and the M&M/Mars build-to-suit, and a life-changing cancer diagnosis that sparked a bold faith. He talks leadership, partnership rules, downtown Dallas recovery, Preston Center’s boom, and lessons from costly mistakes.

From small-town Texas roots to interviewing presidents on Fox News, Will Cain has worn many hats—sports commentator, political analyst, entrepreneur, and now national news host. In this episode, Tom and Kyle dive deep with Will about the journey that shaped his worldview. They cover everything from ESPN hot takes and Fox News culture wars to the future of conservatism, media trust, masculinity, AI, and America’s place in a changing world. Candid, intellectual, and refreshingly honest, Will doesn’t shy away from anything.In This Episode[03:00] Small-Town Roots & Big Ideas[10:00] From Newspapers to TV[18:00] Law School & Conservative Thought[24:00] Populism & Disillusioned Youth[30:00] Rethinking Conservatism[38:00] America, AI & Masculinity[42:00] Rediscovering Faith[46:00] Trust in Media Today[53:00] What’s Next for Will Cain?Guest ResourcesFollow WillThe Will Cain ShowThanks to Our SponsorsClay Cooley AutomotiveArcis GolfLike and Subscribe🍏 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎧 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠📹 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Us⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠—Editing and Support by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Good Podcast Co.⁠