

Diabolical Lies
Katie Gatti Tassin & Caro Claire Burke
Smart. Sane. Unbearable. www.diabolicalliespod.com
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Nov 30, 2025 • 7min
Did Women Ruin the Workplace?
The discussion kicks off with a humorous take on the provocative question: Are women ruining workplaces? The hosts explore the concept of the 'Great Feminization' and its connection to societal decline. They dissect Helen Andrews's essay, scrutinizing its flawed arguments and reliance on dubious evidence. Contradictions in claims, such as women's declining workforce participation, reveal deeper issues in the discourse. With sardonic wit, they analyze how feminist hysteria is perceived as displacing reason in today's discussions.

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Nov 27, 2025 • 7min
BONUS: Olivia Nuzzi, Trump/Mamdani, & Where Caro and Katie Disagree
This conversation dives into the challenges writers face with Amazon's overwhelming influence on book sales. Insightful advice reveals how to better support authors through pre-orders and hardcover purchases. The hosts grapple with the persistent dominance of big platforms and their implications for indie bookstores. They passionately discuss the trade-offs writers navigate in retail while sharing practical tips for book buyers. The session ends on a lighter note, showcasing the hosts' humor and personal rapport.

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Nov 16, 2025 • 1h 35min
The Katie Episode
Katie Herzog, a personal finance writer and creator of Money with Katie, opens up about her journey of building a seven-figure brand and her decision to reclaim her intellectual property from Morning Brew. She shares how the pandemic shifted her career, the exhilarating early days of her venture, and the challenges of balancing growth with creative work. Notably, she discusses her political evolution and the pivotal moment that led her to pivot back to long-form writing, embracing uncertainty while celebrating her independence.

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Nov 2, 2025 • 2h 5min
"Ethical Consumption" & the History of "Selling Out"
Dive into the complexities of ethical consumption versus selling out in a capitalist world. The hosts discuss the origins of the phrase 'no ethical consumption under capitalism' and explore critiques of consumerism. They examine the impact of anti-litter campaigns that shifted blame to individuals and question if boycotts can truly affect corporations. Cultural shifts in the music industry are highlighted, alongside debates on artists performing for questionable regimes. The conversation wraps up with reflections on the enduring entanglement of commerce and culture.

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Oct 19, 2025 • 6min
How to Give Birth in America, Pt. 1
Explore the complexities of childbirth in America as hosts dive deep into its cultural and political implications. They provide a humorous yet insightful overview of childbirth anatomy and process. The conversation takes a turn when they discuss how governmental health messages, especially regarding acetaminophen and autism, influence pregnancy advice. A reading of a significant White House memo adds an intriguing layer to the discussion, highlighting the political nuances that affect expectant parents.

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Oct 9, 2025 • 3min
BONUS: Taylor Swift's Rumspringa, Reviewed
Caroline and Katie kick off a lively discussion, reminiscent of their early voice memo exchanges. They delve into why criticism of art is essential, emphasizing that it's okay to appreciate without constant debate. Hopes and curiosities for Taylor Swift's upcoming album take center stage, exploring fan expectations and reactions. They also tackle the frequency of Swift's mention in listener feedback and reflect on the delicate balance between fandom and critique, highlighting personal experiences with backlash for their views.

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Oct 5, 2025 • 2h 16min
Biblical Womanhood, MAGA Girlbosses, and the Useful Myth of "Tradition"
Charlie Kirk, a conservative commentator and founder of Turning Point USA, and Erica Kirk, a right-wing media personality, dive into the complex dynamics of financial responsibility and submission in marriage. They discuss the expectation that men must provide financially, linking masculinity to money. The conversation critiques traditional notions of marriage as a status symbol while examining how neoliberal economics shape conservative gender rhetoric. The episode challenges the myth of 'tradition,' revealing the historical roots of these family constructs.

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Sep 28, 2025 • 5min
BONUS: Charlie Kirk, Part Deux
Dive into a follow-up discussion filled with news updates and cultural insights. The hosts analyze Jimmy Kimmel's reinstatement and the fallout surrounding his affiliate boycotts. They dissect Trump's scathing Truth Social post, likening his persona to a mean-girl figure, and explore the implications of media consolidation through an antitrust lens. The conversation also touches on Sinclair’s demands for Kimmel’s airing, framing it as extortion. Overall, the dynamic highlights the importance of media standards and distribution in today's landscape.

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Sep 21, 2025 • 7min
Charlie Kirk & the End of Debate in America
The podcast dives into the controversial legacy of Charlie Kirk, exploring the polarized reactions to his death. It examines Jimmy Kimmel's comments, the fallout from media firings, and how political reprisals shape public discourse. The hosts discuss links between recent turmoil and a historical decline in political civility. They also tackle narratives around trans issues, accusations of left-wing violence, and the current state of societal collapse. It's a thought-provoking look at the ramifications of today's charged political climate.

Sep 7, 2025 • 2h 19min
Democrats Are Failing. What Comes After the Liberal Status Quo?
A sharp look at why centrist politics are flailing and what replaces the liberal status quo. They trace elite efforts to revive neoliberal ideas and critique a new media push for technocratic abundance. Local left wins and party gatekeeping get examined. The takeaway: grassroots pressure and ideological battles are reshaping political strategy.


