Diabolical Lies

The Katie Episode

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Nov 16, 2025
Katie Herzog, a personal finance writer and creator of Money with Katie, opens up about her journey of building a seven-figure brand and her decision to reclaim her intellectual property from Morning Brew. She shares how the pandemic shifted her career, the exhilarating early days of her venture, and the challenges of balancing growth with creative work. Notably, she discusses her political evolution and the pivotal moment that led her to pivot back to long-form writing, embracing uncertainty while celebrating her independence.
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ADVICE

Negotiate IP And Termination Terms

  • Get legal help and negotiate contract terms you don't understand, especially around IP and duration.
  • Prioritize clauses like termination and payment guarantees when exchanging ownership for security.
ANECDOTE

Sudden Exposure And Viral Boost

  • The Morning Brew announcement exposed Katie to millions and caused a sudden spike in followers and intense vulnerability.
  • An anonymous influencer's single story later produced even larger follower and revenue jumps.
INSIGHT

Public Feedback Becomes Noise

  • Public feedback and reviews become a distracting, focus-group-like pressure for creators.
  • Katie had to build psychological tools to separate creative work from relentless external opinion.
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