

CX Files
Mark Hillary and Peter Ryan
CX Files features your hosts, CX industry analysts Mark Hillary and Peter Ryan, speaking each week to leading analysts, thinkers, and practitioners focused on managing the Customer Experience (CX). In each episode Mark and Peter talk to their guests about the future of CX, the important trends, and what customers really expect from brands today.
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Mar 27, 2025 • 36min
Dave Rumble - Maistro - Using Gen AI To Find B2B Partners
Dave Rumble is Director and Executive Chair of the Maistro Group. Maistro has long been a specialist in helping companies with RFPs and vendor selection. The Maistro platform helps companies to make better sourcing decisons adn their database has very prescise details on thousands of suppliers. Maistro recently introduced the ability to have natural conversations with the database using generative AI, so B2B buyers can engage with the information in the database without needing to build complex queries. Our conversation came about because Forrester Research recently noted that 9/10 B2B buyers are now asking Gen AI for advice and help when selecting a supplier. Mark Hillary wrote an article exploring this and it was noted in the comments that tools like Maistro offer an advantage over the more general publicly available information on suppliers... Mark called Dave to explore how B2B buyers are changing and using AI to find CX suppliers. https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-rumble-4a4a09b/ https://www.maistro.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/original-human-created-content-more-essential-than-ever-hillary--1vi7f

Mar 20, 2025 • 32min
CCW Berlin 2025 Feedback - with Raya CX and CXHero
Peter Ryan recently attended the CCW Berlin show in Germany. He talked to a lot of people at the show and recorded a conversation with a couple of the CCW stars for their views on BPO in 2025 and what to look out for based on the show in Berlin... This episode featured Peter talking to: Sherif Kamel Poland GM @ Raya CX --- Rachel Poku Founder, CXHero https://www.ccw.eu/en/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-ryan-montreal/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/sherifmk/ https://rayacx.com/get-in-touch/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachelpoku/ https://cxhero.co/

Mar 17, 2025 • 21min
What Is Wrong With LinkedIn?
Mark and Peter take a diversion from the usual CX discussion to talk about LinkedIn. Why is it filled with garbage today and what can be done about it? Is there a way back for Microsoft to restore the function of the business networking tool? https://www.linkedin.com/in/markhillary/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-ryan-montreal/

Mar 13, 2025 • 35min
IWD 2025 - Women In CX In 2025
Last Saturday was International Women's Day 2025. To mark the occasion, Peter Ryan reached out to three leading women working in CX in three different global locations. Listen to his discussion with them about the challenges and opportunities for women in CX in 2025... ---- Samar ElShafie - Egypt Head of Commerical and Client Relations - Octopus Outsourcing https://www.linkedin.com/in/samar-elshafie/ https://octopusoutsourcing.com/ Sabrina Labonte - Canada Marketing Director, Laivly https://www.linkedin.com/in/sabrinalabonte/ https://laivly.com/ Sophia Mohammed - UK Client Parter, USMAART https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophia-mohammed-3a1b851b6/ https://usmaart.com/ ------ https://www.internationalwomensday.com/ https://medium.com/@markhillary/international-womens-day-and-the-challenge-to-dei-in-2025-262c4bd973a3

Mar 6, 2025 • 13min
Sergei Levteev - IBA Group - The Tech Infrastructure Supporting CX
Sergei Levteev is the Chairman and CEO of IBA Group. He is based in Prague in Czechia. IBA Group is a technology company with deep experience building and supporting IT infrastructure. They have managed cloud systems, AI, RPA, and are even supporting old mainframe tech. Mark Hillary called Sergei to talk about the IT infrastructure supporting CX. Sergei decided to respond to Mark using the ElevenLabs AI voice system - underlining some of the ideas around how AI can be used to create voice-based systems. https://elevenlabs.io/ https://ibagroupit.com/

Feb 27, 2025 • 32min
Audrey William - Ecosystm - AI In CX: The Main Blockers & Opportunities
Audrey William is Principal Advisor at Ecosystm. She is based between Sydney, Australia and Singapore. Audrey has several areas of research focus, including the Future of Work, Unified Communications, Video and Collaboration, Contact Center, CX, Outsourcing and Conversational AI. Mark Hillary called Audrey to talk about AI in CX - in particular what is happening on the ground in pilots, which are the main tech vendors to watch, and what are the difficulties or blockers that some companies are experiencing - it's not always out-of-the-box! https://www.linkedin.com/in/audrey-william-3a4a04/ https://www.ecosystm.io/

Feb 20, 2025 • 53min
Ian Jacobs - Opus Research - The Hype And Reality For AI In CX
Ian Jacobs is the Vice President and Lead Analyst at Opus Research. He is based in San Francisco, California, USA. In this conversation with Mark Hillary, Ian explores how BPO is being transformed by AI and asks if we are sometimes focusing too much on Gen AI? CX practitioners have traditionally focused on the customer-facing AI changes - the improvement in chatbots - but there are many other changes taking place inside the enterprise. Ian also talks about the pilots and experiments in AI that have worked and where more traditional CX is still working well and maybe doesn't need to change... https://www.linkedin.com/in/iangjacobs/ https://opusresearch.net/

Feb 13, 2025 • 38min
Sid Victor - Movate - Is Flexibility Essential For The Future Of BPO?
Sid Victor is the Senior Vice President and Head of Support Services at Movate. He is based in Frisco, Texas, USA. Sid has published his opinion around BPO flexibility on LinkedIn several times. He has made it clear that he feels the future is not human agents OR AI OR any other solution - it is a blend of all the best options and BPOs should be able to offer this blended solution. For example, should BPOs be capable of offering traditional BPO, Gig CX, and AI all under one roof? This is what Sid has been talking about for some time. The future for successful BPOs will need to be about more than just offering an automation service or a contact center. They need to offer a flexible mix of everything - building a CX solution using all these ingredients. Mark Hillary called Sid to find out more... https://www.linkedin.com/in/sid-victor-3355b73/ https://www.movate.com/

Feb 6, 2025 • 35min
Phil Fersht - HFS Research - Innovation In CX From AI To AGI
Phil Fersht is the CEO and Principal Analyst at HFS Research. He is based in Boston, Massachusetts, USA. He recently posted this 'AI continuum' on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/pfersht_rpa-genai-agentic-activity-7282865406917115904-5lrX Mark Hillary called Phil to talk about this and how AI is offering the opportunity for genuine innovation in CX and BPO. https://www.hfsresearch.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/pfersht/ --- March 2010 - Mark Hillary with Phil Fersht podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/phil-fersht-horses-for-sources/id216384010?i=1000404472875

Jan 30, 2025 • 27min
Gregorio Uglioni - CX Goalkeeper - CX Transformation That Hits The Back Of The Net!
Gregorio Uglioni is an Associate Partner at Forward. He is based in Zurich, Switzerland. Greg is focused on business transformation and service excellence. He is an outspoken commentator on LinkedIn about the CX and BPO industry in general and his online commentary led to Peter calling him for a conversation. Greg also hosts the CX Goalkeeper podcast so he is another CX podcaster! Greg's podcast focuses on using the analogy of how a football team (soccer) works together to achieve success and applies this to the CX environment. How can customers and brands both win when they think carefully about their CX strategy? https://cxgoalkeeper.com/podcast/ https://forwardwith.ch/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregorio-uglioni/


