Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner

Ambro Di Pilato, Founder and CEO of Netrevenue who builds sales teams for finance, tax, law, and insurance. He warns AI is replacing low-level sales, explains how Netrevenue replaced most SDR work with AI, and urges treating sales like a business. They discuss why tax and legal pay more, what top performers earn, and a five-year timeline to sharpen high-leverage skills.

Most people invest in sales training from someone who never actually sold at the level they want to reach. This episode unpacks why that gap is the hidden reason so many ambitious people stay stuck, and why the cost of inaction is almost always greater than the cost of learning. If you have been grinding without results or wondering why the skills you picked up online are not translating, this conversation will reframe how you think about investing in yourself.Jeremy Miner, founder of 7th Level and creator of the NEPQ methodology, and his business partner Cory Crump, break down the psychology behind why people resist investing in skills, the pattern recognition that separates top performers from everyone else, and why culture, not your offer, determines whether a company scales past $40 million. Built for anyone serious about sales psychology, high performance mindset, and business growth.Chapters: (00:00) Introduction(08:36) Founder Syndrome Nobody Talks About(20:11) Building for the Next Generation(26:06) Culture Is the Only Scaling Strategy(31:52) Why Your Trainer's Resume Matters(37:49) The Trust Recession in This Industry(43:07) Why He Thinks Like a Psychologist(48:11) The Cost of Waiting vs Investing(53:02) Mastery Is Not a Destination(58:32) Pattern Recognition Changes EverythingJeremy says most people hire trainers who never hit the level they teach. Drop a comment: have you ever checked your trainer's actual track record?Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI: https://7q.ai/ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-orgBook a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/Connect with Jeremy MinerYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremyminerInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

David Carpenter, a top sales leader and trainer in the insurance space, shares how high performers think and act. He explains why chasing money stalls progress, how the right mentor compresses growth, and the power of building leverage and documenting your journey. Short lessons on spotting bad environments, recruiting leaders, and committing to daily learning.

Anthony Vizzari, VP of Growth at 7th Level and seasoned sales closer, discusses pattern recognition, buyer psychology, and how identity shapes performance. He and Jeremy talk simplifying offers, avoiding overtraining, cultural selling differences, and why mastery comes from thousands of real calls. Expect stories about early failures, shifting tactics, and what separates elite closers from amateurs.

Greg O'Gallagher, founder of KinoBody and lifestyle-driven fitness entrepreneur, shares his movie-star physique approach. He champions progressive overload, low-volume high-intensity training, and stacking small wins. Topics include rejecting bodybuilding extremes, building confidence through consistent inputs, and balancing ambition with lasting health and purpose.

He smashed his own Lamborghini windshield in the middle of Miami to go viral. But that is not why he is winning. Spencer Kozej is a life insurance sales leader who built a virtual sales brand after dropping out of college and moving to Florida. He now recruits and develops young sales professionals by teaching communication, branding, and discipline. In this episode, Spencer explains how your environment shapes belief, why mastering sales guarantees leverage for life, and how to use attention strategically instead of chasing clout. He also shares how faith, accountability, and daily discipline helped him grow in an environment built on distraction. If you are young and serious about building income, influence, and skill, this conversation will challenge the way you think about your future. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction(01:15) Failing School and Questioning the Traditional Path(04:30) The Leap of Faith and Moving to Florida(08:10) Why Mentorship Collapses Time(12:05) Sales as Financial Security for Life(15:20) Using Psychology in Business and Relationships(18:10) Smashing the Lamborghini and Going Viral(20:10) Turning Attention into a Sales Funnel(25:00) Faith, Discipline, and Avoiding Distraction(30:50) Interested vs Committed to Success(33:40) Accountability and Building a Sales TeamAre you committed to mastering a skill that guarantees leverage… or are you still letting your environment decide your future? Leave your answer in the comments.Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI: https://7q.ai/waitlistThe exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-orgPrefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/Connect with Jeremy MinerYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremyminerInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52Connect with Spencer Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spencer.kozej/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SpencerKozej TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/discover/spencer-kozej

Selling feels hard when you think your job is to convince people. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Myron Golden, sales expert, business coach, and stage speaker known for helping entrepreneurs produce multi million dollar results, to talk about why persuasion and convincing are not the same thing. Myron shares how he went 18 months without making a single sale before learning how identity, belief systems, and service change everything in the sales process. They talk about why objections are usually created before they are ever spoken, how to become findable to buyers who already want what you offer, the four types of buyers that determine your income ceiling, and why money becomes the byproduct once mastery becomes the focus. If you want selling to feel natural instead of forced, this conversation will change the way you see it.Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (00:48) Myron’s Entry Into Sales And Early Struggles(03:02) Why Network Marketing Fails To Teach Selling(07:56) Mindset + Skillset + Toolset Framework(12:10) Transitioning Into Selling From Stage(19:00) The $1.2M In One Hour Client Story(21:06) The Four Types Of Buyers Explained(30:03) Preventing Objections Before They Form(36:27) Becoming Findable To Ready BuyersGot a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : https://7q.ai/waitlistThe exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-orgPrefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/Connect with Jeremy MinerYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminerInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52Connect with Myron Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/themyrongolden/ Website: https://myrongolden.com/ YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@MyronGolden TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@myrongoldenofficial Listen to the Next Level PodcastApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/si/podcast/next-level-podcast-with-jeremy-miner/id1534365100Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2kNDyUR7fz9SqBr9iGwfwV

Most people get told “no” and spiral. Giuliano Massarelli gets told “no” and turns it into content, attention, and sales. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Giuliano Massarelli, known as The Wolf of Insurance, to break down how he sells life insurance through his DMs, why he posts at extreme volume to stay omnipresent, and how he built momentum fast by treating selling like a skills game. They talk tonality, verbal pacing, using energy to control emotional states, and the simple mirror and smile habit that changes how you sound on the phone. If you want to build a personal brand that becomes a real pipeline, and learn how to stay confident through rejection, this episode is the playbook. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (01:33) How an 18 Year Old Got Into Sales Fast(04:01) The Content Strategy That Took Off. Rejection Then Dance Then Post(05:23) Omnipresence. Posting 20 to 30 Times a Day to Own a Niche(07:21) Tonality and Verbal Pacing. Where He Learned It(09:59) Selling Is Something You Do For People. Protecting Families(24:39) The Mirror and Smile Method. Being “On Stage” in Every CallGot a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : https://7q.ai/waitlistThe exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-orgPrefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/Connect with Jeremy MinerYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminerInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52Connect with Juliano Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/julianomass/?hl=en Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliano-massarelli-818b8534b/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Wolfofinsurance Listen to the Next Level PodcastApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/si/podcast/next-level-podcast-with-jeremy-miner/id1534365100Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2kNDyUR7fz9SqBr9iGwfwV

Most founders think success comes from having the right idea. Yash Daftary learned early that it comes from knowing how to sell, persuade, and build trust at scale. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Yash Daftary, founder of FanBasis, a digital commerce platform powering creators, entrepreneurs, and online businesses selling products, services, and memberships worldwide. Yash breaks down why his company pivoted away from celebrity-driven fan experiences, what he learned from watching real operators outperform big names, and why payment systems and customer behavior reveal the true quality of a business. You’ll hear Yash’s perspective on why sales is the most important skill a founder can develop, how experience and repetition sharpen judgment, and what it takes to build something that lasts beyond short-term wins. This episode is for entrepreneurs who want to build a real businesses in the modern digital economy. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction(01:44) What FanBasis Actually Is and Why It Scales(03:56) Why Celebrity Models Failed and Digital Products Won(06:03) Growing Up Entrepreneurial and Learning Through Experience(09:22) Scaling Problems, Product Quality, and Real Metrics That Matter(14:17) Why Sales and Persuasion Are the Most Important Skills(20:09) The Trust Collapse, Rising Ad Costs, and What Wins Now(25:10) The Amazon for the Internet Economy Vision(27:03) Legacy, Fulfillment, and Why Goalposts Keep MovingGot a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : https://7q.ai/waitlistThe exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-orgPrefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/Connect with Jeremy MinerYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminerInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52Connect with Yash Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yashdaftary/?hl=en Fan Basis Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fanbasis/?hl=en X: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ydaftary/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ydaftary Website: https://www.fanbasis.com/

Information is everywhere, which means it no longer separates you from your competitors. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Icon Becker, founder of Klevr Events, a global events company that has fulfilled over 100 events, served thousands of attendees, and generated over $11M for clients from the stage. Icon breaks down why experience has become the only real value add left in modern business, how small details can cost companies massive opportunities, and why live, in-person connection builds trust faster than content ever can. This conversation is for entrepreneurs, operators, and leaders who want to stand out, build real loyalty, and create experiences that customers remember long after the transaction ends. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction(03:35) The PB&J Moment That Changed Icon’s Perspective(05:44) How The Pandemic Forced A Complete Business Pivot(12:28) Experience, Trust, and The Collapse of Online Credibility(15:12) Compressing Years of Trust Into a 3-Day Experience(16:28) What Steve Jobs Understood About Experience(24:52) The Near-Death Moment That Changed How Icon Takes RiskWhat part of your customer or client experience would you improve first if you wanted to stand out instantly? Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : https://7q.ai/waitlistThe exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-orgPrefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/Connect with Jeremy MinerYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminerInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52Connect with Icon Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iconicbecker/ Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/iconicbecker/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@IconicBecker/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iconicbecker/ Website: https://www.klevr.events/