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Jonathan & Brad explore the world of Financial Independence. They discuss reducing expenses, crushing debt, building passive income streams through online businesses and real estate. How to pay off debt, Crush your grocery bill and travel the world for free. No topic is too big or small as long as it speeds up the process of reaching financial independence.
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Aug 31, 2020 • 48min
You Are More Than Your Financial Capital | Laura Oldanie
Most people pursuing financial independence fixate on one type of capital — the financial kind — while seven other forms sit untapped and undervalued. Laura Aldani from Rich and Resilient Living joins Brad and Jonathan to flip that script, explaining how permaculture principles apply to personal finance and why building social, intellectual, experiential, spiritual, living, cultural, material, and financial capital creates a more resilient life than a fat investment account alone.
Key Topics & Timestamps
[00:01:43] Introduction to Forms of Capital
Laura introduces a holistic approach to wealth through various types of capital.
[00:04:01] Understanding Permaculture
Laura explains permaculture as a design science that can be applied to finances, promoting sustainability and resilience.
[00:08:44] Socially Responsible Investing
Discussion on local and meaningful investment opportunities that go beyond traditional stock market options.
[00:17:04] Eight Forms of Capital
Laura outlines the eight forms of capital:
Financial Capital
Material Capital
Intellectual Capital
Experiential Capital
Social Capital
Living Capital
Cultural Capital
Spiritual Capital
[00:19:26] Mutual Aid and Time Banks
Explanation of mutual aid networks and time banking as forms of social capital that build community resilience.
[00:25:24] Time as Irreplaceable Capital
Importance of time as a finite and invaluable resource that should be prioritized.
[00:31:03] Eliminating Waste
Insights on reducing wastage to save money and improve efficiency in life.
[00:35:00] Quality of Life vs. Financial Figures
Living a fulfilling life rather than focusing only on accumulating wealth.
Key Quotes
[00:27:26] "Financial capital is just a tool to access essential forms of wealth."
[00:25:24] "Time is an irreplaceable resource; make every moment count."
[00:31:03] "Eliminate waste to save money and resources."
[00:35:00] "Prioritize quality of life over mere financial figures."
Resources
Rich and Resilient Living
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Aug 24, 2020 • 50min
Overcoming And Battling Financial Abuse
You're not paranoid if someone really is controlling your money. That gut feeling you've been ignoring? It might be your most reliable data point. Financial abuse doesn't announce itself with a dramatic confrontation—it creeps in slowly, decision by decision, until you wake up one day realizing you can't access your own bank account or explain where the money goes. Rachael Partleton learned this the hard way, and what she discovered about the systems supposedly designed to help victims is even more disturbing than the abuse itself.
Financial abuse manifests as a form of control that can profoundly affect the victim's life and choices. Rachael's story exemplifies how subtle forms of manipulation can escalate over time, leading to significant emotional and financial damage. She recounts her experiences in a controlling relationship where her partner exerted control over their finances, making her feel disempowered. As she disentangled herself from this situation, Rachael faced a grueling legal battle that highlighted systemic shortcomings in the systems meant to support victims. She now works on raising awareness about financial abuse while advocating for legal reforms to protect victims.
Introduction to Financial Abuse [00:00:50]
Rachael's Backstory [00:03:01]
The Nature of Control [00:04:42]
Recognizing Financial Abuse [00:09:15]
Be aware of behaviors that control or limit your financial independence
Trust your instincts and feelings regarding financial matters
Look for control over financial decisions, lack of awareness about bills, and manipulation regarding money matters
"Trust your instincts; they are crucial in financial matters." [00:09:15]
"Financial abuse is akin to psychological warfare." [00:16:55]
Systemic Issues and Legal Challenges [00:20:58]
Legal frameworks often fail to protect victims of financial and emotional abuse
Many structures that should be supporting victims bring inadequate justice
"Systems designed to protect often fail victims of abuse." [00:25:34]
Empowerment and Action Steps [00:32:19]
If you find yourself in a controlling financial relationship, reach out to professionals for help
Start by following your instincts, seeking legal advice, and slowly taking back responsibility for your finances
Empowerment comes from reclaiming your voice and addressing feelings of shame
"Regaining your voice is crucial for empowerment after abuse." [00:36:03]
Advocacy and Change [00:42:26]
Rachael is actively working to change laws to recognize and protect against financial abuse
Advocacy efforts are underway to make financial abuse a recognized crime, providing more protection and recourse
"Be the change you want to see in systemic injustices." [00:29:19]
Terminology:
Financial Abuse: A form of control where one partner exerts power over financial decisions and resources [00:09:15]
Coercive Control: A pattern of behaviors aimed at controlling a partner, often through manipulation and intimidation [00:22:20]
Talata: A legal term referring to property law, specifically relevant in cohabiting situations [00:21:40]
How to Reach Rachael:
Instagram: Nebu_Wealth
Blog: Rachael Partleton's Blog
Related Resources:
Surviving Economic Abuse [00:29:19]
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Jul 31, 2020 • 46min
239 | Future-Proofing Your Career in the New Economy
A traditional four-year degree might cost you $100,000 and four years of your life—but Google just announced they'll treat their new six-month online certificates as equivalent to a college degree for hiring purposes. The career landscape is shifting beneath our feet, and the old gatekeepers who controlled access to opportunity are losing their power.
Future-proofing your career means understanding that skills now outweigh traditional credentials. With online certification programs from major companies and the democratization of content creation, you can build what's called a "talent stack"—a combination of diverse, complementary skills acquired through low-cost or free resources. The episode shares success stories from community members who've taken control of their financial futures through strategic skill development and entrepreneurial ventures, demonstrating that autonomy and action matter more than waiting for institutional permission.
Chapter Markers:
[00:00:00] Introduction to Future-Proofing Careers
[00:15:02] The Role of Skills Over Degrees
[00:15:31] Leveraging Certification Programs
[00:29:14] Success Stories from the Community
[00:43:01] Wrap Up and Next Steps
Key Quotes:
"2020 is the easiest time ever to start a business." [00:05:18]
"The freedom of information … it has never been easier." [00:05:09]
"Gone are the days of gatekeepers controlling access." [00:05:10]
"You can control your future with your choices." [00:06:53]
Key Takeaways:
Identify skills you can learn online for free to build your talent stack
Start a business venture without waiting for permission from a gatekeeper
Leverage your current skills to explore freelancing or consulting
Engage with a support community for accountability in your financial journey
Consider online certification programs as an alternative to traditional degrees
Action Items:
Join the FI 101 course starting September 1st to embark on your financial journey. [00:43:52]
Related Resources:
FI 101 Course
Key Terms:
Talent Stack: A unique blend of complementary skills that enhance one's career opportunities. [00:06:25]
Gatekeepers: Individuals or institutions that control access and opportunities within various fields. [00:05:10]
Related Episodes:
Episode 117: Bradley Rice Update [00:18:01]
Episode 024R: How to Optimize the ESPP [00:31:34]
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Jul 27, 2020 • 59min
238 | How to Test Out of College While You're Still in High School
Gerry Born, the Millionaire Educator, discusses strategizing college through online classes, dual enrollment, and CLEP Testing. They explore alternative ways to earn college credits, guaranteed transfer partnerships, and saving strategies for financial independence.

Jul 24, 2020 • 45min
237 | How to Build Your Talent Stack for Career Growth
Most people think they need to be world-class at one thing to succeed. But here's what actually creates opportunity: combining skills you're merely good at in ways no one else has. This approach to personal growth—called talent stacking—turns ordinary abilities into extraordinary advantages.
Key Topics
Introduction to Talent Stacking [00:00:00]
Definition and importance of a talent stack in enhancing personal and professional opportunities.
Personal Updates [00:01:01]
Brad shares news about his wife obtaining U.S. citizenship.
Learning Piano in 21 Days [00:05:00]
Discussion on Jacques Hopkins' innovative piano teaching methods and the concept of mastering songs quickly.
Teaching and Imposter Syndrome [00:08:05]
The idea that one does not need to be an expert to teach effectively.
Information Allocation [00:20:00]
How altering the sources of information consumed can improve learning and personal growth.
Red X Month Concept [00:32:07]
Introduction to the Red X Month as a time for personal enjoyment and reflection.
Mailbag: Asset Allocation [00:34:12]
Listener question on managing asset allocation across different investment platforms.
Frugal Wins of the Week [00:43:20]
A listener shares a success story in negotiating with a credit card company.
Weekly Challenge [00:44:29]
Listeners are encouraged to reflect on their skills and start building their talent stack.
Key Takeaways
Building a talent stack by focusing on skills rather than degrees is essential for finding unique personal opportunities.
Effective teaching doesn't require being a world-class expert; relatability can enhance the learning experience.
Information allocation is crucial; being mindful of the sources of knowledge can lead to significant growth.
Taking time for personal reflection, such as during a Red X Month, can rejuvenate and inspire new pursuits.
Action Items
Map out your skills and identify areas for improvement [00:44:46]
Evaluate the sources of information you are consuming [00:20:00]
Plan your next Red X Month and outline your goals for that time [00:32:07]
Notable Quotes
"Varied skills enable unique connections in your learning." [00:15:43]
"Skills, not degrees, drive real value." [00:10:37]
"Mastering the art of learning is essential for success." [00:24:00]
"Consider what a red X month would mean for your life." [00:33:15]
Related Resources
How to Fail at Almost Everything and Still Win Big by Scott Adams [00:15:43]
The Biggest Bluff by Maria Konnikova [00:24:00]
Thinking in Bets by Annie Duke [00:24:00]
Terminology
Talent Stack: A combination of various skills that enhances uniqueness and capabilities [00:14:11]
Information Allocation: The practice of assessing and adjusting the type of information consumed for personal development [00:20:00]
Red X Month: A month designated for breaks from work to focus on personal joys and family time [00:32:07]
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Jul 22, 2020 • 50min
236 | The Intersection of Fitness and Financial Independence
The skills that build wealth are the same skills that build health. Both require replacing unconscious bad habits with intentional good ones, both reward long-term thinking over quick fixes, and both demand you recognize the triggers that derail you. Brad and Jonathan share how their financial independence journeys reshaped their approach to fitness—and why momentum in one area creates momentum in the other.
Key Topics Discussed
Introduction to Fitness and Financial Independence [00:00:00]
How fitness parallels financial independence.
Personal Transformations [00:01:00]
Jonathan and Brad's personal journeys, focusing on how self-improvement in finance led to health improvements and vice versa.
The Power of Habits [00:06:00]
Importance of habit formation over willpower.
Identifying Negative Triggers [00:16:00]
Recognizing triggers that lead to unhealthy habits in diet and spending.
Creating Sustainable Goals [00:19:00]
Establishing realistic and achievable goals for both fitness and financial health.
The 80/20 Principle [00:24:28]
How small, consistent changes yield substantial results.
Actionable Steps for Improvement [00:40:20]
Takeaway actions listeners can implement immediately for financial and health improvements.
Key Quotes
"Master your finances and you'll master your fitness." [00:39:30]
"Transform your mindset: it's not a sprint, it's a lifelong journey." [00:02:34]
"Success isn't about willpower; it's about forming habits that lead to lasting change." [00:09:41]
"Prioritize nutrition—great diets support fitness results more than workouts." [00:30:24]
"Unraveling unhealthy habits reveals the energy you can regain." [00:37:17]
Speaker Highlights
Jonathan Mendonsa: Shares his personal journey connecting fitness and financial goals. [00:01:00]
Brad Barrett: Discusses the importance of self-awareness and long-term habits in personal transformation. [00:07:06]
Action Items
Identify and cut out one unhealthy food or habit this week. [00:40:20]
Set a goal to limit eating late at night. [00:42:35]
Related Resources
ChooseFI Health Challenge: choosefi.com/healthchallenge [00:49:04]
Quartuccio Top 50 Meals: choosefi.com/meals [00:35:35]
Related Episode
Health Challenge: Episode 236 [00:49:04]
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Jul 17, 2020 • 56min
What is in the Index, and Q&A with JL Collins
The Barrett kids turned their Lego hobby into an eBay business—and discovered market inefficiency before they could spell it. When buyers overpay for certain figurines while undervaluing others, that's not just a kid's pricing mistake; it's the marketplace at work. Their parents seized the moment to teach supply and demand, negotiation, and yes, handling failure when listings don't sell.
The Barrett family's Lego business venture teaches practical lessons about money management and market analysis. Through selling on eBay, the children learn to navigate supply and demand, pricing strategies, and the concept of market inefficiency. Their journey reflects essential life skills such as resilience and critical thinking, especially when faced with setbacks in their selling attempts.
The discussion shifts to timing in the stock market, emphasizing how investors can capitalize on market downturns. Insights into index funds and the criteria for companies to be included in major indices like the S&P 500 provide foundational knowledge for informed investing. The episode concludes with highlights from a live session with JL Collins, offering wisdom on long-term investing strategies.
Key Topics Discussed
Lego Business Lessons [00:02:00]
The Barrett children engage in a Lego business
Learnings about marketplace dynamics, pricing negotiation, and market inefficiency
Market Timing Discussion [00:15:00]
Importance of timing when buying and selling
Strategies to maximize sales during high buyer interest
Insights on Index Funds [00:20:00]
Explanation of index funds and their criteria for inclusion in major indices like the S&P 500
Understanding market capitalization and liquidity requirements
Live Session Highlights with JL Collins [00:36:00]
Key takeaways on long-term investing strategies amid market volatility
The significance of consistent investment over time
Notable Quotes
"Understanding value in a marketplace is crucial." [00:03:45]
"Embrace failures as stepping stones to success." [00:10:47]
"Investing successfully often hinges on timing." [00:15:23]
"Maximize your sales when buyer interest peaks." [00:15:23]
"Self-awareness is key in investing." [00:46:28]
Resources
M1 Finance [00:35:51]
JL Collins' Book - The Simple Path to Wealth [00:36:04]
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Jul 15, 2020 • 1h 10min
233 | How to Build Your Network: Networking Strategies for Success
Jordan Harbinger, host of The Jordan Harbinger Show and a former lawyer, dives deep into the art of networking. He shares his personal journey from introversion to mastering social dynamics, illustrating how networking can unlock career success. Listeners learn the importance of rekindling old connections and the value of genuine relationships over transactional ones. Jordan also highlights strategies for overcoming setbacks through a diverse network, emphasizing mutual support and the power of collaborative relationships for professional growth.

Jul 13, 2020 • 1h 6min
232 | Raising Your Money-Savvy Family For Next Generation Financial Independence
Most parents spend years teaching kids to clean their room but never explain how money actually works. Doug and Carol Nordman discovered a better approach through trial, error, and honest conversation — and the insights from raising a financially independent adult might surprise you.
Doug and his daughter Carol share practical lessons from their new book on teaching financial independence to the next generation. Through methods like the Kid 401k, profit-sharing for education, and age-appropriate money conversations, they demonstrate how to build financial literacy without forcing it on unwilling kids.
Key Takeaways
Start Early: Teaching kids about money should begin early through fun and engaging experiences. [00:15:12]
Progressive Exposure: Gradually increase children's financial responsibilities as they grow. [00:20:29]
Kid 401k: Introducing a structured way for kids to save and learn about finances. [00:23:02]
Profit Sharing: Creating incentives for children to be good stewards of their educational funds. [00:50:00]
Encourage Mistakes: Allowing children to make financial mistakes is vital for their learning process. [00:23:43]
Open Conversations: Maintain an open dialogue about money to remove the stigma surrounding it. [00:18:02]
Chapters
Introduction to Financial Independence [00:00:00]
Interview with Doug and Carol [00:02:16]
Child's Perspective on Money [00:06:54]
Creating Positive Experiences with Money [00:17:04]
The Concept of the Kid 401k [00:23:02]
Profit Sharing in Education Fund [00:50:00]
Conclusion and Key Takeaways [01:05:23]
Notable Quotes
"Freedom of choice is key to financial independence." — Doug Nordman [00:14:41]
"Financial independence is about life energy, not just money." — Doug Nordman [00:56:45]
"Empowering kids with financial lessons builds their independence." — Doug Nordman [01:05:14]
Action Items
Introduce an allowance system to your children as a means of managing finances. [00:24:10]
Have regular discussions about money's role in daily decisions. [00:24:54]
Integrate discussions about money into daily activities, such as grocery shopping. [00:18:40]
Discuss opportunity cost through relatable examples. [00:56:33]
Resources
For more information on this episode and to pre-order the book, visit choosefi.com/nextgen
Terminology
Financial Independence: The state of having sufficient income or wealth to live without working. [00:02:16]
Kid 401k: A financial plan for children that teaches them how to save and manage money. [00:23:02]
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Jul 10, 2020 • 50min
231 | Budget Meal Planning and Creative Cooking Tips
Most people think casseroles are just a way to disguise food you're trying to get rid of. Brad and Jonathan flip that assumption, showing how a simple framework—protein, starch, vegetable, binder—turns random leftovers into intentional meals that cut grocery bills and food waste. They cover the leftover casserole challenge, adapting 529 plans when college isn't a given, teaching kids networking skills early, and why acquiring marketable skills matters more than chasing degrees.
Key Topics
Leftovers and Casseroles: Brad and Jonathan challenge the stigma around leftover casseroles, encouraging listeners to use kitchen staples creatively and minimize food waste.
Healthy Wage Bet: Jonathan shares his weight loss challenge and how gamification supports fitness goals.
College Planning: Flexibility in college savings strategies and the potential benefits of alternative educational paths.
Networking: Building relationships for personal and professional growth.
Timestamps & Key Insights
[00:01:00] Birthday Celebrations: Brad shares his birthday weekend at the pool and a family hike in Shenandoah National Park.
[00:03:00] Casserole Discussion: Jonathan prompts a conversation about the stigma surrounding casseroles and encourages creative meal prep.
"There's a predictable series of ingredients in certain categories that lead to something delicious." [00:06:17]
[00:12:01] Small Lifestyle Changes: Brad discusses how small, consistent changes lead to significant results.
"Every time that you go out and take a walk, instead of sitting on the couch, even if that walk is four houses, right? It doesn't have to be 10 miles to count..."
[00:18:00] College Planning: Adapting college savings strategies and the shift in approach regarding 529 plans.
[00:30:31] Skills Over Degrees: The value of skill acquisition over traditional degrees in preparing children for the future.
"Skills over degrees."
[00:35:00] Networking Essentials: The importance of nurturing relationships and connections for future opportunities.
"Networking is not spammy; it's about building relationships." [00:38:02]
Action Items
Try making a casserole from leftovers this week [00:07:29]
Review your current college savings strategy and adjust as necessary [00:24:00]
Reach out to a contact in your network to strengthen professional relationships [00:38:02]
Resources
Healthy Wage [00:18:48]
Wins of the Week
Listener Andy secured a 17% raise after negotiating his salary, inspired by the show's previous discussions on salary negotiation strategies.
Terminology
529 Plans: Tax-advantaged savings plans designed to encourage saving for future education costs [00:21:17]
Casserole: A dish made by baking various ingredients together, often made with leftovers [00:03:16]
Networking: The action or process of interacting with others to exchange information and develop professional or social contacts [00:38:02]
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