Product Talk
Products That Count
Produced by Products That Count, a 501(c)3 nonprofit that helps everyone build great products, this podcast is an award-winning show by and for product minds, with millions of downloads and a 5-star rating on most major platforms. Each of the 300+ episodes features a product leader interviewing another product leader and exploring what it takes to build great products. Recent ones feature the Chief Product Officers of Brex, Glassdoor, Experian and more.
About Us: Products that Count is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that helps everyone build great products. It celebrates product excellence through coveted Awards that inspire 500,000+ product managers and honor great products and the professionals responsible for their success. It accelerates the career and rise to the C-suite of 30% of all Product Managers globally by providing exceptional programming – including award-winning podcasts and popular newsletters – for free. It acts as a trusted advisor to all CPOs at Fortune 1000, and publishes key insights from innovative companies, like Capgemini, SoFi, and Amplitude, that turn product success into business success. Learn more at ProductsThatCount.com.
About Us: Products that Count is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that helps everyone build great products. It celebrates product excellence through coveted Awards that inspire 500,000+ product managers and honor great products and the professionals responsible for their success. It accelerates the career and rise to the C-suite of 30% of all Product Managers globally by providing exceptional programming – including award-winning podcasts and popular newsletters – for free. It acts as a trusted advisor to all CPOs at Fortune 1000, and publishes key insights from innovative companies, like Capgemini, SoFi, and Amplitude, that turn product success into business success. Learn more at ProductsThatCount.com.
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Mar 27, 2026 • 42min
Giggso Co-Founder on Responsible AI Governance at Scale
Ravi Venugopal, visionary AI leader and co-founder of Giggso, builds secure, scalable AI for regulated industries. He discusses governance as a necessary guardrail, why generative AI needs human oversight, observability for detecting drift and incidents, and frameworks for when to assist, augment, or automate. He also covers securing AI agents and upskilling teams for an AI-native future.
Mar 25, 2026 • 25min
Microsoft Product Lead on Building AI-Powered Customer Service That Actually Works
Madhuri Somara, a Microsoft product leader building AI-powered customer service and case management solutions. She talks about automating routine work while keeping humans for judgment and empathy. She explains designing for resolution speed, surfacing transparent AI reasoning, and handling messy, high-stakes service environments.
Mar 23, 2026 • 43min
Automating Every PM Tasks: What We Learned (Descript CEO Laura Burkhauser)
Can product management be fully automated with AI, and what happens if you try? In this podcast hosted by Hoda Mehr, Co-founder and CEO of Up My Mojo and a Board Member at Products That Count, Descript CEO Laura Burkhauser shares how her team experimented with automating nearly 100% of the product management workflow using AI. She discusses the surprising results of that experiment, how AI is changing the role of product managers, and why the future of product work may look very different from the processes teams rely on today.
Mar 18, 2026 • 43min
PolyGone Systems CEO & Co-Founder on Removing Microplastics and Improving Planetary Health with Design Thinking
Can design thinking and partnerships accelerate climate solutions at the pace the world now demands? The scale and urgency of the transformation required to fight climate change has never been more clear. Building hardware and software products, acquiring the funding and creating a diverse community to enhance talent capacity and to drive innovation, is essential to tackling this global environmental crisis. In this podcast, host Silicon Valley Bank (a division of First Citizens Bank) Climate Tech & Sustainability SVP Maggie Wong will be interviewing PolyGone Systems CEO & Co-Founder Nathaniel Banks to discuss the use of design thinking and partnerships to remove and recover microplastics across bodies of water, the balance of product iteration and customer testing, and and importance of education of a problem and relevant solutions to facilitate adoption
Mar 16, 2026 • 38min
AI Isn't Breaking Work, We Are
AI isn't breaking work, we are. So what actually needs to change? In this episode of the Product Talk podcast, host Denise Hemke sits down with product leader Sriram Iyer to explore why today's workplace crisis has less to do with AI and more to do with culture, trust, and leadership clarity. Drawing on decades of experience across platforms, AI products, and scaling organizations, Sriram unpacks how product roles are collapsing, why durable careers now require lifelong learning and generalist skills, and how a growing trust deficit is undermining teams. From the "70/70/70" career framework to practical ways leaders can rebuild trust and clarity, this episode is a must-listen for product managers and leaders navigating change without losing their humanity.
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Mar 9, 2026 • 34min
Walmart Principal Product Lead on AI, Innovation & Outcome-Driven Strategy
Parul Jain, Principal Product Manager in Product Strategy and Innovation at Walmart, blends product, strategy and AI experience across retail and e-commerce. She talks about outcome-focused planning that reshapes team behavior. She explains making innovation repeatable with a stage-gated pipeline. She outlines practical, human-centered uses of generative AI for product operations.
Feb 23, 2026 • 56min
How to Avoid Being Another Failed AI Project: AI Architect & Strategy Lead
Greg Nudelman, Product and UX leader with 16+ years in AI and creator of the Snowball Sprint, shares frameworks for reducing AI project risk. He covers why many AI initiatives fail, how to frame the right use cases, build fast thin prototypes with real data, and restructure teams and processes to escape POC purgatory.
Feb 18, 2026 • 41min
Terrament Co-Founder on Leveraging Existing Technologies to Scale Long Term Energy Storage
Eric Chaves, co-founder and COO of Terrament, is an engineer-designer who built a gravity-based long-duration energy storage concept. He discusses a gravity train system with shaft rails and generators, using proven mining tech and modular, factory-built components. He covers pilot and scale timelines, hiring the right co-founder, and why diverse teams and data centers are key early opportunities.
Feb 16, 2026 • 31min
Decision Alpha CEO on Behavioral Economics and the Future of Pricing in the AI Era
How should product leaders rethink pricing in an AI-driven world where value, speed, and automation are constantly shifting? In this podcast hosted by EY Platform Operations Lead Justin Leibow, Decisionalpha CEO Etinosa Agbonlahor speaks on behavioral economics and the evolving psychology of pricing. She explores how companies can move beyond cost-plus models, design pricing as a strategic feature, and adapt monetization strategies as AI reshapes outcomes, efficiency, and customer expectations.
Jan 30, 2026 • 60min
Apollo.io CPO on Why What Got You to $40M Won't Get You to $200M
Bela Stepanova, Chief Product Officer who scaled product and teams through hypergrowth, shares practical scaling stories. She explores why playbooks fail past $40M and the mindset shifts needed. Topics include avoiding silos, rethinking roadmaps, business-minded product decisions, non-negotiable technical foundations, and how AI alters product roles.
