Time Sensitive

Shohei Shigematsu, Japanese-born, New York–based partner leading OMA’s NYC studio, known for the New Museum extension and Casa Wabi pavilion. He talks about making “memorable space,” designing buildings that feel city-like and open-ended. They explore museum-as-community, collaborations with artists and fashion, and how cultural identity and craft shape unexpected, long-lasting architecture.

Over six decades and counting, the postmodern choreographer and dancer Lucinda Childs has built an exceptional, category-defining body of work grounded in a style that draws as much from “pedestrian,” everyday movements as it does from her foundational ballet training. Emerging out of the 1960s Judson Dance Theater in New York City, Childs founded her namesake company in 1973 and has created more than 50 works since. This year will see two major New York presentations of her pieces—the first, from March 14–15, 2026, at the Guggenheim as part of Van Cleef & Arpels’s Dance Reflections Festival, will restage five of her early dances, most of them silent; the second, titled “Momentary Reprise,” will be showcased at Bard College’s Fisher Center from June 26–28 and include her collaborations with the likes of Frank Gehry, Philip Glass, and Robert Wilson. On this episode—our Season 13 opener—Childs reflects on her various experimental collaborations with Glass and Wilson; her profound perspectives on time through the lens of choreography and performance; and how she has remained unapologetically steadfast in refining her highly distinctive approach to dance. Special thanks to our Season 13 presenting partner, L’ÉCOLE, School of Jewelry Arts. Show notes: Lucinda Childs [06:23] Philip Glass [12:46] Merce Cunningham Dance Company [10:02] John Cage [12:17] “Pastime” (1963) [12:36] Judson Dance Theater [13:19] Yvonne Rainer [14:04] Robert Ellis Dunn [15:34] “Calico Mingling” (1973) [15:38] “Untitled Trio” (1973) [17:01] Babette Mangolte [17:29] “Reclining Rondo” (1975) [17:29] Robert Morris [29:44] Hanya Holm [22:59] “Radial Courses” (1976) [22:08] “Katema” (1978) [32:30] “Shoulder” (1964) [37:44] Robert Wilson [37:44] Einstein on the Beach (1976) [33:59] Susan Sontag [33:59] Against Interpretation (1966) [34:28] Marguerite Duras [36:34] “Description (of a Description)” (2000) [46:07] “Dance” (1979) [48:36] “Available Light” (1983)

Hans Ulrich Obrist, a prominent Swiss curator and artistic director of the Serpentine Galleries, shares his vibrant journey through the art world. He discusses the significance of the Serpentine Pavilion and its role in showcasing emerging architects. Obrist emphasizes the importance of 'promenadology'—the art of strolling—for fostering spontaneous cultural encounters. He reflects on his recording practices with artists, insights gained from interviewing elders, and the transformative powers of art to liberate time, encouraging us to embrace diverse temporalities.

Jennie C. Jones, a prominent visual and sound artist, discusses the influence of music and pauses on her artistic practice. She shares her experiences curating exhibitions that celebrate underrepresented Black musicians and their connections to minimalism and jazz. Jennie dives into her creative process, exploring the concept of deep listening and how it shapes her work. She also reflects on merging sound with architectural spaces and highlights her upcoming rooftop installation at the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Her insights on art, sound, and cultural narratives are both profound and engaging.

Noah Horowitz, the CEO of Art Basel and art historian, explores the evolution of this global art fair from its Swiss roots to an international phenomenon. He passionately discusses how Art Basel acts as a cultural catalyst, shaping the art market and engaging diverse global communities. Horowitz shares insights on the economics of art, connecting historical patronage to today's market dynamics. He also touches on the rise of digital art and how fairs meet modern collector motivations while envisioning a vibrant future for Art Basel.

Theaster Gates, a renowned multidisciplinary artist and cultural organizer, shares his insights on art and community development. He discusses his transformative work in Chicago, creating third spaces for social engagement. Gates reflects on his artistry rooted in music and his experiences in Japan, particularly his connections to Tokoname potters. He emphasizes culture's role in stabilizing neighborhoods and the importance of his Land School project. With themes of urban theory and cultural heritage, Gates weaves together personal narratives and artistic visions.

Jay Osgerby, British industrial designer and co-founder of Barber Osgerby, reflects on craft, materiality, and timeless objects. He discusses projects like the Olympic torch and Bellhop lamp. Conversations focus on longevity, memory in objects, working with makers and factories, and how AI could sit alongside handcraft to shape future design.

For the James Beard Award–winning writer and culinary historian Michael W. Twitty, kitchens provide a multitude of significant purposes that stretch far into the past and carry through to the present. Beyond being places where people cook, share, and eat food, they also serve as vital spaces in which to gather in community, to grieve and process trauma, to teach and learn, to dance, to heal, and to experience Black love and joy. Twitty’s multilayered cooking draws on his family roots, his personal history, and his deep culinary knowledge of the American South. His latest title, the cookbook Recipes From the American South (Phaidon), brings his skill as a home cook and historically informed recipe-maker to the fore, allowing ingredients and dishes to transform into cultural and temporal touchpoints.  On this episode of Time Sensitive, Twitty reflects on what researching and uncovering his ancestry has taught him about Southern cooking and himself, and shares why, for him, food functions as a tangible form of cultural reclamation and emotional healing. Special thanks to our Season 12 presenting sponsor, Van Cleef & Arpels. Show notes: Michael W. Twitty [06:07] Saidiya Hartman [07:08] Their Eyes Were Watching God (1937) and Mules and Men (1935) by Zora Neale Hurston [08:07] Gonze Lee Twitty [15:15] Brer Rabbit  [12:58] National Museum of African American History and Culture [17:33] “Amazing Grace” [27:47] Gullah Geechee [51:15] Recipes From the American South (2025) [52:07] Southern Discomfort Tour [1:00:43] Koshersoul: The Faith and Food Journey of an African American Jew (2023) [1:00:43] Rice: A Savor the South Cookbook (2021) [1:00:43] The Cooking Gene: A Journey Through African-American Culinary History in the Old South (2018) [1:04:50] Ryan Coogler [1:15:45] James Hemings [1:15:45] Edith Fossett and Fanny Hern [1:15:45] Ursula Granger [1:16:00] Gage & Tollner [1:16:00] John Birdsall [1:16:00] Tennessee Williams [1:16:00] Truman Capote

For the Paris-born, New York–based artist Camille Henrot, time practically never stands still. Across her work in film, drawing, painting, sculpture, installation—and soon, live performance—Henrot has developed ways of stretching and distorting time, seamlessly shifting from moments of potent, rapid-fire intensity to quiet reflection. While her work carries a theory-driven ferocity and intelligence, it’s also incredibly playful. Hers is serious art that manages—often with a knowing, subtle wink—to not take itself too seriously. On this episode of Time Sensitive, Henrot considers the subjectivity of speed and slowness; previews her upcoming first-ever performance-art piece, slated to premiere in 2026 and a collaboration with the nonprofit Performa; and reflects on why, for her, a work is technically never finished. She also shares her fraught fascination with animals, childhood, and the climate crisis—the intersection of which she examines in-depth in her soon-to-debut film “In the Veins.” Special thanks to our Season 12 presenting sponsor, Van Cleef & Arpels. Show notes: Camille Henrot [02:56] RoseLee Goldberg [02:56] Performa Biennial [05:03] Buster Keaton [05:03] Tex Avery [05:36] Estelle Hoy [05:36] Adam Charlap Hyman of Charlap Hyman & Herrero [14:40] “In the Veins” (2026) [16:04] “Grosse Fatigue” [16:04] Massimiliano Gioni [36:03] Roland Barthes [42:48] Pierre Huyghe [44:24] Ikebana Sogetsu [48:58] Okwui Enwezor [52:15] Hypernormalisation by Adam Curtis (2016) [57:03] Jacob Bromberg [57:03] Akwetey Orraca-Tetteh [1:06:02] Adrienne Rich [1:06:02] Ursula K. Le Guin [1:06:02] Annie Ernaux [1:06:02] Mother Reader by Moyra Davey (2001) [1:06:02] Jenny Schlenzka [1:07:25] Maggie Nelson [1:08:19] Mothers: An Essay on Love and Cruelty by Jacqueline Rose (2019) [1:08:19] Representation of Motherhood by Donna Bassin (1994) [1:10:11] Louise Bourgeois

Alison Roman, a renowned cook and food writer known for her improvisational home-cooking style, shares her journey through food and personal growth. She discusses the importance of recipes as time capsules that reflect authenticity. Roman also dives into frugality shaped by her early life and how her ADHD affects her time management. She reveals the joy found in grocery shopping and its significance in her work. Lastly, Alison emphasizes the lasting impact of cookbooks in a digital age, merging tangible experiences with culinary storytelling.