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Databox is an easy-to-use Analytics Platform for growing businesses. We make it easy to centralize and view your entire company's marketing, sales, revenue, and product data in one place, so you always know how you're performing. Learn More About DataboxSubscribe to our newsletter for episode summaries, benchmark data, and moreThe metric: Sales Efficiency RatioIn this episode, we’re covering Sales Efficiency Ratio: which the Referral Rock team defines as “the ratio of salesperson sales, vs non-salesperson generated sales.”John Bonini chats with Josh Ho, founder and CEO of Referral Rock, to learn how they improved their Sales Efficiency Ratio, and as a result:Onboarded customers fasterIncreased user’s “speed to launch” rateRemoved a bottleneck to growthAnd were able to do more, with lessWhy Sales Efficiency Ratio?There were two main reasons why Josh and the team decided to try and move the needle on this metric:Selling primarily through sales reps was successful at first, but eventually became a bottleneck for growthThey wanted to lean into product-led growth and grow the self-service side of their productBefore improving this metric, 90%~ of sales were closed by the sales team. This worked well for a while, but eventually became a bottleneck to growth.The problem was, as the leads increased, so did the need for trained sales reps. And for a bootstrapped company like Referral Rock, this was costly in time & money.It also made it challenging to test new channels because they didn’t have the ability to scale the sales team as fast as leads would come in. For example, if they decided to heavily invest in paid ad channels and it ended up driving lots of leads, they’d have to scramble to hire enough sales staff to help support the growth.Besides all that, they had been intrigued by PLG (product-led growth), and how much more efficient that model could be for a SaaS company like theirs.Up until that time, they were using traditional sales-led growth. The primary CTA drove users to book a demo, and 90% of their closed deals came from this sales-led method.There was a self-service option, where users could start a free trial and build their program without input or assistance from sales. But only 10% of closed deals came through that route.So they set out to improve their sales efficiency, by increasing the number of deals that were closed via non-sales methods.How They Improved ItThey made product improvements to foster more self-service.They began working on shipping more PLG-inspired features to improve their existing self-service onboarding and upgrade flow. This way, if users preferred to set up their own referral program or upgrade their account, the experience was smoother for them.They had CSMs lead group demos, then pass that group off to the product itself.Before, they’d try to get important internal stakeholders onto the call, and take a more heavy-handed sales approach via sales reps.With this “lighter touch” approach, they’d take a group of interested users, show them a demo and answer their questions, and then hand them off to the product ( = the self-service / PLG route they developed).They initially built this “group demo to product” team by stealing from their CS team.They started with one team member in particular who knew the product inside and out, and who had been on some sales calls before. He was critical in helping frame out the role, and make this new model more efficient.Once they had the process in place and a better idea of what the role looked like, they began hiring outside talent to expand the team.They promoted their two CTAs (“Book Demo” and “Start Free Trial”) equally.They updated the layout and design of their site to give equal primacy to the two main CTAs. This let users choose how they wanted to buy.They introduced intelligent routing which sent users to self-service or sales, depending on various criteria.First, they implemented various tools & workflows in the product to get a better idea of what stage the potential buyer was in, and what type of company they were.Then, based on those inputs, they’d put them in pre-set groups or buckets.From there, they could route them to either the lighter-touch sales method they had developed (which resulted in self-service), or the traditional sales method, depending on which would serve them better.In addition to that, they implemented a lead score mechanism to route the right leads to the right person.Finally, they retooled their workflows to better serve prospective customers depending on which bucket they fell into.For example, users in the CSM-led, "lighter-touch” sales group might get 1 series of emails and messaging. While users in the traditional sales bucket might get an entirely different set of messaging.ResultsIn 6~ months these efforts resulted in them changing their Sales Efficiency Ratio ratio from 90/10 to 50/50.In practical terms, this meant that:Customers were onboarding fasterThe team could expect the “speed to launch” rate (how fast customers get their referral programs launched) to increase significantlyHiring and training new sales reps was no longer a bottleneck to growth, or testing new channelsAnd ultimately, they were able to do more with less.Check out the full episode here.

Databox is an easy-to-use Analytics Platform for growing businesses. We make it easy to centralize and view your entire company's marketing, sales, revenue, and product data in one place, so you always know how you're performing. Learn More About DataboxSubscribe to our newsletter for episode summaries, benchmark data, and moreCallRail is an incredibly data-driven company. They transparently share performance metrics across the entire team, to foster accountability and ownership. By looking at the metrics regularly, they’re never surprised to see a low or high number at the end of the month. And they work together to try and identify negative (or positive) trends when they see them happening in real-time.In this episode, Jason Rozenblat (VP of Strategic Accounts) shares how CallRail grew Free Trial to Customer Conversion %: the percentage of total users who begin a free trial and end up becoming paid customers.While they have other metrics they obsess over (namely MRR, ARR, and ARPU), Jason and his team are especially focused on “Free Trial to Customer Conversion %”  because it directly impacts deal size and close rate.It’s also important, in that it’s a shared metric across the team. Jason works with the Demand Gen team to grow it, and it’s shared by any teams that touch the website because those teams also care about driving traffic and improving website conversion rate. The two go hand in hand.This includes engineering, product marketing, and customer marketing. So they obsess over this metric as an entire organization.How they grew itJason and his team found a number of things that have contributed to growing this metric.Changing from monthly to weekly cohorts.By measuring cohorts weekly rather than monthly, they were able to get much more granular and ask, “what happened this week, that was different than other weeks?”. This helped them spot causes of growth or decline in real-time, as opposed to waiting until the end of the month and looking at a post-mortem. They also started tracking cohorts in 5-week intervals (from 2-week intervals). Since they have a 2-week free trial, they used to analyze cohorts in 2-week intervals. But they started to realize that there was always a long tail of trials that would close way past the 2-week mark. Users would extend their free trials, or come back after a trial had expired in order to enter payment information. So by extending the sales cycle, and measuring cohorts in 5-week intervals, they got a clearer picture of what was going on and had better data to make decisions from.They changed the way they handled lead assignments.Before, if sales reps were going to be using PTO the following week, they’d be pulled out of rotation to ensure they weren’t assigned any new free trials to manage. But what they didn’t account for was all the free trials that were set to expire on while that rep would be out of office.So they changed the way they handled lead assignments, to make sure that whenever a free trial expired, it was passed off to a rep who would be in office during that time. They also started to view expired trials as viable leads and focused more on converting them.They focused on sales training and education.On top of all of this, they continued training sales reps on how to better handle objects, close deals, etc.ResultsThe results they saw were amazing. Some months, they increased their Free Trial to Customer Conversion rate as high as 10 points.With the traffic and free trial volume, they had at the time, that change alone could add an additional 100-150 customers or $100k of ARR.And in certain cohorts, they saw trial to conversion rates of 70-80%.View the full episode here.

Databox is an easy-to-use Analytics Platform for growing businesses. We make it easy to centralize and view your entire company's marketing, sales, revenue, and product data in one place, so you always know how you're performing. Learn More About DataboxSubscribe to our newsletter for episode summaries, benchmark data, and moreIn this episode John Bonini chats with Adam Goyette, VP of Marketing at Help Scout, to learn how they grew their website conversion rate, and why that metric became a priority for the team.You’ll learn…How the Help Scout executive team sets annual goalsHow the marketing team identifies where to invest their time and moneyHow improving the website conversion rate became a priorityWhy Website Conversion Rate?Each year, the Help Scout executive team works together to identify what their annual revenue goal is, and what growth % they’re aiming to hit in the upcoming year.Once they have this number and growth %, they work backward to find how many signups and new customers they’ll need in order to hit that goal. Although the revenue goal is set annually, they’ll adjust the forecast of what they’re expecting quarter by quarter. This allows them to make smaller adjustments in real-time, as they see how things are trending.Transparently sharing their performanceEvery day, an email is delivered to the team, showing them how they’re progressing towards that month’s goal. It includes a breakdown of trials, sales opportunities, and projected MRR. On top of that, individual teams meet weekly to review their own numbers. And executive teams meet once a month, reviewing what happened in the last month and where they’re going next month. They feel that having the numbers transparently in front of the entire team, encourages everyone to be creative and offer up solutions to help improve that number. Looking for growth opportunitiesOnce they have their growth goals in place, it’s time to figure out how to achieve them. Their goal is to find the right set of “levers” to pull, in order to move the needle on traffic, free trials, demo requests, weighted pipeline, and more.And there are dozens of levers they could pull. It’s probably the same challenge you face at your company. Do you try new channels, or grow existing ones? Do you send more traffic, or improve conversion with the traffic you have? To help narrow things down, they look how each stage of their funnel is performing, and how each channel is performing. Then they ask questions like, “what channels can we reasonably expect to grow?” and “what channels might be worth investing in?”They also look for the easiest wins. For example, if paid channels are steeped in competition with deeper pockets, they’ll look for a channel where they can be more competitive. Or they might find they can get significant results just by doubling down on an existing channel.Why they chose Website Conversion RateAdam and the team found that the free trial to paid conversion rate was 20%+, which was already high for the industry. But if they looked higher up in the funnel, they found they were getting 500,000 visitors every month. They decided it would be far easier and more impactful for them to increase the website’s conversion rate (driving more free trial signups), than it would to increase an already high “trial to conversion rate” of 20%.So they set to work running experiments.How They Improved ItThey view their website content in 2 main buckets: “High-Intent Pages” and “Low-Intent Pages”.High intent pages include the homepage or product pages, where people are visiting with the intent to explore and potentially sign up for the product. Here, the call to action is “sign up” or “start free trial”. Low intent pages include content like a blog or thought leadership content, so they make the call to action something like “join the newsletter”. This encourages visitors to stay in the Help Scout ecosystem, without forcing them to take an action they have no intention of taking. When setting out to measure and improve their website conversion rate, they only looked at conversion on the “high intent pages”. This helped them get a more accurate number of how they were performing on pages that had a set call to action of conversion.Their current “website to free trial” conversion rate was 2% on those high intent pages, and their conversion rate from “free trial to active paying customer” was 20%. They assembled a “task force” of stakeholdersWebsite conversion is often “cross-functional”. In other words, it’s owned or used by multiple teams. Brand marketing might own the messaging. Product marketing might own the positioning. And growth marketing might own SEO or conversion rate.So Adam and the team put together an “optimization squad”, comprised of all the stakeholders who needed to have input on the website. This ensured that every stakeholder had seat at the table, and could work together on improving conversion without stepping on each other’s toes.They tested everythingThey experimented with just about everything. But they saw the biggest results by adding personalization. Helpscout has a wide base of customers, so by understanding who their buyers are, they’re able to present more helpful messaging tailored to those personas.For example, they found that smaller companies have to convert better by going through self-serve, while bigger companies almost always convert better when they speak with sales. The optimization squad would take an insight like this, and present a dynamic (changing) call to action, depending on the person viewing the site. Someone from a company with more than 500 employees might see “talk with sales” while someone from a small company sees “start free trial”. They’d also highlight different use cases of the product, and change the way they talked about Help Scout. For example, if a 500+ person organization read, “Help desk software for small business”, they might feel Help Scout wasn’t for them. By personalizing the team could show different customer logos (that looked like the visitor’s company), make the language more relevant, and be more helpful with use cases that visitor was interested in.In total, personalization included dynamically presenting the call to action, headlines, length of free trial, use cases and social proof.ResultsIn just 6 months, they saw a 56% increase in demo requests and a 6% increase in trials.Check out the episode summary here.

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