

Frankly Fukuyama
Francis Fukuyama
Join Francis Fukuyama for conversations with leading policymakers and thinkers as he explores how to revitalize liberal democracy in the United States, while addressing the authoritarian challenges to liberal democracy abroad. A project of American Purpose at Persuasion. www.persuasion.community
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Oct 31, 2025 • 28min
Gabrielius Landsbergis on What Next For Europe
Francis Fukuyama is joined by Gabrielius Landsbergis, Lithuania’s former Minister of Foreign Affairs, to discuss Ukraine, Russia, and the war’s impact on the rest of Europe.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe

Oct 27, 2025 • 37min
The Real Cause of Populism
In this conversation, Francis Fukuyama and Jeremiah Johnson from the Center for New Liberalism examine different possible reasons for our divided politics, and conclude that social media is the leading cause of the global rise of populism.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe

Oct 14, 2025 • 13min
The Case Against the Unitary Executive
Under the doctrine of the “unitary executive,” Donald Trump has fired numerous federal officials that had statutory job protections. Congress has seen fit to limit the president’s removal power for the past 150 years in order to protect expertise and de-politicize parts of the federal government, like the Federal Reserve Board. For government to operate effectively, there needs to be a separation of powers not just between the branches of government, but within the executive branch itself, and the Supreme Court should not hand Trump this power.You can watch the episode below. All episodes of the Frankly Fukuyama podcast are available here.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe

Sep 24, 2025 • 8min
Our Coming Plutocracy
In this episode, Francis Fukuyama explores why the Tesla board’s offer of a trillion dollar incentive to Elon Musk and the consolidation of a gigantic media empire by Larry Ellison and his son David are the latest examples of the dangerous levels of concentrated wealth and power in today’s America.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe

Jul 21, 2025 • 9min
Francis Fukuyama on Agentic AI and the Problem of Delegation
In this episode of Frankly Fukuyama, Francis Fukuyama explores AI’s existential threat to humanity. The original blog post which inspired this episode is here.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe

Jun 5, 2025 • 17min
Michael McFaul on The Emerging Geopolitical Order
Michael McFaul is the Director of the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies at Stanford, and author of the forthcoming book Autocrats vs. Democrats: China, Russia, America, and the New Global Disorder.In this conversation, Francis Fukuyama and Michael McFaul discuss discuss Russia, whether there is a new Cold War between the United States and China, and why teaching should empower students to be actual policy implementers rather than simply technocrats.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe

Jun 2, 2025 • 44min
Parag Khanna on How To Measure State Capacity
In the latest conversation on the Frankly Fukuyama podcast, Francis Fukuyama is joined by Parag Khanna.Parag Khanna is a political scientist and author of a number of books, including Move! The Forces Uprooting Us, How to Run the World, and Technocracy in America. He is the CEO of AlphaGeo, a geospatial predictive location analytics platform, and the creator of The Periodic Table of States.You can watch the full episode below, and can find all episodes of the Frankly Fukuyama podcast here.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe

May 7, 2025 • 28min
Batu Kutelia on Georgia
Batu Kutelia was a former ambassador of the Republic of Georgia to the Untied States, and a senior official in the Georgian Defense Ministry. In this interview, he talks about the strategic importance of Georgia and the so-called "Middle Corridor", and how the country is under severe pressure from Russia to re-enter the Russian strategic orbitPodcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe

May 5, 2025 • 28min
Introducing the Frankly Fukuyama Podcast!
I’d like to introduce you to a new podcast series that will accompany my Frankly Fukuyama blog on American Purpose at Persuasion. Rose Gottemoeller is the former Deputy Secretary General of NATO, has held a series of top State Department posts including Undersecretary for Arms Control and International Security, and was chief negotiator of the New START Treaty.Podcast production by Ringo Harrison and Leonora Barclay.Connect with us!X: @FukuyamaFrancis & @JoinPersuasionYouTube: Frankly Fukuyama & Persuasion This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.persuasion.community/subscribe


