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The Joint Readiness Training Center is the premier crucible training experience. We prepare units to fight and win in the most complex environments against world-class opposing forces. We are America’s leadership laboratory.
This podcast isn’t an academic review of historical vignettes or political-science analysis of current events. This is a podcast about warfighting and the skillsets necessary for America’s Army to fight and win on the modern battlefield.
This podcast isn’t an academic review of historical vignettes or political-science analysis of current events. This is a podcast about warfighting and the skillsets necessary for America’s Army to fight and win on the modern battlefield.
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Apr 4, 2026 • 1h 10min
145 S05 Ep 15 – LOGSYNC Meetings: Where Sustainment Gets Synchronized w/JRTC Subject Matter Experts
The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the one-hundredth-and-forty-fifth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by MAJ Amy Beatty, the Task Force Executive Officer Observer-Coach-Trainer from Task Force Sustainment (Division Sustainment Support Battalion / Light Support Battalion) on behalf of the Commander of Ops Group (COG). Today’s guests are CPT Cody Kindle and MAJ Charles Alley. CPT Kindle the S-4 Sustainment Planner for JRTC’s Plans / Exercise Maneuver Control Task Force. MAJ Alley is the Senior Sustainment Operations Officer S-3 OCT from Task Force Sustainment (DSSB / LSB).
This episode focuses on the importance of logistics synchronization (LOGSYNC) meetings as the central mechanism for aligning sustainment operations with maneuver across the formation. Rather than being a routine battle rhythm event, the LOGSYNC is framed as a decision-making forum where commanders and staff integrate supply, maintenance, transportation, and medical support with the operational timeline. The discussion emphasizes that effective LOGSYNC meetings are driven by accurate and timely data—particularly LOGSTATs—and enable leaders to anticipate requirements, prioritize limited resources, and posture sustainment assets in advance of key events. When done correctly, LOGSYNC ensures sustainment is proactive rather than reactive, directly contributing to tempo and freedom of maneuver in Large-Scale Combat Operations.
The episode also highlights common friction points and best practices in executing LOGSYNC at echelon. Units often struggle with incomplete or inaccurate reporting, lack of participation from key leaders, and failure to tie sustainment planning to decision points and phases of the operation. Best practices include enforcing disciplined reporting standards, maintaining a clear and consistent battle rhythm, and using shared running estimates and visualization tools to drive discussion. The conversation reinforces that LOGSYNC is not solely a sustainment function—it requires integration across all warfighting functions to ensure protection, movement, and sustainment efforts are synchronized. Ultimately, effective LOGSYNC meetings enable commanders to make informed decisions, mitigate risk, and sustain combat power throughout the fight.
Part of S05 “Beans, Bullets, Band-Aids, Batteries, Water, & Fuel” series.
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Apr 2, 2026 • 20min
144 S13 Ep 21 – Air Defense at the Brigade & Planning for the Modern Air Threat w/CW3 Bryan Hartt
The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the one-hundredth-and-forty-fourth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by MAJ David Pfaltzgraff, the BDE Executive Officer Observer-Coach-Trainer and MAJ Marc Howle, the Brigade Senior Engineer / Protection OCT for Brigade Command & Control (BDE HQ), on behalf of the Commander of Ops Group (COG). Today’s guest is the JRTC expert for JRTC for airspace management: CW3 Bryan Hartt, the Air Defense Airspace Management OCT (formerly Brigade Aviation Element) for BC2.
This episode examines air defense operations at the brigade and division echelons, emphasizing that effective protection against aerial threats begins with disciplined planning during MDMP—particularly mission analysis. A key theme is that units often fail to properly assess the specific air threat they face, resulting in mismatched capabilities and ineffective employment of available systems. Rather than simply positioning assets, leaders must understand the threat—whether fixed-wing, rotary, or UAS—and resource appropriate countermeasures early, often requiring coordination with division-level assets. The discussion highlights that air defense is not just a system or capability, but a planning problem that must be integrated across the staff, especially within the protection warfighting function.
The conversation also explores the realities of operating with limited organic air defense capability at the brigade level, where units often rely on external assets and must prioritize what to protect rather than attempting to cover everything. Integration challenges—such as balancing airspace management with air defense, coordinating with electronic warfare for counter-UAS, and maintaining visibility of distributed ADA assets—are highlighted as common friction points. The episode reinforces the importance of passive air defense measures—camouflage, concealment, dispersion, deception, and emissions control—as essential, immediately available tools that significantly enhance survivability. Ultimately, success at echelon depends on clear prioritization, staff integration, and a realistic understanding of both capabilities and limitations in a contested, multi-domain fight.
Part of S13 “Hip Pocket Training” series.
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Mar 28, 2026 • 33min
143 S13 Ep 20 – Military Decision-Making Process Outputs that Win w/JRTC Experts
The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the one-hundredth-and-forty-third episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by MAJ David Pfaltzgraff, the BDE Executive Officer Observer-Coach-Trainer and MAJ Marc Howle, the Brigade Senior Engineer / Protection OCT for Brigade Command & Control (BDE HQ), on behalf of the Commander of Ops Group (COG). Today’s guests are experts across JRTC: MSG Jared Cawthon as the BDE Fires Support NCOIC, MSG Randell Conway as the BDE Intelligence NCOIC OCT, both from BC2 (BDE HQ), and MAJ Lorenzo Evans is the Support Operations Plans Officer OCT for TF Sustainment (DSSB / LSB).
This episode focuses on the critical outputs of the military decision-making process (MDMP) and how their quality directly determines a unit’s ability to execute in combat. Rather than viewing MDMP as a series of steps, the discussion emphasizes that its true value lies in the products it produces—clear commander’s guidance, refined mission statements, synchronized warfighting function inputs, and shared fighting products that enable subordinate units to act. Key outputs such as planning guidance, initial and refined timelines, targeting products, and decision support tools are highlighted as essential for translating analysis into executable operations. When done correctly, these outputs create a common understanding across the formation and allow units to operate with speed, clarity, and purpose in a complex environment.
The conversation also underscores that poor or incomplete MDMP outputs are often the root cause of friction during execution. Vague guidance, inconsistent graphics, and lack of version control lead to desynchronized efforts and missed opportunities on the battlefield. Best practices focus on producing simple, clear, and timely outputs that are continuously refined through running estimates and rehearsals. The importance of early dissemination, shared digital and analog products, and enforcing standards across the staff is reinforced to ensure all echelons are aligned. Ultimately, the episode highlights that MDMP is only as effective as the outputs it delivers, and units that master these products gain a decisive advantage in large-scale combat operations.
Part of S13 “Hip Pocket Training” series.
For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast
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“The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.

Mar 26, 2026 • 32min
142 S13 Ep 19 – The Importance of Rehearsals at Echelon within the Brigade w/JRTC Experts
The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the one-hundredth-and-forty-second episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by MAJ David Pfaltzgraff, the BDE Executive Officer Observer-Coach-Trainer and MAJ Marc Howle, the Brigade Senior Engineer / Protection OCT for Brigade Command & Control (BDE HQ), on behalf of the Commander of Ops Group (COG). Today’s guests are experts across JRTC: MSG Jared Cawthon as the BDE Fires Support NCOIC, MSG Randell Conway as the BDE Intelligence NCOIC OCT, both from BC2 (BDE HQ), and MAJ Lorenzo Evans is the Support Operations Plans Officer OCT for TF Sustainment (DSSB / LSB).
This episode emphasizes the critical role of rehearsals within the MDMP and broader operations process, framing them as the bridge between planning and execution where units transform concepts into synchronized action. The discussion highlights that rehearsals are often the first thing sacrificed when time is constrained, yet they are the very mechanism that prevents plans from failing under the friction of combat. A full “rehearsal suite”—including combined arms, intelligence and fires, sustainment, and other functional rehearsals—serves to validate plans, confirm triggers, align resources, and ensure each warfighting function is nested in time and space. When executed properly, rehearsals expose gaps in planning, refine synchronization, and build the shared understanding necessary for units to mass effects in a complex, multi-domain fight.
The conversation also highlights common challenges and best practices associated with rehearsals, emphasizing that they must be interactive, friction-focused events rather than scripted performances or “dog and pony shows.” Success depends on having the right participants—not just attendees—who can make decisions, contribute to problem-solving, and adapt the plan in real time. Leaders stress the importance of using proper fighting products, detailed terrain models, and enforcing simultaneity to identify conflicts that would otherwise go unnoticed. Ultimately, rehearsals are described as a forcing function that reveals weak planning, validates feasibility, and ensures that every echelon—from brigade to last-mile logistics—can execute with confidence when the operation begins.
Part of S13 “Hip Pocket Training” series.
For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast
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“The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.

Mar 21, 2026 • 39min
141 S13 Ep 18 – Getting the Integrated Fires Support Plan Right w/JRTC Experts
The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the one-hundredth-and-forty-first episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by MAJ Marc Howle, the Brigade Senior Engineer / Protection Observer-Coach-Trainer for Brigade Command & Control (BDE HQ) and MAJ Jeff Horn, the Executive Officer OCT for Fires Support Task Force (FA BN / DIVARTY), on behalf of the Commander of Ops Group (COG). Today’s guests are experts within JRTC’s BC2: MSG Jared Cawthon as the BDE Fires Support NCOIC, MSG Austin Moss as the Senior Targeting NCOIC OCT, CW3 Michael Horrace is the BCT Targeting Officer OCT, and MSG Randell Conway as the BDE S-2 Intelligence NCOIC OCT.
This episode focuses on the fundamentals and execution of an effective integrated fires support plan, emphasizing that true integration begins early in the MDMP process and is anchored by a well-constructed and disciplined timeline. The discussion highlights the importance of the higher headquarters’ operational timeline (HOP), nested planning timelines, and synchronization across echelons to ensure fires are aligned with maneuver. A key theme is the tight coupling between intelligence and fires during mission analysis, particularly through IPOE/SPOE, where accurate enemy templating, event templates, and collection planning directly enable lethal and effective targeting. Without this integration, fires risk becoming terrain-focused rather than threat-focused, leading to ineffective effects and missed opportunities to shape the fight.
The episode also explores best practices for sustaining integration throughout planning and execution, including the role of running estimates, valid planning assumptions, and the continuous feedback loop between MDMP and the targeting process. It underscores the necessity of disciplined target refinement cutoffs, version control, and shared fighting products to ensure all echelons operate from a common understanding prior to rehearsals. Additionally, the conversation highlights that integrated fires is a full staff effort—not just fires and intelligence—but includes sustainment, protection, signal, and maneuver elements working together through both planning and execution cycles. Ultimately, success is tied to mastering fundamentals, maintaining synchronization through clear processes and products, and enabling commanders to make informed, timely decisions in a dynamic fight.
Part of S13 “Hip Pocket Training” series.
For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast
Be sure to follow us on social media to keep up with the latest warfighting TTPs learned through the crucible that is the Joint Readiness Training Center.
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“The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.

Mar 18, 2026 • 37min
140 S11 Ep 09 – Closing the Gap: Replicating the Modern Threat at JRTC w/JRTC OPFOR
The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the one-hundredth-and-fortieth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by LTC Trevor Jones, the Battalion Commander of 1-509th IN (OPFOR) on behalf of the Commander of Operations Group. Today’s guests are members of JRTC’s intelligence community: Mr. Jason McAnally, MAJ Will Montoya, and CPT Graham Gifford. Mr. McAnally is the JRTC G-2 Intelligence Officer. MAJ Montoya is the Multi-Domain Effects Cell Chief for Geronimo. And CPT Gifford is the S-2 Intelligence Officer for Geronimo.
This episode centers on how the Joint Readiness Training Center (JRTC) is actively working to close the gap between training and the rapidly evolving realities of modern warfare by replicating a more lethal, complex, and peer-driven operational environment. The discussion highlights how lessons from contemporary conflicts—particularly the Russia-Ukraine war—are driving a shift toward incorporating realistic threat capabilities such as massed UAS, electronic warfare, and precision fires into OPFOR replication. Emphasis is placed on ensuring that rotational units encounter these threats in training first, rather than in combat, by exposing them to continuous surveillance, contested electromagnetic environments, and the persistent threat of unmanned systems operating across depth.
The conversation also explores how OPFOR (Geronimo) is evolving its tactics, organization, and capabilities to better mirror near-peer adversaries like Russia and China. This includes replicating multi-domain effects across disruption, battle, and support zones, integrating emerging technologies such as FPV drones, robotic systems, and AI-enabled targeting, and experimenting with new forms of mass that combine traditional fires with unmanned and electronic effects. A key theme is the transition toward “machines first” contact—leveraging robotics and UAS to initiate engagements—while forcing units to adapt to degraded communications, contested airspace, and high-casualty environments. Ultimately, the episode reinforces that closing the gap requires continuous adaptation, iterative experimentation, and translating lessons learned into behavioral change across the force.
Part of S11 “Conversations with the Enemy” series.
For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast.
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“The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.

Mar 13, 2026 • 34min
139 S13 Ep 17 – Running Estimates Made Easy w/JRTC Experts
The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the one-hundredth-and-thirty-ninth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by MAJ Marc Howle, the Brigade Senior Engineer / Protection Observer-Coach-Trainer, and MAJ David Pfaltzgraff, BDE Executive Officer OCT, from Brigade Command & Control (BDE HQ) on behalf of the Commander of Ops Group (COG). Today’s guests are experts within JRTC’s BC2: MAJ Steven Yates, the BDE S-6 Signal OCT and MAJ Michael Stewart, the incoming, BDE S-3 Operations Officer OCT.
This episode examines the role of running estimates within the Military Decision-Making Process (MDMP) and why they are essential to maintaining shared understanding between current operations and future planning. The discussion highlights that running estimates are not simply formatted slides or quad charts, but rather a continuous analytical process conducted by staff subject matter experts across each warfighting function. Effective running estimates synthesize facts, assumptions, constraints, and limitations while identifying risks and emerging tasks, enabling staff to translate raw information into meaningful assessments for commanders. Rather than simply listing data such as available assets or equipment, staff must analyze what those resources actually enable the force to accomplish and communicate the operational implications.
The conversation also explores best practices for maintaining useful running estimates throughout planning and execution. Leaders emphasize that running estimates must be continuously updated as operations unfold and integrated into key staff forums such as the operations synchronization meeting, Battle Update Brief /Commander’s Update Brief, and other battle rhythm events to ensure planning remains aligned with battlefield realities. When neglected or treated as static documents, units risk planning against outdated assumptions, leading to flawed courses of action and ineffective execution. Ultimately, the episode reinforces that running estimates are the “connective tissue” between plans and current operations, allowing staffs to translate evolving battlefield information into timely recommendations, risks, and decisions that support effective command and control.
Part of S13 “Hip Pocket Training” series.
For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast
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Again, we’d like to thank our guests for participating. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and review us wherever you listen or watch your podcasts — and be sure to stay tuned for more in the near future.
“The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.

Mar 12, 2026 • 1h 22min
138 S05 Ep 14 – Sustainment Base Cluster Design Deep-Dive w/JRTC Subject Matter Experts
The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the one-hundredth-and-thirty-eighth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by MAJ Amy Beatty, the Task Force Executive Officer Observer-Coach-Trainer from Task Force Sustainment (Division Sustainment Support Battalion / Light Support Battalion) on behalf of the Commander of Ops Group (COG). Today’s guests are CPT Cody Kindle and CPT Christopher Ward. CPT Kindle the S-4 Sustainment Planner for JRTC’s Plans / Exercise Maneuver Control Task Force. CPT Ward is the A Co CDR OCT (Distro / BSA) from Task Force Sustainment (DSSB / LSB).
This episode examines the employment of base clusters within the brigade support area (BSA) as a survivability technique in the modern battlefield. The discussion highlights how sustainment units must adapt to a highly transparent and lethal operating environment where UAS surveillance, long-range fires, and precision targeting threaten traditional large logistics footprints. Rather than concentrating sustainment elements in a single BSA, base clusters disperse key functions—such as maintenance, distribution, medical support, and command nodes—across multiple smaller positions that remain mutually supporting. This dispersion reduces the likelihood that a single enemy strike can disrupt sustainment operations while still enabling brigades to maintain logistics flow to maneuver battalions.
The conversation also emphasizes the planning and synchronization required to make base clusters effective. Leaders discuss the importance of terrain analysis, security integration, camouflage and signature management, and disciplined reporting to maintain a shared operational picture across dispersed sustainment nodes. Effective base clusters require coordinated movement control, rehearsed displacement drills, and strong communications architecture to ensure that dispersed elements can still function as a cohesive support network. Ultimately, the episode frames base clusters as a critical adaptation for sustainment survivability in large-scale combat operations, enabling brigades to continue fueling, arming, and repairing combat forces despite persistent enemy reconnaissance and precision strike threats.
Part of S05 “Beans, Bullets, Band-Aids, Batteries, Water, & Fuel” series.
For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast.
Be sure to follow us on social media to keep up with the latest warfighting TTPs learned through the crucible that is the Joint Readiness Training Center.
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Again, we’d like to thank our guests for participating. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and review us wherever you listen or watch your podcasts — and be sure to stay tuned for more in the near future.
“The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.

Mar 7, 2026 • 36min
137 S13 Ep 16 – Base Cluster Basics w/JRTC Expert Sustainers
The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the one-hundredth-and-thirty-seventh episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by MAJ Marc Howle, the Brigade Senior Engineer / Protection Observer-Coach-Trainer, and MAJ David Pfaltzgraff, BDE Executive Officer OCT, from Brigade Command & Control (BDE HQ) on behalf of the Commander of Ops Group (COG). Today’s guests are expert sustainers from across JRTC: MAJ Amy Beatty, the TF Executive Officer for TF Sustainment (DSSB / LSB) and CPT Cody Kindle, the S-4 Sustainment Planner in
Plans / Exercise Maneuver Control (TF Zulu).
This episode dives into the importance of base clusters, which are a survivability and sustainment technique used by brigades and battalions to disperse logistics and command elements while maintaining mutual support in a contested battlespace. Instead of concentrating sustainment nodes such as the brigade support area (BSA), field trains, and maintenance sites in a single large footprint, units distribute smaller elements across a wider area in multiple mutually supporting positions connected by terrain, security, and communications. This approach reduces the vulnerability of sustainment assets to long-range fires, UAS surveillance, and precision strike systems that dominate the modern battlefield. By dispersing logistics nodes while maintaining coordination through disciplined reporting, movement control, and security integration, base clusters allow sustainment elements to remain survivable, mobile, and capable of supporting maneuver forces in large-scale combat operations (LSCO).
Part of S13 “Hip Pocket Training” series.
For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast
Be sure to follow us on social media to keep up with the latest warfighting TTPs learned through the crucible that is the Joint Readiness Training Center.
Follow us by going to: https://linktr.ee/jrtc and then selecting your preferred podcast format.
Again, we’d like to thank our guests for participating. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and review us wherever you listen or watch your podcasts — and be sure to stay tuned for more in the near future.
“The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.

Mar 5, 2026 • 30min
136 S11 Ep 08 – Machines before Men: Geronimo’s New Forms of Mass & Their Modern New Kill Chain w/JRTC OPFOR
The Joint Readiness Training Center is pleased to present the one-hundredth-and-thirty-sixth episode to air on ‘The Crucible - The JRTC Experience.’ Hosted by LTC Trevor Jones, the Battalion Commander of 1-509th IN (OPFOR) on behalf of the Commander of Operations Group. Today’s guests are members of JRTC’s infamous Opposing Force, Team Geronimo: CPT Jeremiah Cox, 1SG Terence Newby, and SFC Walter Jinks. CPT Cox is the Company Commander for Able Company, 1-509th IN. 1SG Newby is the First Sergeant for Easy Company, 1-509th IN. SFC Jinks is the Engineer Platoon Sergeant within Easy Company.
This episode explores how the JRTC Opposing Force—Geronimo—is evolving its tactics through what the unit calls “new forms of mass.” Rather than relying solely on traditional concentrations of combat power, the discussion highlights how OPFOR is integrating robotics, unmanned systems, electronic warfare, and precision effects to generate combat mass across multiple domains. Leaders describe how small multi-purpose equipment transports (SMETs), unmanned aerial systems, and remotely operated platforms are being used to conduct breaching operations, deliver precision fires, transport sustainment, and even serve as deception or targeting tools. These systems allow Geronimo to make first contact with machines rather than soldiers, reducing risk to personnel while increasing tempo and battlefield confusion for rotational units.
The conversation also focuses on how these technologies enable new ways of synchronizing effects during offensive and defensive operations. Examples include integrating electronic warfare and drone strikes into the suppress phase of a breach, using unmanned systems to obscure and reduce obstacles, and deploying robotic platforms armed with crew-served weapons to support maneuver. In the defense, robotic systems are used to extend screening operations, attrit enemy forces forward of the main battle position, and provide early warning. The episode concludes by discussing challenges such as maintenance, connectivity, and data transport while emphasizing that the future battlefield will require every soldier to understand and employ unmanned systems. Ultimately, Geronimo’s experimentation is designed to force rotational units to confront a modernized threat capable of creating mass through distributed sensors, robotics, and precision effects across the battlespace.
Part of S11 “Conversations with the Enemy” series.
For additional information and insights from this episode, please check-out our Instagram page @the_jrtc_crucible_podcast.
Be sure to follow us on social media to keep up with the latest warfighting TTPs learned through the crucible that is the Joint Readiness Training Center.
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Again, we’d like to thank our guests for participating. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and review us wherever you listen or watch your podcasts — and be sure to stay tuned for more in the near future.
“The Crucible – The JRTC Experience” is a product of the Joint Readiness Training Center.


