Choiceology with Katy Milkman

Jennifer Logg, a Georgetown professor researching how people respond to algorithmic advice, and Dean Oliver, an ESPN data scientist who helped pioneer NBA analytics, join the conversation. They discuss the Celtics’ analytics-driven rebuild and how algorithms can outperform human judgment in prediction tasks. The show also explores when to trust machine guidance and the risks of biased or incomplete data.

True high-stakes rescue stories and tense sports roster decisions set the stage. Interviews with leading researchers in psychology and behavioral economics explore what drives big and everyday choices. Surprising findings about how experts treat advice and how crises shape behavior are teased. New installments arrive every two weeks.

Angela Duckworth, a psychologist and author of "Grit," explores the science of self-control, emphasizing techniques to manage impulses effectively. Yuhuru Williams, a historian and advocate for racial justice, discusses Jackie Robinson's remarkable composure in the face of adversity and how it reshaped perceptions in baseball. They reveal how mastering self-control can lead to success, highlighting practical strategies like situational design to strengthen willpower and enhance personal discipline.

Katy Milkman chats with Dr. Angela Duckworth, a renowned psychologist and author of 'Grit,' who has delved deep into self-control and perseverance. They explore how self-control manifests in everyday choices and the surprising insights from the famous marshmallow test. Angela offers practical strategies to enhance self-control, like modifying environments and using simple hacks to reduce temptation. She also distinguishes between grit and self-control, highlighting the importance of cultivating resilience through supportive relationships and structured environments.

Mary Murphy, a professor at Indiana University, dives into the fascinating world of mindsets, drawing from her research on motivation and growth. She explores how the labels we give ourselves, like 'talented' or 'not,' shape our abilities. Murphy highlights the differences between growth and fixed mindsets, explaining how the latter can hinder performance. She discusses practical strategies to shift from a fixed mindset, emphasizing the power of perseverance and adaptability in various aspects of life, including learning and investing.

Join Clayton Critcher, a UC Berkeley marketing and psychology professor, as he delves into the fascinating concept of doubling-back aversion—the reluctance to start over even when it’s the best choice. He shares the story of the Panama Canal's costly mistakes due to this bias. Listeners learn practical strategies to overcome this instinct, such as reframing wasted efforts and adopting a more flexible mindset. It’s a compelling exploration of how our minds trick us into resisting the smart pivot.

Liev Hukset Wang is the Head of Communications at the Kon-Tiki Museum in Oslo, dedicated to preserving Thor Heyerdahl's legacy. Colin Fisher, an Associate Professor at UCL, focuses on innovation and teamwork. They discuss the remarkable Kon-Tiki expedition, emphasizing the importance of camaraderie and clear goals in achieving success. Colin shares insights on avoiding social loafing and fostering group synergy through effective collaboration, debunking myths about team dynamics with compelling historical examples.

Historian Adrian Phillips, author of works on British royalty during WWII, shares insights on King George VI's struggles with his stutter and public speaking. Seth Tichenor, a speech-language pathologist, discusses the emotional challenges faced by individuals with speech impediments in public roles. The conversation dives into the spotlight effect—how we overestimate others' scrutiny of our mistakes—highlighting that often, our blunders barely register with those around us. It's a blend of history and psychology that reminds us to embrace our imperfections.

Joe Schwarcz, a chemistry professor at McGill University, delves into the Vitamin C controversy stemming from Linus Pauling's unfounded health claims. His story reveals how a revered scientist can influence public perception despite lacking solid evidence. Florian Zimmermann, an economics professor at the University of Bonn, discusses correlation neglect, illustrating how multiple recommendations from a single source can skew our understanding. Both guests highlight the importance of critically evaluating information sources in a world swamped with repetitive messages.

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