From What If to What Next

Rob Hopkins
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Jan 21, 2024 • 43min

92 - What if we decolonised the ecological sector?

The British Ecological Society's REED Ecological Network (REED standing for Racial and Ethnic Equality and Diversity) was formed due to the very low levels of people of colour represented in the sector, and their feeling that "it's easy to feel alone when working in ecology, the environment and related fields like agriculture". My two guests this week, Bushra Schuitemaker and Reuben Fakoya-Brooks are both members, and in spite of working in quite different ecological sectors, are active founder members of this network. How did it start? What does it do? And how does it actively fire the imaginations of those involved? This is a beautiful episode, I hope you love it. As always, do let us know what you think. Please consider supporting the podcast by visiting www.patreon.com/fromwhatiftowhatnext and becoming a patron.
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Jan 14, 2024 • 43min

91 - What if we could train our imagination to reimagine change?

Jonathan Rhodes and Joanna Grover, authors of 'The Choice Point' and imagery coaching experts, discuss the power of imagination and functional imagery training. They explore imagining a future world focused on sustainable lifestyles, the role of multi-sensory imagery in motivation and change, addressing avoidance for personal growth, starting small for environmental change, and embracing imagination and expressing gratitude.
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Jan 7, 2024 • 50min

90 - In conversation with Aisha Shillingford

On some of our 'decade' episodes (well, 50 and 80 anyway) we changed from our usual two guest format to an in-depth conversation with someone who represents one of the great practitioners of the radical imagination in our times. And so today, in keeping with that 'tradition', we mark Episode 90 with a one-to-one conversation with Aisha Shillingford, whose work I just love. She is Artistic Director at the fabulous Intelligent Mischief, whose work includes the fabulously-titled Secret Society of Black Utopians. She wrote a brilliant article recently in Yes! magazine which I highly recommend. What a delight and an honour to be able to sit and talk imagination with her. I hope you love it, and as always, do let me know what you think. Please consider supporting the podcast by visiting www.patreon.com/fromwhatiftowhatnext and becoming a patron.
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Dec 31, 2023 • 35min

89 - What if everyone had the inner skills to navigate the climate crisis?

Aimee Lewis Reau and LaUra Schmidt, co-authors of 'How to Live in a Chaotic Climate' and co-founders of the Good Grief Network, join the conversation. They dive into eco-distress, discussing feelings of overwhelm and isolation, and how collective grief can be transformative. The duo outlines their 10-step resilience model, emphasizing imagination, inner skill-building, and the delicate balance between inner work and action. They inspire with stories of real-life change, advocating for courage in facing grief and fostering connection.
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Dec 24, 2023 • 42min

88 - What if workers were in charge of the energy transition?

This is a wonderful conversation. It's a deep dive into a powerful reimagining of who our energy system serves, and what it might look like. My two guests are both people who have given this a lot of thoughts. Elaine McMillion Sheldon is an Academy Award-nominated, Peabody-winning, and two-time Emmy-winning documentary filmmaker. Her most recent film is the utterly brilliant 'King Coal' (see the trailer here). Rosemary Harris, from Platform, was part of the creation of the recent 'Our Power' report, which you can read here. I hope you enjoy this discussion and the possibilities it will open up in your imagination. Please consider supporting the podcast by visiting www.patreon.com/fromwhatiftowhatnext and becoming a patron.
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Oct 2, 2023 • 51min

87 - What if fungi saved the world?

Welcome to one of those episodes of From What If to What Next that really gets under your skin. We are going to step out of our everyday commonplace universe and enter the parallel world of fungi that lives all around us, and really creates the world we live in. It's a pretty wild ride. And I have two amazing guests for you, who will hold our hands on our deep dive into this fascinating world. Dr. Patricia Ononiwu Kaishian is the Curator of Mycology at the New York State Museum, and her forthcoming book has possibly the best title I have ever heard which I'm not going to tell you so it can be a delightful surprise. And Doug Bierend is a New York based writer and author of the fab In Search of Mycotopia. I think you're going to like this one. As always, thanks for listening, thanks to Ben Addicott for sprinkling his audio gold dust over the whole affair, and do share your thoughts, it's lovely to know what you think. Thanks.
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Sep 25, 2023 • 1h 14min

85 - What if our visionaries and activists were properly resourced?

This week's episode is just delightful. Meet Leah Black, currently leading the development of the new Regenerative Futures Fund for Edinburgh, and Shasta Hanif Ali is a writer, poet and anti-racism campaigner who works on racial equity and racial justice at Corra Foundation. I have to say that Shasta's time travellers' reflections from 2030 were possibly the most beautiful we've yet heard on 'From What If to What Next'. You are in for such a treat, some real possibility-stretching reflections on how the world of philanthropy needs to adapt to the times we're in. I hope you love this conversation, and I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
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Sep 25, 2023 • 1h 5min

86 - What if care, cooperation, kinship and collective wellbeing were the ethics we lived by?

When it comes to work that celebrates the radical imagination, Jayna Brown's recent book Black Utopias: Speculative Life and the Music of Other Worlds is one of the most fascinating that I've read recently. Jayna is professor in the Graduate Program in Media Studies at Pratt Institute, and for this episode she is joined by Kevin Quashie, who teaches black cultural and literary studies and is a professor in the department of English at Brown University. Together they take us on a deep dive into our What If question for this week and into many areas of discussion. It was such an honour to be joined by Jayna and Kevin for this episode. I hope you enjoy it, and I'd love to hear your thoughts.
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Sep 20, 2023 • 47min

84 - What if we had a Seaweed Revolution?

As soon as I started reading 'The Seaweed Revolution' by Vincent Doumeizel, I knew we would have to do an episode of this podcast about seaweed! It is a mind-blowing book about the many different ways in which expanding our relationship with seaweed could be good for us, our brains, our ecosystems and our climate, a book that sent my 'What If' brain racing. When we connected and planned this recording, Vincent suggested for our second guest Nancy Iraba, a marine scientist, seaweed entrepreneur, and founder of Healthy Seaweed Cafe in Tanzania. Together, let them transport you to a kelp forest somewhere and expand your mind as to the potential, promise and possibility of the seaweed revolution. And then go get yourself a copy of Vincent's book because it's incredible. And as always, do let us know what you thought of this conversation.
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Aug 28, 2023 • 44min

83 - What if we gave Nature rights?

This is a rather special episode, our first recorded in front of an actual audience! Recorded live at the wonderful Timber Festival, this episode takes on a big question and dives deep. Our first guest, Lucy Neal had, the previous day, presented a performance which explored how the near future would be transformed by the introduction of a Rights of Nature Act, and our second guest Paul Powlesland, a lawyer specialising in the subject, had appeared in the play and has done a lot of work on what legislation designed to protect the rights of nature might look like in practice. How would such legislation transform our relationship to the natural world, and how would it accelerate and support efforts to protect it? This is one of those episodes that opens up a beautiful What If space, helped by some great questions from the audience. I hope you love it, and I'd love to hear what you think. Thanks to the great team at Timber for making this possible.

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