

The Chad & Cheese Podcast
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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Dec 4, 2025 • 7min
Shredded: Tutor Intelligence, Jeeva AI, Helio AI , Pack, GoTu, Cyberr, LizzyAI, & More
The latest labor market trends reveal private payroll declines and softening demand due to economic shifts. Tudor Intelligence has secured $34M to scale AI-powered warehouse robots, while Jeeva AI's $9M funding aims to enhance its sales platform. Helio AI is set to revolutionize frontline recruiting with a $1M seed, and GoTo raises $45M to expand dental staffing. Meanwhile, Cyber is growing its cybersecurity marketplace with a €3M investment, and Lizzy AI is focusing on role-specific AI candidate assessments.

Dec 2, 2025 • 28min
ICE, ICE Baby with Desiree Throckmorton
Desiree Throckmorton, a senior consultant at OutSolve and former TA manager at Kaiser Permanente, delves into I-9 compliance amidst heightened ICE enforcement. She breaks down the I-9 process, sharing alarming details about the $170 billion ICE budget and plans for 15,000 inspections. Desiree highlights risks linked to incorrect documentation, remote verification, and recent high-profile raids. Employers are urged to centralize I-9 processes and conduct internal audits to avoid steep fines and non-compliance issues.

Nov 28, 2025 • 43min
TURKEYS: Indeed, Randstad, SHRM and....
This podcast delivers a hearty feast of banter, starting with family traditions that lead to a hilarious critique of soccer's newfound importance in the U.S. The conversation dives into AI’s transformative role in recruiting, alongside a roasting of ZipRecruiter’s podcast quality. You'll hear about corporate greed driving layoffs and not-so-great leadership at SHRM. The hosts share a spy saga involving Deel and Rippling, culminating in a Thanksgiving dad joke that's sure to crack you up!

Nov 25, 2025 • 32min
From Hi to Hired w/ Julia Levy
Julia Levy, a veteran talent acquisition leader and author of 'From Hi to Hired', dives into her 25 years of experience across various industries. She emphasizes the need for targeted problem-solving in HR tech, distinguishing true AI innovations from mere marketing fluff. Julia shares invaluable tips for college students facing a tough job market, including leveraging LinkedIn as a 'connector' and reframing rejections as learning experiences. She highlights the shrinking internship landscape and advocates for alternative career paths like trades and growth-oriented companies.

Nov 21, 2025 • 41min
Zoom & Workday Get Busy
Zoom's acquisition of BrightHire shakes up the landscape, aiming to outmaneuver Microsoft Teams. Meanwhile, Meta plans to integrate AI into performance reviews, sparking debates on job monitoring and the evolving tech landscape. In a shocking move, Verizon faces its largest layoff ever, revealing deeper market pressures. Workday embarks on a shopping spree to modernize HR tech, while candidates are increasingly turning to dating apps like Tinder and Bumble to find job opportunities. The discussions are ripe with truth bombs and a dose of humor!

Nov 20, 2025 • 6min
Shredded: Zoom, BrightHire, Equifax, Vault Verify, Employ Inc., Jobot, Workday, & More
The hosts dive into Zoom's strategic purchase of BrightHire to enhance AI-driven hiring tools. They discuss shifting job growth projections and mixed economic forecasts. A report reveals executives view agentic AI as co-workers, transforming organizational dynamics. Equifax's acquisition of Vault Verify bolsters verification services, while Employee Inc. introduces an AI screening tool for Lever to match candidates. Jobot's Jenny assistant streamlines recruiting. Surprisingly, voluntary quits decline amidst rising employee satisfaction, even as trust in AI hiring processes wanes.

Nov 18, 2025 • 36min
Team Intelligence w/ Jon Levy
Jon Levy, a behavioral scientist and New York Times bestselling author, joins to challenge traditional views on leadership. He reveals the pitfalls of the 'Super Chicken Problem' and the 'Too Much Talent Problem,' arguing that rewarding individual stars can undermine team performance. Levy also discusses how remote work has exacerbated the 'Airport Problem', leading to isolation and a loss of culture, and emphasizes the importance of diversity in skills over sheer talent. His insights can transform how teams collaborate and succeed together.

Nov 14, 2025 • 54min
Indeed Stranglehold Gets Tighter and Tighter
In a heated discussion, the hosts tackle Personio's layoffs and its U.S. exit, exploring the impact on competition. Indeed's new Connect offering raises eyebrows, with critiques on its monetization strategies. The introduction of ARPJ gets debated, revealing possible manipulation to please Wall Street. They delve into economic woes affecting fast food and how inflation is squeezing wallets. Personal anecdotes about favorite fast foods add a nostalgic twist to the conversation as they reflect on changing consumer habits.

Nov 13, 2025 • 8min
Shredded: Ridepanda, Planbase, Boostie, Scribe, LinkedIn, hireEZ, GigRadar, & More
In this episode, exciting funding news includes Ridepanda's $12.6M for e-bike innovation and PlanBase's launch of AI tools for healthcare staffing. Scribe reaches a staggering $1.3B valuation, while LinkedIn takes a stand against artificial engagement. The latest job market insights reveal a spike in layoffs attributed to AI disruptions and wage pressures highlighted by Monster's report. Plus, hireEZ introduces a new feature to catch manipulated resumes, reflecting the ongoing evolution in the recruitment landscape.

Nov 11, 2025 • 47min
5 Must Have Agents for TA w/ David Weinstock
David Weinstock, VP of Talent Acquisition at New Story, is a modern leader in fixing hiring processes. He shares insights on simplifying recruiting by focusing on the essential 10%, enhancing job postings, and utilizing AI in interviews. David discusses rising candidate expectations and the importance of personalized feedback. He dives into building AI job agents, implementing conversational bots, and using analytics to drive recruiting ROI. With his experience, he emphasizes the need for change management when adopting new technologies.


