

BE THAT LAWYER
Steve Fretzin
BE THAT LAWYER is for attorneys who want more freedom, enjoyment and most importantly, control in their career. Topics will include business development, marketing, branding, technology, and law firm growth. The goal is to educate, entertain and share best practices related to these topics, so that you, the listener can get real value. This is primarily an interview show with great guests (attorneys and legal marketing professionals), sharing stories and analogies, as well as engaging in personal discussions that will keep you entertained and coming back week after week.
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May 25, 2020 • 24min
Colleen Hurley: Working with a Synergistic Coach to Grow Your Book
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Colleen Hurley discuss:Colleen’s decision to hire a coach, and hiring a male coach, to grow her own book of business and business development skills.Finding a synergistic coaching relationship.Skills learned by working with Steve as her coach.What it takes to be successful in growing your book of business. Key Takeaways:Gender should not be a consideration in who you work with - it has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with the person and who you connect with for things to work well.By taking the pressure off, you’re more likely to work with someone as it doesn’t feel forced and you can build a genuine connection.Focus on your work product - you need to consistently provide quality representation for your book of business.If you care enough about something, you will make the time and prioritize it. Working with a coach can assist you in finding that time management while growing your book and strengthening you in your career. "The thing that is most helpful is doing great work for someone - because then they’re going to want to refer you, they’re going to want to give your name to a friend who needs that same level of work." — Colleen Hurley Connect with Colleen Hurley: Website: LavelleLaw.comPhone: 312-888-4112Email: CHurley@LavelleLaw.comLinkedIn: Colleen Hurley Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: The Ambitious Attorney: Your Guide to Doubling or Even Tripling Your Book of Business and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

May 18, 2020 • 33min
Christina Martini: Standing Out and Being More than Excellent
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Christina Martini discuss:Christina’s journey from engineering to law school and how she got into her current role as a partner in the non-patent aspects of IP law at McDermott Will & Emery in Chicago.Developing a book of business for those who aren’t necessarily in front of clients every day.Learning new languages and plans, working with coaches, and growing as a lawyer in business development.Staying connected and finding normalcy during COVID-19. Key Takeaways:The foundation of building your book of business is being excellent at what you do, developing your street cred, and enjoying being with clients, both figuratively and literally.It is important to put aside what your normal personality profile predilections are, get out there and make a name for yourself.Plans, processes, and languages are there to be learned and studied so that it becomes more normal and comfortable.Be as transparent as possible in the engagement process. "Being excellent at what you do is just the beginning." — Christina Martini Connect with Christina Martini: Twitter: @TinaMartini10Show: Paradigm Shift Podcast & Legal Face-OffWebsite: MWE.com & www.paradigmshiftshow.comLinkedIn: Christina Martini Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: The Ambitious Attorney: Your Guide to Doubling or Even Tripling Your Book of Business and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

May 11, 2020 • 38min
Next Level Networking
This episode was recorded prior to the Coronavirus epidemic, however, the ideas and methodologies still work in the virtual environment. In this episode, Steve Fretzin discusses in his training class:How to be efficient in a one-on-one meeting.Setting out a gameplan going into a networking meeting.Keeping the steps moving forward during the conversation.Scripting for networking situations. Key Takeaways:Keep the conversation balanced - if one person dominates the networking conversation, there is not an appropriate amount of communication to know if you’re going to work together.When working with someone new, start small. Baby steps to see if you’re a good fit working together.Bring something to the table at networking events even if you can’t bring anybody any new business that day.Be a giver. Help people first and it will be reciprocated if done intelligently. "We want to invest our time wisely with the right people. You want to set up some activity to continue to drive your new strategic partners to see if they’re a player and can go on your team." — Steve Fretzin Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: The Ambitious Attorney: Your Guide to Doubling or Even Tripling Your Book of Business and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

May 4, 2020 • 29min
Geo Bellas: The Changing Law Practice and the Vital Need for Understanding Technology
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Geo Bellas discuss:Geo’s long-term use of technology in law and how he has evolved as technology has evolved and will continue to evolve.Reverse mentoring with new lawyers to move into a technological world.The impact of AI in the law industry. Using technology to your advantage. Key Takeaways:Technology advancements have drastically accelerated over the last 30 years - as a lawyer, you need to continue to grow with that technology as it will continue to advance at an even greater rate. This pandemic is accelerating the pace of change - it is all going towards a technological world.Technology is allowing lawyers, and others in all professions, to serve those in underserved, and previously unrepresented communities. You must start thinking out of the box in order to survive in your law practice. "The old way of practicing is going to fade out, and is fading out. We have to learn how to live in that world, make money in that world, and, more importantly, serve our clients." — Geo Bellas Connect with Geo Bellas: Twitter: @GeoBellasFacebook: Bellas & Wachowski, Attorneys at LawWebsite: Bellas-Wachowski.comLinkedIn: Bellas & Wachowski & George “Geo” BellasJustia Lawyers: Bellas & Wachowski - Attorneys at Law Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: The Ambitious Attorney: Your Guide to Doubling or Even Tripling Your Book of Business and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

Apr 27, 2020 • 49min
Let’s Go Solo!: Tips and Ideas for Running and Succeeding with Your Own Law Practice
In this episode, Steve Fretzin discuss:Top 5 tips and ideas for starting your solo practice. Knowing your sweet spot in the marketplace and how to find it.Leveraging your network and going after the low hanging fruit first.Evolving and changing with the socioeconomic climate. Key Takeaways:Evaluate your strengths and your weaknesses - there is always something to leverage or improve.Consider rewriting your business plan to take into consideration the state of the world at this moment, it may have changed since last year or even since January. It’s not about creating a list, it’s about taking action on that list.If you don’t have a coach, have an accountability partner to help you to achieve your goals and help them to achieve their goals. "Your level of activity will determine your level of success." — Steve Fretzin Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: The Ambitious Attorney: Your Guide to Doubling or Even Tripling Your Book of Business and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

Apr 20, 2020 • 32min
Stacey Kalamaras: The Business of Law and Interacting with Others
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Stacey Kalamaras discuss:How she moved from marketing and advertising to her second career in intellectual property law.Adding value to your team and your company overall in whatever way you can.Understanding how to interact with people to understand their problems. What to do when networking, branding, and growing your book of business. Key Takeaways:Understanding your client’s business will give them faith and trust in you as the lawyer.Developing your book of business can be difficult, and it will be individual for every lawyer. Play to your strengths in connecting with people and potential clients. It’s the business of law - you can’t practice without your own clients. "Remember, regardless of what size firm you go into, your internal partners are your clients. You need to make those people happy. If you make them happy, not only with your work product, but also with your can-do attitude, word is going to spread and everyone is going to want to work with you." — Stacey Kalamaras Connect with Stacey Kalamaras: Twitter: @LegalKloWebsite: klolegal.comEmail: info@klolegal.comPhone: 708-320-2033LinkedIn: Kalamaras Law Office, LLC & Stacey Kalamaras Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: The Ambitious Attorney: Your Guide to Doubling or Even Tripling Your Book of Business and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

Apr 13, 2020 • 21min
Teachable Moments: Marketing Plan
In this episode, Steve Fretzin discusses:Developing a tactical, actionable marketing/prospecting plan.The 3 P’s Methodology.Narrowing your strategy focus to best achieve your objectives.The power of deadlines and following through on those deadlines. Key Takeaways:Improve your process along the way with feedback to improve your performance.Write down your objective, think about your strategies, and consider the low hanging fruit.Lay out tactics once you decide on your strategies to actually understand how you are spending your time.If you fail to plan, you plan to fail. "There is a process for everything related to business development from how you run a meeting with a friend to get an introduction, how you meet with a prospective client and walk them through a buying decision, how you drive client loyalty, so that your clients never leave. There's processes that I've developed for everything." — Steve Fretzin Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: The Ambitious Attorney: Your Guide to Doubling or Even Tripling Your Book of Business and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

Apr 6, 2020 • 27min
Tom Ciesielka: PR for Lawyers
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Tom Ciesielka discuss:Reason why lawyers and law firms may need to work with a PR firm. Mitigating problems and promoting or publicizing when appropriate.Public relations and social media.Delegating social media to get it personalized for you when you have time. Key Takeaways:In PR, your words have to be just as precise as they would need to be in a law brief. Getting out first is a great way to put yourself in front of others.Social media often drives mainstream media.LinkedIn is both social and professional. It is a great way to connect with those you may not otherwise be able to. "Don’t get mad, get proactive." — Tom Ciesielka Connect with Tom Ciesielka: Twitter: @TomciesielkaFacebook: TC Public RelationsWebsite: TCPR.netLinkedIn: Thomas CiesielkaPhone: 312-422-1333 Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: The Ambitious Attorney: Your Guide to Doubling or Even Tripling Your Book of Business and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

Mar 30, 2020 • 17min
Five Steps to Grow Your Law Practice During a Pandemic
In this episode, Steve Fretzin discusses:Handling the pandemic from a business standpoint.5 constructive ways to maintain and grow your practice.Leveraging social media and creating content.Building client loyalty. Key Takeaways:Evaluate your personal and business standpoint and what challenges are being faced and the opportunities that exist at this time.Take time with developing your personal and firm brand, creating new content, and finding ways to connect.Connect with people and be a resource when you can.Check in on your current and past clients, prospects, and strategic partners. See how they are doing and how you may be able to help. "Really thinking about developing your brand now is the right time. To just sit back, let this all blow over, and hope for the best is probably not the strongest play right now. You're going to want to get active with calling people, emailing people, content development, technology development - this is going to be a make or break for a lot of people." — Steve Fretzin Connect with Steve Fretzin: LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: The Ambitious Attorney: Your Guide to Doubling or Even Tripling Your Book of Business and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

Mar 23, 2020 • 25min
Jerry Maatman: Creating a Successful, Sustainable Practice
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Jerry Maatman discuss:The evolution of being a lawyer since Jerry started practicing in 1981.What goes beyond being a great lawyer that is critical to a successful, sustainable practice.Being responsive to your client in the age of the internet.Four Steps for going above and beyond what the standard lawyer is doing. Key Takeaways:You must be a great lawyer, a great problem solver, and have a great book of business.Resolve every day on how you will find the next case, the next project, the next client. Find ways to keep yourself supercharged and wanting to be the best lawyer you can be.Persistence, diligence, and dedication are key to being more than just a lawyer to your clients.If you’re not thinking about business development, someone else is stealing that work from you because they are thinking about it. "The first is you need to invest in yourself. You need your time. Be your own best friend when it comes to business development. And by that, I mean you need to set aside time, not once a month, but every day to polish your brand, to enhance your skills, and to deepen your relationships." — Jerry Maatman Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: The Ambitious Attorney: Your Guide to Doubling or Even Tripling Your Book of Business and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Show notes by Podcastologist Chelsea Taylor-Sturkie Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.


