

Odd Lots
Bloomberg
Bloomberg's Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway explore the most interesting topics in finance, markets and economics. Join the conversation every Monday and Thursday.
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Feb 6, 2026 • 33min
Lots More With Charlie McElligott on This Week's SaaSpocalypse
Charlie McElligott, cross-asset macro strategist at Nomura known for market-flow and positioning analysis, breaks down how market mechanics have shifted. He walks through crowded trades, tight stops, leveraged ETF dynamics, and why software, bitcoin and gold moved differently. Conversation highlights the role of leverage, low-vol strategies, and feedback loops in recent wild market moves.

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Feb 6, 2026 • 51min
How a Former Fed Vice-Chair Is thinking About the Next Fed Chair
Richard Clarida, former Federal Reserve vice chair and PIMCO advisor, offers a concise take on monetary leadership. He discusses how a Fed chair persuades colleagues and shapes meetings. He explains Fed-Treasury coordination, forward guidance mechanics, and why dialing back guidance could boost bond-market volatility. He also touches on balance-sheet policy, productivity debates, and political pressures on central-bank independence.

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Feb 5, 2026 • 42min
This Is How The US Can Become a Player in Rare Earth Metals
Heidi Crebo-Rediker, a CFR senior fellow and former State Department chief economist, lays out how the U.S. could challenge China in rare earths. She discusses U.S. resources and recycling opportunities. She explores new extraction technologies, commercialization bottlenecks, and policy tools — including public venture-style capital and coordinated industrial consortia to scale supply.

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Feb 3, 2026 • 51min
The Surprising Similarity Between the US and Chinese Internets
Yi-Ling Liu, author and researcher of the Chinese internet, explores how users navigate freedom and censorship behind the Great Firewall. She discusses the origins of internet utopianism, grassroots communities and coded evasion tactics. Conversations cover moderation labor, online nationalism, cross-border social media exchanges, and why technological centralization pushed both US and Chinese internets toward similar tribal outcomes.

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Feb 2, 2026 • 46min
The Utilities Analyst Who Says the Data Center Demand Story Doesn't Add Up
Andy DeVries, co-head of investment grade credit and head of utilities and power at CreditSights, is a utilities specialist who scrutinizes infrastructure math. He challenges the big data-center demand narrative. He compares firm utility commitments with projected load and examines collateral signals, forward power curves, transmission limits, and who pays if capacity is overbuilt.

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Jan 30, 2026 • 26min
Lots More With Skanda Amarnath on the Risks of Kevin Warsh
Skanda Amarnath, Executive Director of Employ America and policy commentator, offers analysis on Kevin Warsh’s nomination and Fed credibility. He discusses Warsh’s crisis-era calls, shifts in policy tied to politics, risks of politicizing data-driven decisions, and why relationships and trust matter when the Fed faces future crises.

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Jan 30, 2026 • 40min
Jeff Currie on the Crazy Surge in Metals, And Why The Supercycle Has Years to Run
Jeff Currie, Partner at Carlyle and former Goldman Sachs commodities lead, explains why metals are surging and a multi-year supercycle may be starting. He discusses copper, gold, and silver rallies. He highlights China’s big role, silver’s dual industrial and retail appeal, and why current prices feel like foothills rather than a peak.

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Jan 29, 2026 • 52min
What It's Like to Do Big Ag Business in Venezuela and Ukraine
Jeff Kazin, cofounder of AgrisAcademy and former Cargill executive who ran Venezuelan operations, shares firsthand stories from tough markets. He and colleagues discuss dollar shortages, hyperinflation, logistics theft, security costs, and how multinationals keep brands and operations running. Short vignettes cover crypto workarounds, rebuilding needs, and practical advice for operating where institutions are weak.

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Jan 26, 2026 • 1h 3min
What It Takes to Build One of the World's Biggest Banks
Bill Demchak, CEO of PNC Financial and leader of a major national bank, talks strategy and scale. He discusses why branch density still matters, the bank’s cautious M&A stance, how regulation shapes competition, and practical AI uses for document reading and workflow automation. Short, clear takes on growth, integration, and modern banking infrastructure.

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Jan 23, 2026 • 52min
Blackstone's Michael Zawadzki on How Private Credit Got so Big
Michael Zawadzki, Global CIO for Blackstone Credit and Insurance, dives into the explosive growth of private credit over the last two decades. He discusses how large-scale direct lending has shaped AI financing, emphasizing the high demand for capital in digital infrastructure. Michael highlights the advantages of scale in securing major deals and the evolution of risk management within private lending. He addresses the competitive landscape, future trends, and the advantages that insurers find in private credit assets. The conversation also touches on the role of AI tools in the investment process.


