

Work From The Inside Out
Tammy Gooler Loeb
Work From The Inside Out is a biweekly podcast focused on helping people to pursue work they will love. Inspiring stories of real people who overcame the barriers and unhappiness that kept them feeling stuck in a career are featured. Practical tips and approaches for moving into more meaningful, satisfying, and fulfilling work are shared by experts in the field. Go to www.tammygoolerloeb.com/podcast to learn more!
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Sep 29, 2021 • 51min
144: Build Your Promotability with Amii Barnard-Bahn
When Amii Barnard-Bahn graduated from college with an English degree, she didn’t know what she wanted. So she applied to law school. Amii said, “It was kind of a crazy, interesting thing to do.” Attending Georgetown Law School, she tapped the advocate within wanting to impact social change. She worked as an ACLU fellow and took the first LGBT sexual orientation class ever taught at a law school. Amii was the T.A. for Dr. Anthony Cook, a well-known scholar in critical race theory, and served as editor on her law journal. Amii’s piece on the black women’s anti-lynching movement in the 1890s was published in the UCLA Women’s Law Journal, resulting in her coining the term critical race feminism, now used regularly.Upon graduation, Amii worked for a small employment law firm where she had the unique chance to handle both plaintiff and defendant cases. While it was a valuable experience, billable hours, and metrics were not aligned with her values. After three-plus years with the firm, Amii resigned although she did not know what she wanted to do next. She said it was the scariest thing she ever did, but Amii wanted to find a better way to help people. Amii spent nine months exploring her options, determining that her qualifications and interests were best suited to Human Resources where she could combine her legal background with her dedication to equity, compliance, and ethics. She also pursued her graduate certificate in coaching through the Hudson Institute. Amii served in executive roles for McKesson, the California Dental Association, and Tetra Tech.Today, Amii's an executive coach and consultant to C suite leaders at global companies like Adobe, and The Gap. Amii guest lectures at Stanford and UC Berkeley, and is a contributor to Harvard Business Review, Fast Company, and Compliance Week, and is a fellow at the Harvard Institute of Coaching. She developed the Promotability Index Self-Assessment and published The PI Guidebook that works along with the assessment results.In this week’s Work From The Inside Out podcast, learn more about Amii’’s journey:Amii is recognized by Forbes as one of the top coaches for legal and compliance executives, and she is a member of Marshall Goldsmith 100 coaches. She testified for the successful passage of the first laws in the US requiring corporate boards to include women. Learn more and connect with Amii here: TwitterWebsiteLinkedInInstagramFacebookStay Connected:Connect with Tammy on LinkedIn@TammyGoolerLoeb on InstagramWork From The Inside Out WebsiteSubscribe to newsletter

Sep 22, 2021 • 51min
143: Take Time to Discover your Real Interests with Jeff Hull
When Dr. Jeffrey Hull was a little kid he wanted to be Elton John but he realized he could not play the piano well enough. In high school, he took a class called the history of ideas and fell in love with looking at how Western thought and Buddhist Eastern thought had developed. Jeff went on to college, continuing his interest in different worldviews, what is also known as the perennial philosophy. He loved philosophy and wanted to become a university professor, but when he came home on a break and shared his idea with his mother she responded, “Are you out of your mind? That’s not a real job.” So Jeff pursued a career in business and focused on human resources which tied in with his other interest of his in psychology. He found that his studies in Philosophy informed some of his interactions with people on the job. Jeff worked in a few different companies, the last one being Booz Allen Hamilton where he was promoted to take on global responsibilities at a fairly young age. In his late 30s, he decided to return to school to study psychotherapy and earned his doctorate in clinical psychology. While he loved the education, he realized after practicing psychotherapy for a few years that he preferred the more results-oriented business approach he had experienced in mentoring and coaching people on the job, so he became a coach, focusing on the practical and short-term, transformational activities with clients. Today, Jeff is the CEO of Leadershift, Inc, a management and leadership development consultancy, and he is also a clinical instructor in psychology at Harvard Medical School and an adjunct professor of leadership at New York University. In this week’s Work From The Inside Out podcast, learn more about Jeff’s journey:Jeff is the Director of Global Development at Harvard’s Institute of Coaching, a Harvard Medical School affiliate. He is the author of the best-selling book Flex, the Art and Science of Leadership in a Changing World.Learn more and connect with Jeff here:WebsiteLinkedInTwitterStay Connected:Connect with Tammy on LinkedIn@TammyGoolerLoeb on InstagramWork From The Inside Out WebsiteSubscribe to newsletter

Sep 15, 2021 • 1h 10min
142: Get Clear on Where You are Going with Dave Fano
At age 9, Dave Fano started collecting comic books because his big brother was into them. Then, he discovered that different editions and collections had value. By 14, he got a job at a comic book store where he also bought and traded his own comic books. For Dave, it was mostly about having fun, and of course, he enjoyed making money.The son of Cuban immigrants, Dave grew up in Miami. In high school, he worked for his Dad’s construction company as an estimator. At graduation, he told his Dad that he wanted to go to art school, to be an artist. Dad said, “That's not a real job. You can't make a living doing that. That's a hard life.” So, at the last minute, Dave applied to college and majored in architecture at Columbia University, seeing it as a compromise between art and the design side of construction. But he knew that it wasn't what he wanted to do. Every step of the way, Dave wondered, ‘how can I hack this education to be something else?’ As he finished his undergrad degree, he became aware of 3-D digital architecture which appealed to him as he loved technology. Dave applied to Columbia’s highly competitive graduate program in digital architecture and he got in. Dave worked as an architect while being on the adjunct faculty at Columbia’s Graduate School of Architecture for a few years. He then co-founded the technology consulting firm CASE in 2008, growing it to 63 employees. They worked with clients such as Google, Disney and Apple. In 2015 CASE was acquired by their client, WeWork, the coworking space company. At WeWork, Dave held the titles Chief Product Officer, Chief Technology Officer, Chief Development Officer, and eventually Chief Growth Officer. Today, Dave is focusing his passion on empowering people with tools & resources to grow their careers as Founder & CEO of Teal. He is on a mission to empower professionals with the guidance and resources they need to make career decisions with confidence. In this week’s Work From The Inside Out podcast, learn more about Dave’s journey:At WeWork, Dave partnered to launch product lines such as WeWork Enterprise, WeWork HQ, and We Membership. In under 1 year, the team at Teal has grown the platform & community to over 20,000 users committed to growing their careers.Learn more and connect with Dave here:TwitterLinkedInWebsiteStay Connected:Connect with Tammy on LinkedIn@TammyGoolerLoeb on InstagramWork From The Inside Out WebsiteSubscribe to newsletter

Sep 8, 2021 • 51min
141: Become a Self Evolved Leader with Dave McKeown
As the founder and CEO of Outfield Leadership, Dave McKeown speaks, coaches, and trains organizations to build cultures of authentic, results-driven leadership, moving from execution to excellence. When I heard the name of Dave’s business, I immediately thought of baseball, but then I wondered what would the outfield have to do with leadership? So, of course, I asked him. The first thing you need to know is that while Dave lives in California today, he grew up in Belfast, Northern Ireland, towards the back end of the turmoil there. Those early years probably influenced his views of leadership and the outfield? Well, you can find out by listening to today’s podcast episode, if you are curious.When he graduated from high school, Dave spent two years doing volunteer work and traveling throughout India, Australia, and the United States. Returning to the UK, he went to Glasgow Scotland to study business and became quickly interested in the human side of business. His Dad was a consultant in the leadership development space which also sparked his interest. After graduation, he worked for the global consulting firm, Accenture in Hong Kong. Later, he moved to become the COO and then President of Predictable Success, a boutique consultancy focusing on helping complex businesses achieve scalability. Dave then moved to the US and joined his Dad’s consulting business. Four years ago he started Outfield Leadership.Today, Dave helps individuals, teams, and organizations achieve results by doing ordinary things extraordinarily well. He is also the author of The Self Evolved Leader, Elevate Your Focus and Develop Your People in a World that Refuses to Slow Down, a practical guide to help you elevate your focus, develop your people, and get more done.In this week’s Work From The Inside Out podcast, learn more about Dave’s journey:Dave writes a weekly column for Inc.com.He enjoys connecting individual and team performance to improved business results with a particular focus on fast-growing, complex organizations.Learn more and connect with Dave here: FacebookLinkedInTwitterInstagramWebsiteStay Connected:Connect with Tammy on LinkedIn@TammyGoolerLoeb on InstagramWork From The Inside Out WebsiteSubscribe to newsletter

Sep 1, 2021 • 57min
140: Become Forever Employable with Jeff Gothelf
In his twenties, Jeff Gothelf wanted to be a rock star. After college, he spent a year as a sound and lighting tech for the Clyde Beatty Cole Bros. Circus. Then he started a band and he worked as a touring musician, playing the piano. For the next few years, he formed and managed several bands.Once he realized that his music career was not going to cover his bills, Jeff, then 26, migrated into the tech world. In those days, you could learn on the job. He was trained in HTML and web design. Over the next nine years, he progressed through a series of roles in different software companies increasing his income, responsibilities, skills and developing his reputation as a UX expert. Then the dot com bubble burst and while he continued to survive in the industry, Jeff knew he needed to do something else. By then he had a young family. Jeff hired a business coach to explore his options.Today, Jeff works as a coach, consultant, and keynote speaker, helping companies bridge the gaps between business agility, digital transformation, product management, and Human-Centered Design. He helps organizations and executives build the cultures that build better products. Through the use of concepts like design thinking, lean, UX, and agile software development, Jeff brings a new approach to running organizations and the departments within them, most recently focusing on human resources, and how they can be more agile as well as supporting agility in the organization.In this week’s Work From The Inside Out podcast, learn more about Jeff’s journey:Jeff’s most recent book, Forever Employable: How to Stop Looking for Work and Let Your Next Job Find You, was published in June 2020.He is the co-author of the award-winning Lean UX: Designing Great Products with Agile Teams and the Harvard Business Review Press book, Sense & Respond: How Successful Organizations Listen to Customers and Create New Products ContinuouslyLearn more and connect with Jeff here: LinkedInTwitterWebsite Stay Connected:Connect with Tammy on LinkedIn@TammyGoolerLoeb on InstagramWork From The Inside Out WebsiteSubscribe to newsletter

Aug 25, 2021 • 57min
139: How to Work Alone with Rebecca Seal
Rebecca Seal is a recovering people pleaser. In her teens and early twenties, she made choices that were based on what she thought other people expected of her. Whether those perceptions were true or not, Rebecca had no idea, but she did feel pressured to get into a prestigious university. She was an excellent student which enabled her to land a spot at the London School of Economics (LSE) to study international relations, which she found challenging for several reasons. At eighteen, Rebecca did not know what she wanted to do, had never been away from home, and was no longer the big fish in a small pond. It was unsettling and painful. Upon graduation, Rebecca attempted to secure employment with an NGO or the UN, but she could not even get an interview. She returned home to Oxford and waited tables. She felt horribly stuck at the time, but today believes it was a good experience. The lessons learned from the hospitality industry made her a better team player and enabled her to grow as a manager and leader. Rebecca still wanted to pursue her interest in international relations so she returned to London to get her master's at Kings College. In the middle of her program, she got a job at the Observer newspaper, which became her first professional role as a journalist. As she started there thinking she would work as a foreign correspondent, Rebecca became the paper’s food writer and editor for six years. She then departed the paper during a tough economic period and decided to try her hand at being a freelance writer.Twelve years later, Rebecca has authored nine cookbooks and continues to be a freelance journalist mostly writing about food and drink. Additionally, she had the opportunity to host a weekly TV show on Sunday mornings about brunch and related topics for 4 years. Six years ago she had an idea for a book about how to survive working alone, because she was feeling alone as a freelancer: SOLO: How To Work Alone (And Not Lose Your Mind). In this week’s Work From The Inside Out podcast, learn more about Rebecca’s journey:Rebecca gives talks and workshops, as well as writing articles, on coping with solitary working, to all sorts of people around the world. She continues to write and publish cookbooks, and to work for UK newspapers.Learn more and connect with Rebecca here:Facebook: Rebecca Seal WriterLinkedInFacebookInstagramWebsiteVisit: How To Work AloneStay Connected:Connect with Tammy on LinkedIn@TammyGoolerLoeb on InstagramWork From The Inside Out WebsiteSubscribe to newsletter

Aug 18, 2021 • 48min
138: Take on New Challenges with Dawn Graham
Early in her career, Dr. Dawn Graham experienced her first wake-up call (and it wasn’t a friendly voice calling from the front desk). Working for the large management consulting company, Arthur Andersen, equipped with her master's degree, she had just taken a new role when the Enron scandal erupted. Dawn was doing everything right but still got laid off along with tens of thousands of others. Then, she did all the wrong things. She only did online job applications and didn't network. Dawn is an introvert by nature. She believed that just doing great work was enough. But now all of her colleagues were laid off, so the people she would have leaned on were not available. Additionally, listing Arthur Andersen on her resume was not positive as people associated her with the scandal. So, there was Dawn with strong skills from a company that no longer existed, a network that couldn't help, and a brand on her resume that was negative. Dawn didn't talk to people because she felt ashamed. It was hard not to take it personally. Oh… and Dawn was in the middle of a divorce, too. She turned to restaurant work as she knew it well from her younger days and took time to reflect. Dawn also signed up with a temporary agency, which landed her work in an outplacement firm, and there she realized that she was not alone in her fears or pain.Dawn never wanted to feel that kind of pain or fear again and she wanted to create a situation where others would not have to go through those experiences. She decided to go to graduate school for her doctorate in counseling psychology.Today, Dawn is a career switch coach, TEDx Speaker, LinkedIn Learning Instructor, and Host of the popular call-in show “Dr. Dawn on Careers” on SiriusXM Radio (channel 132). She is the Career Director for the Executive MBA Program at The Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania.In this week’s Work From The Inside Out podcast, learn more about Dawn’s journey:Dawn is the author of Switchers: How Smart Professionals Change Careers and Seize Success which gives people the strategies to overcome obstacles and land the job they want. This book is at the top of my list for people in career transition.She is a regular contributor to Forbes.com under the leadership channel.Learn more and connect with Dawn here: LinkedInTwitterWebsiteStay Connected:Connect with Tammy on LinkedIn@TammyGoolerLoeb on InstagramWork From The Inside Out WebsiteSubscribe to newsletter

Aug 11, 2021 • 50min
137: Do More With What You Have with Scott Sonenshein
Scott Sonnenschein, Ph.D. is the Henry Gardner Simmons Professor of Management at Rice University, and a New York Times best-selling author whose books are translated into over 20 languages. Last year, he co-authored Joy at Work: Managing Your Professional Life with Marie Kondo. In this week’s podcast, we discuss his book, Stretch: Unlock the Power of Less and Achieve More Than You Ever Imagined. Scott never intended to be an academic, a professor, nor a writer. He studied economics and philosophy in college. In his senior year, Scott followed his siblings’ example by applying and getting accepted to law school. Before he made his final decision Scott met with his University of Virginia mentor who asked him, “What appeals to you about going to law school?”Recalling that decisive moment, Scott shared, “I don't think we take enough time to reflect on our choices. We get into what we believe are socially prescribed pathways for what an acceptable career looks like. I was going down that lane. If it were not for his prodding, I would have gone to law school. I may have enjoyed it, but I doubt it. I'm glad he challenged me.”Scott went to England for a year-long graduate program which fueled his interests in research, organizational psychology, and the quality of people’s day-to-day work experiences. He returned to his mentor, expressing his interest in further graduate school and he said, “No, first get a regular job and see how you like it.” Scott became a strategy consultant in Washington, DC. One year later, he received a call from a recruiter at a Silicon Valley startup. They offered him double his salary, a fancy title, a chance to manage people, and oversight of a seven-figure budget. Scott made the trip out there to check it out and three weeks later, he moved to Silicon Valley. In his book, Stretch, Scott calls actions such as this, a chaser, in which individuals or organizations see that more is always the answer to things; i.e. the more people we hire, the faster we grow, or the bigger we get, the better we're going to be. Scott learned that was not the case when the dot com bubble dried up. While he managed to survive four rounds of downsizing, Scott knew he needed a more solid plan. He was ready to go to graduate school.In this week’s Work From The Inside Out podcast, learn more about Scott’s journey:Scott holds a Ph.D. in organizational behavior from the University of Michigan, a master's in philosophy from the University of Cambridge, and a BA from the University of Virginia.His research, teaching, and speaking have helped fortune 500 executives, entrepreneurs, and professionals in technology, energy, healthcare, retail, education, banking, manufacturing, and nonprofits.Learn more and connect with Scott here:FacebookTwitterInstagram Read reviews, post a review or add to your Goodreads.Stay Connected:Connect with Tammy on LinkedIn@TammyGoolerLoeb on InstagramWork From The Inside Out WebsiteSubscribe to newsletter

Aug 4, 2021 • 37min
136: Design a Life You Love with Michele Lamoureux
Michele Lamoureux has always had a love for people and a deep curiosity about their stories. As a kid, she loved to watch Merv Griffin, Phil Donahue, and later Oprah, thinking she wanted to be a talk show host. Michele knew she wanted to help people and once in college, thought a career in law would meet that goal. She ‘tried it on’ as a paralegal in a major law firm in Boston. She loved it, the people and culture of the firm were vibrant and she felt valued. Then Michele reached a turning point. Should she go to law school? Michele interviewed several partners in her firm to learn more and 90% of them told her not to go to law school, but rather to get her MBA. At 24, the decision against law school was big, yet she wasn’t ready to dive into the MBA. Michele had a friend who worked as a recruiter and it looked ‘cool’. She was able to get hired placing marketing professionals in high-tech startups. Within no time, Michele hated it, particularly because her boss was a micromanager. She did, however, discover that she liked the marketing roles she was placing candidates in and decided to pursue that angle. Coincidentally, her old law firm was seeking a marketing assistant! It was serendipitous, needless to say. Six months later, her boss took a new job and invited Michele to join her there. This decision was hard but she turned her down as loyalty and integrity were core values. The next day, the partners offered Michele the Director of Marketing role on a probationary basis with a high visibility project on her plate, to produce a high tech conference in Dublin, Ireland. Michele had yet to attend a conference in her career, let alone in another country. Good thing she loved a challenge! Michele calls this her unqualified success.Michele spent over 15 years in corporate America, leading international branding campaigns for professional service firms. Today she is an author, podcast host, speaker, and coach who guides women to own their lives and love themselves. She lives in San Diego, California.In this week’s Work From The Inside Out podcast, learn more about Michele’s journey:Michele hosts The Good Life Coach podcast, interviewing New York Times best-selling authors, experts, and female entrepreneurs in the areas of business, health, relationships, money, spirituality, and more to guide women to their full potential. She is the author of the book Design a Life You Love, Michele teaches self-love as the gateway to all you desire in life.Michele has been a certified empowerment coach for 16 years. Learn more and connect with Michele here:InstagramLinkedInWebsiteStay Connected:Connect with Tammy on LinkedIn@TammyGoolerLoeb on InstagramWork From The Inside Out WebsiteSubscribe to newsletter

Jul 28, 2021 • 37min
135: Live and Lead with Greater Purpose and Grace with John Baldoni
John Baldoni is a globally recognized leadership educator, a highly sought-after executive coach, and author of fifteen books that have been translated into ten languages. Impressive, right? John grew up in Perrysburg, Ohio where his mother served as Mayor and today at 92 remains very involved in the community. His maternal grandfather was a Detroit-based news photographer who fueled John’s lifelong love of photography. His father was a physician who went to medical school in Ann Arbor, Michigan where coincidentally John has raised his family for the past thirty years. When his Dad was a fourth-year med student he physically bumped into Dr. Jonas Salk as he was headed to announce his discovery of the polio vaccine. John Baldoni comes from impressive roots, don’t you agree? In addition to his parents, he credits his Jesuit education for instilling the principles of accountability, responsibility, and making a positive difference as being foundational to his life and work as a leadership expert.John’s newest book, Grace Notes: Leading in an Upside-Down World, was inspired by his experience playing piano in a hospital lobby (pre-COVID) and unlike his other books, is written in short prose-like pieces, along with his unique approach to black and white photography. John coaches senior leaders in virtually every industry from pharmaceutical to real estate, packaged goods to automobiles, and finance to healthcare. In 2021, the International Federation of Learning and Development named him a World-Class Mentor and to its Hall of Fame. Since 2007, Global Gurus has ranked him a Top 30 Global Leadership Expert. Inc.com named John a Top 100 speaker in 2018 and a Top 50 leadership expert in 2014. John is a member of Marshall Goldsmith’s 100 coaches, a group of executive coaches and thought leaders from the worlds of business, academia, and social service. In this week’s Work From The Inside Out podcast, learn more about John’s journey:John’s other books include MOXIE: The Secret to Bold and Gutsy Leadership, Lead by Example, Lead Your Boss, and The Leader’s Pocket Guide.He has authored 800+ online articles in Forbes, Harvard Business Review and Inc.comJohn produces and appears in a video coaching series for SmartBrief, a news channel with over 4 million readers.He is the host of LinkedIn Live’s Grace Under Pressure interview series.Learn more and connect with John here: TwitterLinkedInWebsiteForbesStay Connected:Connect with Tammy on LinkedIn@TammyGoolerLoeb on InstagramWork From The Inside Out WebsiteSubscribe to newsletter


