The No Film School Podcast

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Apr 3, 2026 • 1h 6min

How a $30K Animated Indie Scored a Theatrical Run — Then Landed on HBO

Julian Glander, animator-director who made the microbudget animated feature Boys Go to Jupiter for about $30,000, shares his DIY path from self-teaching Blender to premiering at Tribeca. He talks scrappy production charm, a 50+ festival tour, festival strategies and financing, building a theatrical rollout with Cartuna, and how the film ultimately landed on HBO Max.
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Mar 27, 2026 • 1h 1min

The AI Doc Breakdown — Filmmaking in the Age of Uncertainty

Daysha Broadway, film editor who shaped The AI Doc’s craft; Davis Coombe, documentary editor experienced in essay-led films; Charlie Tyrell, co-director known for mixed-media and animation. They discuss making an essay-style documentary around impending parenthood and AI. The team’s collaborative editorial workflow, ethical choices of featuring a co-director as subject, and the film’s handcrafted animation and practical effects are highlighted.
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Mar 26, 2026 • 35min

Pete Ohs' 2026 Distribution Experiment #1: 'OBEX'

Pete Ohs, filmmaker known for microbudget features and festival premieres, recounts OBEX’s DIY Baltimore shoot and $14k production. He breaks down how Sundance buzz led to an Oscilloscope U.S. deal, the January theatrical rollout, booking mechanics, Q&A touring, marketing choices, and conserving creative energy during release.
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Mar 19, 2026 • 56min

SXSW 2026 Was Where Film and AI Met as Frenemies

Ryan Koo and Jourdan Aldredge report from Austin during the 2026 SXSW Film & TV Festival, reflecting on how the event felt different after the convention center overhaul and how the festival’s film and tech worlds collided more directly than ever. They discuss the growing tension between filmmakers and artificial intelligence, the value of human intuition in directing and storytelling, standout panels and screenings, and what Ryan learned while serving on the narrative shorts jury. The episode also highlights how SXSW continues to champion bold filmmaking, practical craft insights, and the importance of in-person creative community at a moment when AI is reshaping the industry. In this episode, No Film School's Ryan Koo and Jourdan Aldredge discuss... How SXSW 2026 felt different on the ground after the festival’s reorganization across downtown Austin Why AI became one of the defining themes of this year’s SXSW conversations, panels, and screenings Ryan’s takeaway from Steven Spielberg’s SXSW appearance and his emphasis on intuition in filmmaking The documentary The AI Doc and how it framed AI through both filmmaking and fears about the future The tension between slick AI-generated imagery and the value of human-made, lived-in artistic choices Ryan’s experience serving as a narrative shorts juror and what he learned from watching all 19 shorts in competition Why short films need to stand on their own instead of only functioning as proof-of-concept features How filmmakers today are reaching an incredibly high level of craft across directing, cinematography, and performance The narrative shorts that stood out to Ryan, including Supper and Souvenir, which won the jury honors Jourdan’s spotlight on Mantis Stream (Like and Subscribe) and why inventive midnight filmmaking still feels vital Boots Riley’s I Love Boosters as a bold opening-night film and a perfect example of SXSW’s creative identity What they learned from SXSW panels on documentary storytelling, virtual production, immersive audio, and emerging filmmaking tools Why film festivals and in-person artistic gatherings feel even more essential in an increasingly virtual world Memorable Quotes: “The human hand of it is the point of art.” “I’d as soon eat nails, then use AI in my films.” “Go to festivals, make friends, make art, mess up.” Resources: No Film School SXSW coverage Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mar 14, 2026 • 39min

The Horror in What You Don’t See—How Sound and Rhythm Build Suspense in 'Undertone'

In this episode, No Film School host GG Hawkins speaks with editor Sonny Atkins about shaping fear through sound, rhythm, and restraint in the horror feature Undertone. Atkins breaks down how the film’s audio-first concept influenced everything from the script to the cut, why long pauses and musical timing can heighten dread, and how a deeply personal story about grief and caregiving evolved through the editorial process. He also shares practical insights into working scrappy on a low-budget feature, using Premiere Pro’s Productions workflow, speech-to-text, temp sound design, and test screenings to refine both story and suspense. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Sonny Atkins discuss... How Undertone began as an audio-driven concept and why that immediately stood out in the script Why sound design became central to the edit, not just an atmospheric layer The challenge of building horror around what the audience hears instead of what they see How Ian Tuason’s personal experience with caregiving and grief shaped the emotional core of the film Discovering story solutions in post, including the addition of a saved voicemail from the protagonist’s mother Creating distinct sonic and visual worlds between the downstairs living space and the mother’s upstairs room What it took to make a low-budget Canadian horror feature feel polished and cinematic Why Atkins cut his first assembly extremely short, then built the film back up from its essential skeleton How rhythm, blank space, and even drum rudiments became part of the team’s language for suspense Using Premiere Pro’s Productions workflow to keep a feature edit organized and responsive How speech-to-text helped manage ADR, offscreen dialogue, and hundreds of audio files Why editors should mock up sound ideas early for test screenings instead of waiting for the final sound team How Frame.io helped organize notes with timecode-based feedback Why humor can be an important release valve inside horror Career advice on longevity, mentorship, process, and closing the gap between taste and ability Memorable Quotes: “Because in this film, sound isn't just part of the atmosphere, it's the engine of the story.” “A lot of it's about rhythm and where to leave blank space, and that kind of stuff.” “The people who make it in this business are the people who don't quit. It's a longevity game.” “If your focus is really just not about making the work really good and working a lot, you can sort of inoculate yourself against having your heart broken over and over again.” Guests: Sonny Atkins (IMDb) Resources: Undertone on IMDb The Gap by Ira Glass Taylor Mason on editing Him for No Film School Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mar 12, 2026 • 46min

Director Amy Wang Reveals the Job That Keeps Filmmakers Working After Film School

Writer-director Amy Wang joins the No Film School podcast to discuss her debut feature, Slanted, and the long road from film school to theatrical release. In conversation with GG Hawkins, Wang reflects on leaving Australia for AFI, building a creative community in Los Angeles, learning to write as a practical path to survival in the industry, and what happened after Slanted premiered at SXSW 2025, won the Grand Jury Prize, and eventually landed distribution ahead of its 2026 theatrical release. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Amy Wang discuss... How Fight Club inspired Wang to pursue filmmaking as a teenager in Sydney Why she left Australia for AFI and what it was like arriving in Los Angeles as an international student The real value of film school, especially for community-building and dedicated creative time Why learning to write became the key to sustaining a filmmaking career after graduation How a Black List script helped open doors in Hollywood The emotional and personal origins of Slanted Why body horror and comedy became the right form for exploring race, identity, and belonging How Slanted went from a logline to a financed feature What production and post looked like on a tight timeline before SXSW What it felt like to premiere at SXSW, hear audience reactions, and unexpectedly win the Grand Jury Prize The reality of selling an indie film in today’s market, even after major festival recognition What Wang learned from working with Bleecker Street on the theatrical release Details about her next feature, Crescendo, set in the world of competitive piano Memorable Quotes: “If you don't come from money, if you don't have a famous uncle and you don't want to work at Starbucks for the next three to four years after you graduate, you need to learn how to write.” (12:48) “You can't let the highs be too high and you can't let the lows be too low.” (16:31) “It doesn't matter what I do, it doesn't matter who I am, how I speak, my personality is like, what my thoughts or how intelligent I am, people will always see my face first.” (19:08) “As long as you keep going, as long as you keep learning and changing and growing, I think you don't need to be the best throughout your life to be able to have a career in this industry.” (40:56) Guests: Amy Wang Resources: Slanted official film page Applying for Your O-1 Visa to Work in Film and TV Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Mar 6, 2026 • 38min

The Best Distillation of Filmmaking: An A24 Edit Case Study

In this episode, GG Hawkins speaks with editor Harrison Atkins about shaping A24’s How to Make a Killing with director John Patton Ford. Atkins breaks down his path into editing, his holistic “total filmmaker” approach to storytelling, and the editorial challenges of balancing dark comedy, violence, voiceover, and audience empathy around a morally compromised protagonist. The conversation also explores the realities of studio post-production, from long edit timelines and test screenings to cutting in Adobe Premiere’s Productions workflow while collaborating with a London-based post team more accustomed to Avid. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Harrison Atkins discuss... How Harrison Atkins found his way into editing through directing and making his own films Why he thinks of editing as a holistic, dramaturgical part of filmmaking rather than a purely technical role Reuniting with director John Patton Ford after Emily the Criminal What drew him to the multi-tonal mix of crime, satire, dark comedy, and violence in How to Make a Killing How voiceover created both opportunity and endless editorial possibilities in the cut The difference between an indie sprint like Emily the Criminal and the extended timeline of a studio feature How test screenings and audience response helped refine comedy, pacing, and emotional momentum Why the first reel was crucial to getting audiences aligned with a charismatic but morally gray lead The editorial challenge of shaping an underdog around Glenn Powell’s natural confidence and charm How Premiere’s Productions workflow supported a collaborative feature edit with multiple people working simultaneously What it was like cutting the film in London with assistant editors adapting from an Avid-heavy post environment How temporary VFX comps in After Effects and Photoshop helped solve story and joke-building problems inside the edit Harrison’s philosophy of leadership, collaboration, intuition, and staying present as both an editor and director His advice to emerging filmmakers: fail boldly, work small if necessary, and keep making things instead of waiting for permission Memorable Quotes: “I never really considered myself an editor. I still kind of weirdly don't.” (01:19) “The calendar is really a myth.” (06:59) “The difference between a joke that lands and one that doesn't is often microscopic.” (13:30) “Perfection is the enemy of good.” (33:50) Guests: Harrison Atkins Resources: How to Make a Killing Emily the Criminal Total Filmmaker by Jerry Lewis Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Feb 26, 2026 • 57min

What These DPs Used Instead of Stills to Land Their Sundance Films

Recorded live at the 2026 Sundance Film Festival in Park City, this annual Director of Photography Roundtable features No Film School’s GG Hawkins in conversation with cinematographers Lidia Nikonova, Sam Levy, and Maria Herrera. The group discusses their unconventional paths into cinematography—from orchestras and photojournalism to weddings and radio DJing—how they landed their Sundance projects, and why connection, rhythm, and trust matter more than flashy lookbooks. They also break down the tools they used to communicate vision, navigate long dialogue scenes, and adapt to technical and emotional challenges on set. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guests discuss… Shooting at the 2026 Sundance Film Festival and hosting at the BraveMaker house Maria Herrera’s transition from music to cinematography and operating handheld for emotionally intense performances Sam Levy’s mentorship under Harris Savides and how that shaped his approach to narrative filmmaking Lidia Nikonova’s journey from photojournalism and the Canon EOS 5D Mark II to AFI and shooting narrative features How each DP landed their Sundance projects through relationships, cold emails, and creative chemistry When to bring visual references to a director meeting—and when to just listen Using tools like Figma to build collaborative lookbooks and visual worlds Why dialogue rhythm and musicality influence cinematography choices Shooting on 35mm with an Arricam ST versus digital on the ARRI Alexa 35 Working with vintage Super Baltar lenses (famously used on The Godfather) for a modern crime thriller Referencing L'Argent by Robert Bresson for insert shots and cinematic economy How to approach 10+ page dialogue scenes without losing visual intention The value of shooting weddings and low-budget projects to build craft and confidence Advice for emerging cinematographers: show up early, trust your vision, and get your reps in Memorable Quotes: “This child will never play a musical instrument ever in her life.” “If you have good dialogues, it's like, okay, here's something.” “Just connect with her.” “Show up at least one hour early… and do not use your phone on set.” Guests: Lidia Nikonova Sam Levy Maria Herrera Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Feb 20, 2026 • 41min

‘Send Help’ Producer Zainab Azizi’s Studio Filmmaking Playbook

Producer Zainab Azizi joins GG Hawkins to break down her journey from agency mailroom to President of Raimi Productions and producing studio features like Send Help. Azizi shares how she develops original ideas, packages talent, protects projects through shifting studio mandates, and leads with a collaborative producing style. She also discusses mentoring female producers, balancing creative and financial realities in modern filmmaking, and why theatrical success for original films still matters. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Zainab Azizi discuss... How Send Help evolved from a logline in 2019 to a theatrical release Moving the project from Columbia Pictures to 20th and navigating studio mandate shifts Why Sam Raimi was essential to directing the film—and how storyboards helped secure studio confidence Packaging as a producer: attaching directors and actors through agency relationships Casting Rachel McAdams and Dylan O’Brien and building chemistry into the film’s core dynamic The tension between “social media value” and creative talent in casting decisions What Azizi learned in the WME mailroom and how agencies really function behind the scenes Different types of producers (creative, line, financing, studio producers) and protecting the “PGA” credit Her collaborative leadership style and the “three solutions for every problem” rule Mentorship, promoting female producers, and fostering more women-led sets Why theatrical releases for original films still matter in 2026 Developing a Seshu Hayakawa biopic and why his story feels urgent today The importance of sacrifice, networking, and embracing rejection early in your career Memorable Quotes: “My job is to find three solutions for every problem.” “Rejection is just redirection. We celebrate rejections.” “If it scares you, it means you’re headed the right direction.” “You have to put yourself out there.” Guests: Zainab Azizi – President of Raimi Productions and producer of Send Help Resources: LaBelle Foundation (for adopting Cactus the foster puppy) Producers Guild of America (PGA) Producers United Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Feb 19, 2026 • 59min

The Quiet Throughline in This Year’s Sundance Shorts

Recorded live from the Sundance Film Festival, GG Hawkins hosts a roundtable conversation with four short film directors premiering work at the festival: Kelly McCormack (How Brief), Anna Baumgarten (Balloon Animals), Ana Alpízar (Norheimsund), and Anooya Swamy (Pankaja). The filmmakers discuss the origins of their films, navigating production across Cuba, India, Canada, and the U.S., working within (and outside of) film school structures, and the deeply personal themes of grief, mother-daughter relationships, disappearance, and survival that unexpectedly connect their work. In this episode, No Film School’s GG Hawkins and guests discuss… Shooting narrative shorts on location in Havana, Bangalore, Vancouver, and Los Angeles Returning to Cuba to film Norheimsund after seeking asylum in the United States How Pankaja draws from growing up in the slums of Bangalore and confronting personal memory Making a $6,500 microbudget short inside a real grocery store overnight Building a short film over eight years and resisting the “proof of concept” mindset Working within NYU’s film school structure versus creating outside institutional systems Casting mother-daughter dynamics rooted in real-life relationships Designing color theory, texture, cement, and dirt as emotional language Shooting inside real police stations and navigating bureaucracy while telling stories about it Grief as a “big soup of emotions” and balancing melancholy with comedy Collaborating with ride-or-die creative partners Advice for emerging filmmakers about not compromising and trusting instinct Memorable Quotes: “Dreaming doesn’t cost a thing.” “Choosing oblivion.” “We often live really simple lives in complicated worlds.” “You are allowed not to compromise.” Guests: Kelly McCormack – Director, How Brief Anna Baumgarten – Writer/Director, Balloon Animals Ana Alpízar – Director, Norheimsund Anooya Swamy – Writer/Director, Pankaja Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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