

Managing Violence Podcast with Joe Saunders
Joe Saunders, CPP
Since 2018, the Managing Violence Podcast has been the go-to location for unfiltered, intelligent conversations with the world’s leading experts in violence prevention, threat assessment, self-protection and protective security.
Hosted by Joe Saunders, a seasoned violence prevention professional and protective security expert, this podcast dives deep into real-world insights from criminology, psychology, BTAM, law enforcement, combative arts and security professionals.
Managing Violence is proudly #ForTheProtectors
Hosted by Joe Saunders, a seasoned violence prevention professional and protective security expert, this podcast dives deep into real-world insights from criminology, psychology, BTAM, law enforcement, combative arts and security professionals.
Managing Violence is proudly #ForTheProtectors
Episodes
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May 23, 2025 • 35min
MVP117: Randy King on his upcoming tour of Australia
In this episode I'm joined by good friend and Candian self-defence expert extraordinaire, Randy King, to discuss his upcoming book and Australian tour.

May 23, 2025 • 47min
MVP116. Ultimate Self Defence with Jeff Phillips
In this episode I'm joined by the mastermind of the Ultimate Self-Defense Championship on YouTube, and the founder of Western Combatives, Mr Jeff Phillips.

16 snips
Jan 20, 2025 • 59min
MVP115: Staying Safe in Politically Tumultuous Times with James Hamilton
James Hamilton, former FBI and executive protection pro and founder of Hamilton Security Group, explains practical safety for everyday people. He covers realistic threat awareness, prepping without paranoia, spotting pre-attack behavior, transit and vehicle risks, family training tactics, and simple mitigations to reduce danger during political unrest.

Dec 29, 2024 • 1h 11min
MVP114: Catch Wrestling Past and Future with Jake Shannon
In this episode we go back to our routes and talk about martial arts and combat sports training. I get to explore one of my favourite grappling arts, Catch-as-Catch-Can wrestling with one of the foremost historians and coaches on the subject, Mr Jake Shannon.
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Dec 29, 2024 • 1h 11min
MVP113: Lone Actor Violence with Dr Nathan Brooks
Dr Nathan Brooks, forensic psychologist and senior lecturer who advises police and government on threat and risk, talks about lone-actor grievance-fuelled violence. He explains pathways to violence, differences between cause-based and person-focused attacks, the role of ideology and online recruitment, warning behaviours, suicidality as a risk factor, and prevention through care-first threat management.

10 snips
Sep 23, 2024 • 1h 8min
MVP112: "The Gift of Violence" with Matt Thornton
Matt Thornton, researcher, coach and martial arts instructor known for evidence-based self-protection, discusses his book The Gift of Violence. He digs into surprising crime data patterns and misconceptions about police shootings. He explains spotting predatory behavior, honoring others' threat perceptions, and how combat sports and mentorship build real-world skills and resilience.

Aug 29, 2024 • 1h 12min
MVP111: What You Need to Know Before Teaching Women's Self-Defence with Mary Stevens
So you want to help women feel safer by teaching them some sweet self-defence moves or personal safety strategies? Chances are, if you're not part of the group you're looking to train, you might have overlooked a few things. In this cracking interview, I sit down with Mary Stevens of 500 Rising and FairFight to discuss what ALL instructors MUST know before teaching women's self-defence.
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Aug 18, 2024 • 58min
MVP110: Trump Assassination Attempt with Jack Leskovar - Secret Service Veteran
We're back! In Episode 110 of the Managing Violence Podcast, I interview Jack Leskovar, a 30+ year veteran of the United States Secret Service about the attempted assassination on former President Donald Trump. Jack shares his informed insights into what went wrong and what lessons the USSS must take to prevent it from happening again.
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Apr 24, 2023 • 54min
MVP109: ”High Conflict” with Amanda Ripley
Amanda Ripley, investigative journalist and bestselling author, explores why polarized battles spiral out of control. She explains the four tripwires that escalate conflict and how online platforms and state actors fuel division. Conversations cover humiliation’s power, why people pick proxy fights, and reforms and habits that can make systems and daily life more conflict-resilient.

Apr 10, 2023 • 48min
MVP108: Melissa Muir: Violence Prevention from a HR Professional’s Point of View
Melissa Muir, an experienced HR executive focused on workplace violence prevention and the security–HR interface. She talks about bridging HR and security cultures. She highlights behavioral red flags, smarter hiring and vetting, and why integrity should beat quick fixes. She outlines safer, dignified separations and how policies and culture signal risk.


