Rethinking God with Tacos PODCAST

In this rich and deeply moving conversation, Jason connects with Isi De Gersigny to explore the expansive, immersive, and measureless love of God. Together, they reflect on worship, trauma, healing, union, and the freedom that comes when we stop living for God’s approval and begin living from the realitythat we are already beloved. This episode is a beautiful invitation beyond fear, separation thinking, and performance-based faith into the wide-open life revealed in Jesus. If you’ve ever wrestled with God’s goodness, deconstruction, or what it really means to live loved, this conversation will stay with you.To learn more about Isi:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/isidegersigny/Music: https://ditto.fm/life-love-blood?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bioFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/isidegersigny/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jubileechurchsydneyJubilee Church: https://jubilee.org.au/JOIN our RGWT Subscriber-Based Community:https://promo.fourriversmedia.com/rethinking-god-with-tacos/JOIN A Family Story's Mailing Listhttps://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wtoJOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacosFollow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at:https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at:https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/Follow Jason on Instagram at:https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!!https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

Tommy Miller, Bobby Shane Brooks, and Jason have a powerful conversation about union, identity, and the goodness of God, exploring how much of modern Christianity has framed the gospel through separation, behavior, and fear rather than inclusion, belovedness, and Christ-centered being. Tommy unpacks the difference between “tragic ontology” and “salvific ontology,” while Bobby shares his deeply personal story of losing his daughter and how the revelation of God’s unwavering love carried him through grief without turning him against the Father. Together, they reclaim salvation, healing, holiness, and identity through the lens of union, arguing that the delusion of separation is over and that the gospel is ultimately the awakening to who we have always been in Christ.Homecoming Conference Link: https://legacy-church-ohio.churchcenter.com/registrations/events/3410549For more content like this, go to:https://afamilystory.org/JOIN our RGWT Subscriber-Based Community:https://promo.fourriversmedia.com/rethinking-god-with-tacos/JOIN A Family Story's Mailing Listhttps://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wtoJOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacosFollow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at:https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at:https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/Follow Jason on Instagram at:https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!!https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

Cary Brown PhD, a clinical psychologist and marriage & family therapist and author of A Crisis of Maps, discusses how shifts in images of God reshape parenting, trauma healing, and faith. He explores COVID’s role in accelerating theological rethinking. Topics include secure attachment, open systems, trusting love over fear, somatic awareness, and practical tools for reorienting faith and family life.

In this conversation, Roy Rhoades shares his transformative journey from a legalistic upbringing to a deep understanding of God's love. He emphasizes the importance of community, connection, and the freedom that comes from living loved. The discussion highlights the shift from performance-based ministry to a love-centered approach, showcasing the power of love in action, especially in his experiences in India. Roy's insights on humility, childlikeness, and the significance of hearing God's voice resonate throughout the conversation, culminating in a powerful message about the beauty of union with God.For more content like this, go to:https://afamilystory.org/JOIN our RGWT Subscriber-Based Community:https://promo.fourriversmedia.com/rethinking-god-with-tacos/JOIN A Family Story's Mailing Listhttps://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wtoJOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacosFollow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at:https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at:https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/Follow Jason on Instagram at:https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!!https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

Jason reconnects with his friend (and occasional co-host) Paul Golf for a laughter-and-theology conversation that starts with Dutch tacos and ends with a gospel that actually works outside a “climate-controlled” church environment. Paul shares the story behind Damascus: Encounter the Unexpected Christ—how transformative encounters with Jesus dismantled fear-based paradigms (wrath, separation, performative spirituality) and forced him to find new language for what he’d experienced. Together, they explore why “a prophet’s job is to remove fear,” why revelation comes before instruction, and how salvation looks less like “getting in” and more like waking up inside the Father’s house—from dreamland/nightmareland into the reality of union and perfect love that casts out fear—plus a quick preview of the Bristol (May 29–30, 2026) gathering.For more info on Paul Golf:https://championsofhope.co.uk/To purchase Paul's new book: https://Damascusbook.com/For more info on the From Presence to Encounter Weekend, Friday 29th & Saturday 30th May in Bristol:https://championsofhope.co.uk/2026/02/02/from-presence-to-encounter/ For more content like this, go to:https://afamilystory.org/Please rate, review, share, and SUBSCRIBE!Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde AssemblyJOIN our RGWT Subscriber-Based Community:https://afamilystory.audiencetap.com/qc/wU0gQoHxDxJoin A Family Story's Mailing Listhttps://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wtoJoin the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacosFollow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at:https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at:https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/Follow Jason on Instagram at:https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis Send a donation!!https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

In this conversation, Mark Casto shares his transformative journey from a life rooted in legalism and performance-based ministry to one centered on beloved identity and God's unconditional love. He reflects on the challenges he faced, including panic attacks and the pressures of ministry success, and how these experiences led him to a deeper understanding of grace and the importance of family. Mark discusses the importance of community in spiritual growth and the challenges he faced while planting a church. Ultimately, he emphasizes the need to redefine success in ministry and the power of living in beloved identity.Mark and Jason also explore themes of identity, self-discovery, and the journey of pastors in the context of a shifting church landscape. They discuss the importance of rediscovering one's true self, the challenges faced by shepherds, and the need for a reformation within the church. The dialogue emphasizes the significance of questioning authority, embracing beloved identity, and the genius of redemption in the Christian journey. Ultimately, they highlight the importance of community, connection, and the freedom to be oneself in the pursuit of faith and purpose.For more information on Mark:https://markcasto.co/For more content like this, go to:https://afamilystory.org/Please rate, review, share, and SUBSCRIBE!Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde AssemblyJOIN our RGWT Subscriber-Based Community:https://afamilystory.audiencetap.com/qc/wU0gQoHxDxJoin A Family Story's Mailing Listhttps://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wtoJoin the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacosFollow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at:https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at:https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/Follow Jason on Instagram at:https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis Send a donation!!https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

In this engaging conversation, Lisa Wentworth Couture and Jason explore the profound themes of love, identity, and healing through the lens of union. Lisa shares her personal journey of discovering God's love and the concept of 'Beloved Union,' emphasizing that salvation is not a transaction but a relational awakening to our true identity in Christ. They discuss the impact of shame, the importance of community support, and the inherent innocence within each person. The conversation culminates in a reflection on the simplicity of the gospel and the transformative power of truth and reconciliation.For more content like this, go to:https://afamilystory.org/Please rate, review, share, and SUBSCRIBE!Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde AssemblyJOIN our RGWT Subscriber-Based Community:https://afamilystory.audiencetap.com/qc/wU0gQoHxDxJoin A Family Story's Mailing Listhttps://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wtoJoin the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacosFollow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at:https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at:https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/Follow Jason on Instagram at:https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis Send a donation!!https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8

Trevor Meier, pastor and speaker behind Naturally Supernatural, shares his journey from revival-driven performance to living in sonship and union with God. They explore moving past fear-based theology, rediscovering an inclusive gospel, the role of community, and the joy of authentic ministry. Lighthearted taco talk ties conversations about connection and belonging.

Jeromy Johnson, podcaster who pushes conversations about grace and restoration, and David Artman, theologian and author of Grace Saves All, discuss Christian universalism. They probe restorative love, reject punishment-based gospel urgency, and unpack union, aeonian correction, time and eternity, consent, and transformative real-life stories about meeting God at rock bottom.

In this conversation, Nathan Apffel shares his journey with Brooke Waters and Jason from being a filmmaker in the action sports industry to being a creator of a docuseries that explores the complexities of faith and the church. He discusses his personal experiences that shaped his understanding of God, the role of fatherhood in his spiritual awakening, and the importance of transparency and accountability within the church.Nathan emphasizes the need for the church to evolve and address its issues while highlighting the beauty of community and personal ministry. The conversation also sets the stage for the second season of 'The Religion Business,' which aims to confront deeper issues within the church and offer tangible solutions.Then the conversation turns to the role of the church in addressing social issues such as foster care, homelessness, and child sexual abuse. Nathan emphasizes the importance of community empowerment, the need for reform within church structures, and the potential for innovative models of gathering that foster connection and support.To learn more about Nathan or The Religion Business:https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/aboutFor more content like this, go to:https://afamilystory.org/Please rate, review, share, and SUBSCRIBE!Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde AssemblyJOIN our RGWT Subscriber-Based Community:https://afamilystory.audiencetap.com/qc/wU0gQoHxDxJOIN A Family Story's Mailing Listhttps://dashing-field-76805.myflodesk.com/pie4be6wtoJOIN the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacosFOLLOW Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at:https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/FOLLOW Jason's personal Facebook page at:https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/FOLLOW Jason on Instagram at:https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ FOLLOW Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis SEND A DONATION!!https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8