Rethinking God with Tacos PODCAST Wm. Paul Young, Martijn van Tilborgh & Matt Seifert / The Sacred Undoing
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Mar 31, 2026 
Wm. Paul Young, author known for The Shack, offers storytelling and theological teaching. Martijn van Tilborgh, theologian and relational thinker, moderates tough questions. Matt Seifert, pastor and church leader, shares pastoral reflections. They discuss wrath, hell, suffering, sacrifice, church safety, restorative love, and what salvation rescues us from in a candid, relational conversation.
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Hell As The Fire Of God's Affection
- Hell is reframed as the purifying, consuming fire of God's love that destroys what is not of love's kind without violating human choice.
- Paul Young compares this to a parent's fiery fury that removes anything harming a child, freeing them to be fully alive.
Matt Seifert's Shift From Faith To Grace
- Matt Seifert recounts his theological journey from faith-healing/Rhema roots to discovering a grace-centered church in Ohio then relocating in 2016 to pursue living grace.
- He describes teaching youth, noticing Romans' paradox about grace and sin, and shifting from 'faith' to 'grace' theology.
Why Jesus Had To Die From A Restorative Lens
- Jesus' death is explained as God entering death to destroy it from within, taking on human separation to redeem humanity.
- Paul Young links Psalm 22's dereliction cry to Jesus experiencing human estrangement so death could be defeated.
