

TWO AM I
Jack Riewoldt & Shane McCurry
If you had to grab two things from a burning building, what would you choose?
Co-hosted by Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry, TWO AM I is redefining modern leadership, one convo at a time. We invite extraordinary individuals to tell their story through two objects. Big or small, trinket or treasure. Two things that explain who they are, and what matters to them.
Think of us like a supermarket for knowledge: tune in, grab what you need, then apply it in your everyday life. From sports champs to journalists. Builders to coaches. CEOs to musos. These are the fresh takes on leadership that don’t usually make the headlines.
Listen Curiously.
Co-hosted by Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry, TWO AM I is redefining modern leadership, one convo at a time. We invite extraordinary individuals to tell their story through two objects. Big or small, trinket or treasure. Two things that explain who they are, and what matters to them.
Think of us like a supermarket for knowledge: tune in, grab what you need, then apply it in your everyday life. From sports champs to journalists. Builders to coaches. CEOs to musos. These are the fresh takes on leadership that don’t usually make the headlines.
Listen Curiously.
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Apr 30, 2024 • 41min
Konrad Marshall: A master of observing the beauty and strangeness in everyday life
Journalist Konrad Marshall, known for his unique sensitivity in storytelling, shares his journey from writing to long-distance running. He discusses childhood influences, writing about sports, an unforgettable drum circle experience, the daily run commitment, and insights into the writing process.

Dec 5, 2023 • 40min
Jack & Shane: How did we get here? Let's just say it was 'connection' at first sight
They first met at a café in Richmond in Melbourne, and Jack and Shane admit, it was connection at first sight. The pair realised straight away that they shared a passion for leadership, growth and a fascination for people and their stories. What began as a professional relationship at the Richmond Football Club, turned into a friendship and partnership co-hosting TWO AM I. And in this final episode of Season 1, Jack and Shane explore the two (or five) personal items that mean the world to them, they reflect on their guests over the past eight episodes and what they learned from each and reveal what Climbing the Mountain means to them. TWO AM I Listen Curiously CREDITS Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry To learn more about Jack and Shane: Jack on Instagram Shane on Instagram Jack on LinkedIn Shane on LinkedIn Jack and Authentic Leaders Group Shane McCurry Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I Instagram TWO AM I Tik TokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 28, 2023 • 40min
Rosie Popa: How being unorthodox in your approach can deliver unimagined riches
Episode 8: Rosie Popa It was not a given that Rosie Popa would follow in her parents’ footsteps as an Olympic rower, but as the universe would have it, she loved the sport so much her destiny would be so. And it was this family connection and support that helped her all the way to the top of her game, even when the chips were down, and her Olympic dream looked like it was slipping from view. Through the challenges Rosie has faced over the years, her self-belief, ability to roll with the punches, grit and determination, and resourcefulness in training in the most unorthodox of conditions, paved the way for her to bring home not only a gold medal, but a whole new love and understanding for who she is. TWO AM I Listen Curiously CREDITS Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry Thanks to our guest Rosie Popa To learn more about Rosie: Rosie on Instagram Rosie on LinkedIn Rosie on Wikipedia Links from this episode: Rosie Popa Tokyo Olympics Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I Instagram TWO AM I Tik TokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 21, 2023 • 40min
Brad McEwan: Why being kind to your barista might just change their life
Connection, belonging and kindness could be Brad McEwan’s middle names. It is those qualities that guided this glass half full all-round good guy through some of the most devastating moments in his life, helped him sustain a stellar TV career, and brought him back to his hometown in northern Victoria when disaster struck. He openly admits ‘he loves people’ and whether you are his best mate, his Mum or a shop assistant he has never met, he has time for chat. His ability to connect with anyone is his superpower and the thing that underpinned a huge change in life direction some years ago which ultimately has brought him more happiness than he could ever have dreamt of. TWO AM I Listen Curiously REMINDER: If this episode has raised any issues for you, in Australia you can contact Lifeline by phone on 13 11 14 (24/7); Lifeline via text on 0477 13 11 14 (24/7); Suicide Callback Service 1300 659 467. CREDITS Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry Thanks to our guest Brad McEwan To learn more about Brad: Brad on Instagram Brad on LinkedIn Brad McEwan Wikipedia Brad Beyond Blue ‘Not Alone’ Podcast Links from this episode: Beyond Blue Youniversal Rochester Community House Melanoma Institute Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I Instagram TWO AM I Tik TokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 14, 2023 • 39min
Dave Astbury: From elite athlete to the next chapter: sitting with discomfort and being mindful
The leap from elite athlete to the next chapter in life isn’t always straightforward, and for three-time AFL premiership Richmond player David (Dave) Astbury it came with a lot of ‘discomfort.’ But being the curious type, Dave set out to find answers to the many questions he was faced with – a rewarding journey that’s taken him to a place of self-discovery and mindfulness, and to where he finds himself now. Backed by his resilience, ability to connect with others, and positive outlook Dave is now a mindset coach with High Performance Mindfulness – working with the likes of the Hockeyroos – while also studying Psychological Science. So how is this self-confessed ‘girl-guy’ not only shaping his future, but of those around him? TWO AM I Listen Curiously CREDITS Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry Thanks to our guest David Astbury To learn more about David: David on Instagram David on LinkedIn David on Wikipedia Links from this episode: High Performance Mindfulness Richmond Football Club Hockeyroos Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I Instagram TWO AM I Tik TokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 7, 2023 • 39min
Nyadol Nyuon: The refugee human rights lawyer and her friend 'imposter syndrome'
Growing up in refugee camps in Ethiopia and Kenya set Nyadol Nyuon on a path that would shape her journey so far. A lawyer, human rights and multiculturalism advocate, writer and accomplished public speaker, Nyadol has lived a thousand lives in one. So how does she deal with her friend imposter syndrome, what advice does she have when it comes to combating racism and how does she tune out of a busy world? Nyadol’s perspective on everything from sport to politics to learning, are unlike any other, while her ability to empathise with, and empower others, is a masterstroke in life lessons. TWO AM I Listen Curiously *NOTE: This episode was recorded before Bigoa ‘Biggie’ Nyuon was traded to North Melbourne FC* CREDITS Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry Thanks to our guest Nyadol Nyuon To learn more about Nyadol: Nyadol on Instagram Nyadol on LinkedIn Nyadol on Wikipedia The University of Melbourne: Nyadol Nyuon Links from this episode: Sir Zelman Cowan Centre National Press Club address: Nyadol Nyuon Author James Baldwin Australian of the Year Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I Instagram TWO AM I Tik TokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 31, 2023 • 39min
Harry Moffitt: The crucial moment that changed the path for a humble warrior
Lying in hospital after a shrapnel wound and subsequent infection, was SAS veteran Harry Moffitt’s ‘crucible moment.’ Realising he needed a Plan B for his future he set about to change course. After almost 30 years in the Australian Defence Force, 11 overseas deployments which always included his favourite game, cricket, Harry reinvented. Now a registered psychologist, human performance consultant, he works with sports teams, the military and industry to develop and inspire their people to thrive. He’s also an author and the frontman for a rock band, and while Harry has many strings to his bow, there is one role he plays which is more important to him than any other. TWO AM I Listen Curiously CREDITS Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry Thanks to our guest Harry Moffitt To learn more about Harry: Harry on Instagram Harry on LinkedIn Harry Moffitt website National Backyard Cricket Stotan Group Links from this episode: Jegertroppen – Norwegian female special operations unit SAS Wanderers Education Program Eleven Bats book Infantry Combat Badge The Externals Band Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I Instagram TWO AM I Tik TokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 24, 2023 • 39min
Sarah Jones: Why dreaming big might just get you where you want to go
Sarah Jones was a country kid who like many was sports mad. But it was her determination that helped her forge a career as a sports broadcaster at a time when there were few women in the game. Sarah is now one of Australia’s most polished sporting hosts and appears on FOX Footy, cricket and sports all year round. And while Sarah’s story isn’t without tragedy, having lost someone very important to her at a young age, she says it doesn’t define her. Her optimism and passion for life as well as her laugh, are infectious, and it’s something she hopes to pass onto other young women, and men looking to embrace their big dream. TWO AM I Listen Curiously CREDITS Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry Thanks to our guest Sarah Jones To learn more about Sarah: Sarah on Instagram Fox Footy on LinkedIn Links from this episode: Sarah Jones Fox Footy Sarah Jones Book Diary Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I Instagram TWO AM I Tik TokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 17, 2023 • 38min
Ryder Jack: Having honest conversations about masculinity and the expectations on men
Ryder Jack is all about having honest conversations, especially when it comes to emotional wellbeing and the expectations on men. He runs workshops in communities, schools, sporting clubs and workplaces across Australia to help young men explore what masculinity means. But many of his own lessons he learnt from a young age, growing up with a sibling who means the world to him, a family where he was always supported – and now he’s giving back to his own family and thousands of others through his work with Tomorrow Man. TWO AM I Listen Curiously REMINDER: If this episode has raised any issues for you, in Australia you can contact Lifeline by phone on 13 11 14 (24/7); Lifeline via text on 0477 13 11 14 (24/7); Suicide Callback Service 1300 659 467. CREDITS Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry Thanks to our guest Ryder Jack To learn more about Ryder: Ryder on Instagram Ryder on X Ryder on LinkedIn Links from this episode: Tomorrow Man Tomorrow Man on Instagram Tomorrow Man on Facebook Tomorrow Man on Twitter Tomorrow Man on LinkedIn Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I Instagram TWO AM I Tik TokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oct 2, 2023 • 39min
Paul Ah Chee: Painful breakups, rekindling a love of music and climbing the mountain
From a painful break up, to a renewed love affair with music – singer/songwriter Paul Ah Chee opens up about what his 20-year hiatus from playing and touring taught him, the happiness his return to the stage has brought him as a solo artist and the place he finds his inspiration. Paul also reveals his two special items and how they reflect who he is today, along with the importance of family, culture and the referendum on whether Australia should change the Constitution to establish the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice ‘The Voice’. REMINDER: If this episode has raised any issues for you, in Australia you can contact Lifeline by phone on 13 11 14 (24/7); Lifeline via text on 0477 13 11 14 (24/7); Suicide Callback Service 1300 659 467. CREDITS Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry Thanks to our guest Paul Ah Chee To learn more about Paul: Paul Ah Chee website Paul on Instagram Paul on LinkedIn Links from this episode: Nowhere To Hide latest EP Climbing The Mountain The Voice referendum information The Voice YES Campaign Beyond Blue Find TWO AM I on Instagram here: TWO AM I Instagram See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


