DePINed podcast

Explore how Carrier One is redefining global connectivity through DePIN and bringing telecom into Web3.In this episode, Tom Trowbridge interviews Samer Bishay (CEO & co-founder of Karrier One) — a decentralized telecom network enabling global roaming, local coverage, and Web3-native identity for millions of mobile users.Carrier One merges 25+ years of telco expertise with DePIN economics to solve one of the world’s biggest challenges:💡 1/3 of humanity still has no reliable internet access, and over 2 billion people remain unbankedThis conversation dives deep into: - Why telecom is one of the most powerful real-world use cases for DePIN- The difference between Web3-first and Telco-first DePIN projects- How Carrier One enables global roaming using local hardware (WiFi, CBRS, macro nodes)- The economics behind a B2B DePIN model (AT&T partnership, real revenue)- Trustless settlement: why blockchain solves telecom’s biggest pain point- Tokenized connectivity: consumption, burn mechanics, incentives- Hardware deployment: how communities can earn from coverage- The long-term mission: connect the unconnected + bank the unbanked- What makes adoption so hard — and how Carrier Number solves onboarding- The 1M → 10M Web3-enabled phone vision- Global expansion beyond North America🎙️ If you want to understand the future of decentralized telecom, roaming without borders, and why DePIN is the biggest opportunity Telco has seen in decades — this episode is essential.

Explore how Grass became one of the most important data engines powering today’s AI models!In this episode, Tom Trowbridge (co-founder & CEO of Fluence) interviews Andrej Radonjic, Founder & CEO of Winged Labs — the team behind the Grass Network, a DePIN system with 8M+ residential devices contributing bandwidth and enabling petabytes of real-world web data for the world’s leading AI labs.This conversation dives deep into:- How Grass built the largest AI-focused DePIN network in the world- Why AI companies need massive, multimodal datasets (especially video)- How Grass handles hundreds of petabytes of data and pushes 4 PB/day at peak- The hidden world of residential proxy networks — and why Grass chose the ethical path- Why blockchain and tokenized network ownership are essential for scaling- Forced verticalization: building their own storage, servers, GPUs, and infra- The future of AI: Live Context Retrieval and real-time access to the entire public web- Token holders, incentives, and the economics behind a global data network🎙️ Grass is enabling AI models to see the real world in real time. If you want to understand the data layer behind the next generation of AI, this episode is essential.

In this episode of the DePINed Podcast, Tom Trowbridge sits down with Luis Oscar Ramirez, Founder of Mawari, the Immersive Compute Network powering the future of XR and AI.Mawari started as a Web2 company trying to solve the hard problem of streaming 3D content for AR/VR — and found DePIN as the only viable way to scale.Today, they’re running over 5,000 GPUs across APAC, powering real-time edge rendering, AI inference, and even virtual YouTubers — with a modular 4-node architecture and a mission to make immersive content truly global.Topics covered:– Why AR/VR needs real-time compute at the edge– How Mawari evolved from XR studio to DePIN infra– The use case explosion: from AI agents to K-pop avatars– DePIN in Asia: Japan, Korea, and the coming wave– Their upcoming Guardian Node launch & token modelA rare inside look at an Asia-first DePIN project solving real infrastructure challenges today.🎙️ Don’t miss this deep dive into one of the most ambitious infrastructure projects in the DePIN ecosystem

Mike Zajko, co-founder of Lattice Capital and a former CoinList operator, shares insights from his extensive experience in early-stage crypto and DePIN investments. He discusses the evolution of DePIN, emphasizing the need for real-world traction and revenue. Mike outlines key investment criteria like market size and expert teams, while reflecting on common founder missteps. The conversation touches on tokenomics, the impact of AI on market opportunities, and the importance of long-term alignment between token holders and project success.

Mateusz Poreda, co-founder of Rumi, discusses transforming passive TV into interactive experiences. He explains how decentralized nodes enable real-time content indexing and contextual ads. The conversation explores the potential of AI remotes for personalized media engagement and the future of contextual advertising. Mateusz also highlights the significance of incentives and token airdrops for user participation and Rumi's vision to create a gamified viewing experience, engaging audiences in ways never seen before.

What if anyone, anywhere could contribute to the next generation of AI and get paid for it?In this episode of the DePINed Podcast, we talk to Max Li, founder and CEO of OORT — a decentralized data collection network with over 350,000 contributors across 100+ countries and 100,000+ active nodes. OORT is building the global infrastructure for verifiable, crowd-sourced AI data — from speech to video to edge cases.We cover:Why synthetic data isn’t enough for next-gen AIHow OORT rewards real-world contributors and node operatorsTokenomics, staking & the upcoming “TikTok for AI data”Why Africa and LATAM are the next big data economiesLessons from scaling one of the largest AI data DePINsDon’t miss this deep dive into one of the most ambitious infrastructure projects in the DePIN ecosystem 🎙️

💡 Can blockchain help power the future? In this episode of DePINed Podcast, we sit down with Jemma Green, Executive Chairman and co-founder of PowerLedger to explore how decentralized infrastructure is reshaping the $2 trillion global energy industry.Jemma shares Powerledger’s journey — from launching Australia’s first ICO to building a cross-chain energy ecosystem on Solana and Ethereum. With 100+ deployments in 15 countries, Powerledger tracks, tokenizes, and automates clean energy transactions — from peer-to-peer solar trading to renewable energy certificates (RECs) and dynamic grid pricing.We cover:- How energy markets are being disrupted by AI, renewables & regulation- Why battery storage is the new local power plant- How Powerledger’s token (POWR) is evolving with new DePIN use cases- Community-owned energy, on-chain SLAs & economic incentives- What “true two-sided markets” for energy could look like- Why DePIN is the next breakout category in crypto🎙️ Don’t miss this deep dive into one of the most ambitious infrastructure projects in the DePIN ecosystem

With over 100 live games and millions of players, Beamable offers a full backend-as-a-service for game developers — now expanding into DePIN to cut infrastructure costs and reduce centralization risks 🎮 In this episode of DePINed, we speak with Jon Radoff, CEO and co-founder of Beamable — a platform that’s reshaping game development through decentralized infrastructure.We cover:- The economics of game backend infrastructure- Why DePIN is a game-changer for indie and AAA studios- How Beamable’s upcoming tokenized network works- Checker nodes, worker nodes & staking- The future of game publishing powered by DePIN- Beamable’s vision for a community-owned cloud for games💡 Whether you’re a developer, builder, or DePIN enthusiast — this episode dives deep into the intersection of gaming and decentralized infrastructure.🎙️ Don’t miss this deep dive into one of the most ambitious infrastructure projects in the DePIN ecosystem

The demand for faster, cheaper content delivery is exploding — can decentralized CDN scale to meet it? 🌐In this episode of the DePINed Podcast, Tom Trowbridge talks to Phil Mataras, founder & CEO of ⁠AR.IO⁠ — the first permanent cloud network built on Arweave.We explore how ⁠AR.IO⁠ is creating seamless, reliable access to permanent data and applications by adding essential services to the Arweave ecosystem: gateways, indexing, decentralized naming and hosting infrastructure.Topics we cover:– Why ⁠AR.IO⁠ built a decentralized layer of access and services on top of Arweave– The architecture behind gateway nodes, from Raspberry Pi to enterprise scale– Tokenomics and staking incentives for running a gateway– Use cases: censorship-resistant journalism, NFTs, social apps, and more– The vision for scaling to hundreds of terabytes and millions of permanent identities🎙️ Don’t miss this deep dive into one of the most ambitious infrastructure projects in the DePIN ecosystem

In this episode of the #DePINed Podcast, we’re joined by Cathy Zhu, COO of ARO Network — a decentralized content delivery network (CDN) designed to transform how bandwidth is shared, monetized and scaled globally.ARO empowers everyday users to contribute unused bandwidth through simple software or low-cost edge devices, while businesses benefit from reduced latency and dramatically lower costs.🎙️ In this episode:– What makes decentralized CDN cheaper and more efficient– How ARO aggregates idle bandwidth via hardware and software– The economics of rewarding contributors with 90% buy-and-burn– Why ARO focuses on real revenue before token launch– How partnerships in Southeast Asia power ARO’s growth– Building a DePIN from Web2 infrastructure with Web3 distributionDon’t miss this deep dive into the DePIN revolution. Subscribe now to explore how decentralized networks are transforming industries worldwide! 🌍