

Evangelicalish
Evangelicalish
Weekly Livestreams on YouTube on Wed nights at 9pm Eastern/6pm Pacific with hosts Ashley Swearengin and @UnconventionalPastorPaul, Paul Swearengin. She served as mayor of a city, Paul was an evangelical pastor. Together, they were deep in the middle of the rise of Christian nationalism.
Come join us as we discussing a spirituality that reaches beyond the walls of a church building and connects deconstructing people of faith to a renewed identity and a beautiful connection to divine love and goodness. We would love you to join us so we can all grow together in community.
Come join us as we discussing a spirituality that reaches beyond the walls of a church building and connects deconstructing people of faith to a renewed identity and a beautiful connection to divine love and goodness. We would love you to join us so we can all grow together in community.
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Jun 2, 2022 • 1h 14min
Life as a Non-Binary Christian
Paul, Jeremy and April are joined by April's spouse Beecher Reuning (they/them) as we discuss what life as a non-binary Christian looks like in the evangelical-ish world. They tell us about their journey from suppressing their gender dysphoria and viewing it as something that needed fixing to now fully embracing & celebrating their God-given non-binary identity.
Listen to Beecher and April's story on their podcast The Non-Binary Marriage.
Follow Beecher on social media @hellobeecher
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy
or email us: evangelicalish@gmail.com
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

May 26, 2022 • 1h 10min
Uvalde, SBC Report, Rage Prayer
April and Jeremy are joined by guest Reverend Elizabeth Riley to talk about the world: the Uvalde Elementary school shooting, the report that was released on the Southern Baptist Convention sexual abuse and cover-ups and the Indiana Pastor pulpit confession to adultery that was actually CSA.
Rev Riley then leads us all in a rage prayer as we sit in the heaviness of the moment. Then we talk about how we move forward and how we make change.
At the end, April reads a real thread by a Twitter account called "Alpha Masculinity" who is against women riding horses and bicycles. And we all read a hate comment of the week.
Follow Reverend Elizabeth on TikTok, IG @therevriley
Follow the Evangelicalish team on TikTok, IG, FB & Twitter:
@evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy
or email us: evangelicalish@gmail.com
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

May 19, 2022 • 1h 8min
Mass Shootings, Greg Locke & Madison Cawthorn
Paul, Jeremy and April discuss the Buffalo shooting, the racism/white supremacy behind it and what to do about America's gun problem.
Greg Locke went viral again for saying you can't be a christian and vote democrat. Should his tax exemption be taken away? Why isn't the government doing anything about extremist pastors?
Finally, Madison Cawthorn lost his re-election bid. We discuss what we think is next for the problematic, failed republican.
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter:
@evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy
or email us: evangelicalish@gmail.com
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

May 12, 2022 • 1h 12min
More Cringey Clips & Roe V Wade
We're back from an extended break with a new season! Paul and April are joined by Reverend Derek Terry to react to some cringey evangelical clips from the past month and discuss relevant news such as Roe v Wade.
Jeremy had a last minute issue but will return on the next episode.
Follow Derek online @RevDerekTerry
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy
or email us: evangelicalish@gmail.com
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Apr 7, 2022 • 1h 20min
Complicated Grief, Hillsong & Corrupt Churches- Season Finale
***This is the last episode of the season. Evangelicalish will be back in May***
In this episode, Paul talks about the complicated grief of losing his father whom he had a difficult relationship with. The team talks about grief and human emotions that the church often tries to shun or dismiss.
Then they talk about the new Hillsong documentary and the uncovering of more and more toxic church environments. What is there to do moving forward?
Then hear them deal with trolls live who show up in the chat towards the end of the show.
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy
or email us: evangelicalish@gmail.com
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Mar 31, 2022 • 1h 11min
CSA & Church Abuse with Mary Katherine Backstrom
Bestselling author, blogger and social media activist Mary Katherine Backstrom joins Evangelicalish this week to talk about being a survivor of CSA (child sexual abuse) and how her church responded when she reported it to them.
We also touch on purity culture and the cover it gives to abusers. Then the show ends with a new game - Two Truths & A Lie - but with comments we've each received on our individual platforms.
Buy MK's book Holy Hot Mess here: https://www.amazon.com/Holy-Hot-Mess-Finding-Wonderful/dp/1546015493
Follow MK on FB: https://www.facebook.com/MKBackstrom
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy
or email us: evangelicalish@gmail.com
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Mar 24, 2022 • 1h 18min
Ukraine, John MacArthur & Church Cover-Ups
In this episode, we talk about the tragedy of the war in Ukraine but acknowledge the problematic way evangelicals & media have treated Ukrainian refugees differently compared to other countries.
Recently, investigative journalist Julie Roys, dropped a story of a decades- long child-abuse cover-up in John MacArthur's church. The church shamed the wife/mother of the family and stood by the abuser, even after he was convicted and is still serving time in prison.
Read the story here: https://julieroys.com/macarthur-shamed-excommunicated-mother-take-back-child-abuser/
We talk about the larger issue of church cover-ups for abuse, the misogyny of it all and what to do about it.
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy
or email us: evangelicalish@gmail.com
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Mar 17, 2022 • 1h 7min
Narcissism in the Church
Paul & April are joined by Matthew Phifer, MSEd, who is a therapist, speaker, trainer, and toxic relationship, narcissism, trauma and emotional abuse expert. Matthew is here to talk all about narcissism in the church: the different types of narcissism, the cover churches give for them and signs to look for.
He also tells us about the dangers of high-control groups like cults and how many churches aren't any different when they use FOG - fear, obligation and guilt tactics.
Follow Matt on Tiktok, Youtube, IG @mattphifercoaching
Buy his book "Oh Sh!t, I Think They're a F^cking Narcissist" on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B099X56CDH?tag=mattphifercoa-20
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy
or email us: evangelicalish@gmail.com
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Mar 3, 2022 • 1h 8min
War, End Times & The Biblical Canon
In this episode, we talk about Ukraine, the tragedies of war and the evangelical urge to make every world event about America and the end times.
Then we are joined by Manuel Ramminger, who has a biblical studies degree and has run several Bible schools. He will talk to us about the formation of the Biblical canon- how the Bible was formed and who made the decisions on which books to include and exclude. And knowing the Bible is not the literal Word of God, how should we read it?
Manuel now runs Ethical Trading Company where they fight human trafficking, extreme poverty & exploitation through job creation: www.ethicaltradeco.com
Stay for the end to hear a special announcement from April & her spouse Beecher.
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Feb 24, 2022 • 1h 6min
The Evangelical War on Deconstruction
John Cooper, the frontman for Christian rock band Skillet, recently declared war against deconstruction during a concert and followed it up with a long Facebook explaining the dangers of deconstructing one's faith.
In this episode, Paul, Jeremy & April address Cooper's attack on deconstruction, what he got wrong and what it actually is.
Then we talk about what it's like when people from our evangelical church past come into our lives to leave us comments and messages full of gaslighting and christianese.
We end the show talking about what non-violent weapon we would bring to the frontlines of John Cooper's war.
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


