

Evangelicalish
Evangelicalish
Weekly Livestreams on YouTube on Wed nights at 9pm Eastern/6pm Pacific with hosts Ashley Swearengin and @UnconventionalPastorPaul, Paul Swearengin. She served as mayor of a city, Paul was an evangelical pastor. Together, they were deep in the middle of the rise of Christian nationalism.
Come join us as we discussing a spirituality that reaches beyond the walls of a church building and connects deconstructing people of faith to a renewed identity and a beautiful connection to divine love and goodness. We would love you to join us so we can all grow together in community.
Come join us as we discussing a spirituality that reaches beyond the walls of a church building and connects deconstructing people of faith to a renewed identity and a beautiful connection to divine love and goodness. We would love you to join us so we can all grow together in community.
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Sep 15, 2022 • 1h 24min
A Chat with Kevin Max
Member of popular Christian Band DC Talk, now an exvangelical, Kevin Max joins us.
We discuss how life has been since he tweeted he is an exvangelical, his deconstruction journey, and his upcoming Winter Woods album. We also talk about Lord of the Rings and other fantasy world things just for fun.
Support his Winter Woods Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kevinmax/winter-woods
www.kevinmax.com
Check out our new website and join our ISH Community: www.evangelicalish.com
Join us LIVE in Nashville on Sat. Oct 1, 2022.
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy
Or email us: evangelicalish@gmail.com
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Sep 8, 2022 • 1h 9min
'My Gay Church Days'
In this episode, April and Jeremy talk with George Azar about his story going from an evangelical pastor that "struggled with same-sex attraction" to leaving the church to embrace himself as a gay man. We talk about his upcoming book "My Gay Church Days" and what life was like for him to get to this point.
Follow George @My Gay Church Days
Pre-order his book: https://www.mygaychurchdays.com/
Check out our new website and join our ISH Community: www.evangelicalish.com
Join us LIVE in Nashville on Sat. Oct 1, 2022.
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy
Or email us: evangelicalish@gmail.com
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Sep 1, 2022 • 1h 11min
Matt Chandler, Debt Forgiveness and The Billy Graham Rule Mad-lib
Village Church Pastor Matt Chandler announced he is stepping away from the pulpit after sliding into the DMs of a woman who is not his wife but claim there was nothing romantic or sexual about it. Is there more to the story or was his sin having a female friend?
We discuss and go into the depth on the Billy Graham Rule (that no man should ever be alone with a woman who is not his wife).
Then we talk about Biden's 10k student loan forgiveness and the response from conservative christians.
And we end with a super fun Billy Graham Rule inspired Mad Lib.
Check out our new website and join our ISH Community: www.evangelicalish.com
Join us LIVE in Nashville on Sat. Oct 1, 2022.
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy
Or email us: evangelicalish@gmail.com
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Aug 25, 2022 • 1h 27min
Two Christians and an Atheist Walk Into a Podcast
Podcaster and Comedian David C. Smalley joins us to talk atheism, morality and Christian Nationalism. He also shares how he finally had a breakthrough of common ground with a Trump supporting family member and gives advice on how to talk to others trapped in their echo chamber.
Follow David: @davidcsmalley
https://www.davidcsmalley.com/
Check out our new website and join our ISH Community: www.evangelicalish.com
Join us LIVE in Nashville on Sat. Oct 1, 2022.
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy
Or email us: evangelicalish@gmail.com
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Aug 4, 2022 • 1h 26min
About the Bible with Dr. Dan McClellan
Are the stories in the Bible literal? Allegorical? Moral Fables? So often then Bible doesn’t really say what we’re told it says. How should one read the bible today? Dr. Dan McClellen helps set the story straight and blows our minds in the process.
Follow Dan on TikTok, IG or Twitter: @maklelan
Sign up for his class on the Goddess Asherah here: https://dan-mcclellan.square.site/
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy
Or email us: evangelicalish@gmail.com
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jul 28, 2022 • 1h 18min
Making Idols Out of A$$holes
Why are evangelicals drawn to assholes? Why do Christians want our leaders to be jerks? We discuss the elevation of bigots and nationalism on the main stage in evangelicalism/republicanism.
Also, we talk about grieving in deconstruction: the best and worst parts of leaving your church community.
We finish the episode talking about Greg Locke's "angel wings" aka back sweat.
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy
Or email us: evangelicalish@gmail.com
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jul 21, 2022 • 1h 16min
Leaving Hillsong with Janice Lagata
Janice Lagata was a member/stage manager/super volunteer at Hillsong NYC and was featured in the recent Hillsong Documentary on Discovery+. She's shares her experience with Hillsong and why she left. Then we talk about Mega Churches in general.
We finish the episode doing impromptu sermon illustrations/altar calls based on prompts given to us in the live chat.
Follow Janice on Instagram: @godhasnotgiven
www.janicelagata.com
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy
Or email us: evangelicalish@gmail.com
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jul 14, 2022 • 1h 17min
If We Could Talk To Our Younger Evangelical Selves
In this episode, Paul and April talk about their former evangelical selves: what would they say to us today? What would we say to them?
We also share some cringey Church Kid's Camp stories and discuss the continued harm of purity culture.
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy
or email us: evangelicalish@gmail.com
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jul 7, 2022 • 1h 19min
A Chat with Rev Brandan Robertson
We kick off our new season talking with guest Reverend Brandan Robertson - to hear his story from being the next big up-and-coming evangelical preacher to a now openly gay pastor.
We also talk about patriotism in the church and christian music we had to listen to as kids.
Brandan's website: https://www.brandanrobertson.com/
TikTok: @revbrandanrobertson
Follow the Evangelicalish team on Tiktok, IG, FB & Twitter: @evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy
or email us: evangelicalish@gmail.com
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jun 16, 2022 • 1h 14min
Pride Month & Jan 6 Hearings
**Last Episode of Season 7. We will be back July 6. **
In this episode, we talk about Pride month and our own journeys to becoming theologically affirming of LGBTQ+. Then we talk about the Jan 6 hearings and is there anything to convince people out of "the big lie."
We end the episode reacting to another cringey christian movie.
Follow the Evangelicalish team on TikTok, IG, FB & Twitter:
@evangelicalish, @pastorpaul_tiktok, @pastorfromok, @aprilajoy
or email us: evangelicalish@gmail.com
🎧 Thank you for listening to Evangelicalish!Connect with Us:Join Pastor Paul's Substack Community: Sacred RebellionCheck out Paul’s international blog with the anti-empire group The Quollective 📲 Follow Evangelicalish:Instagram | TikTok | YouTubePaul's Blog on The Quollective Blog Site 🎧 Subscribe & Review:Help us reach others by subscribing, rating, and leaving a review wherever you listen. 💛 Support our work: ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteBuy Paul’s Book: Religious Right Religiously Wrong: A Modern Day Parable 🌐 More from Paul & Ashley:ISH/Pastor-Paul WebsiteEvangelicalish Livestream Sundays at 9am PTThank you for being part of this growing, healing, irreverent, and hopeful community. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


