

Psychologists Off the Clock
Debbie Sorensen, Jill Stoddard, Yael Schonbrun, Michael Herold & Emily Edlynn
We are five experts in psychology, bringing you science-backed ideas that can help you flourish in your work, relationships, and health.
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May 26, 2019 • 1h 7min
91. Disability as a Form of Diversity with Erin Andrews
Disability is an experience that millions of people have, and yet it is often overlooked in discussions related to diversity and inclusivity. Today Debbie talks with Dr. Erin Andrews, a rehab psychologist and advocates for disabilities rights.
Listen and Learn:
Why it’s okay to #SayTheWord Disability.How our attitudes related to Disability can contribute to stigma and shame.Disability culture, and models of Disability.Disability issues Related to parenting and children.How we could do better, and why we need to!
Photo purchased from PhotoAbility , a source of Disability-Affirmative stock photos!
About Dr. Erin Andrews:
Dr. Erin Andrews is a clinical associate professor at Dell Medical School and supervisory psychologist and the co-director of psychology training at the Central Texas Veterans Health Care System. She is a board-certified rehab psychologist with her doctorate from Wright State University and a Bachelor of Science from Michigan State University. Dr. Andrews has had numerous publications and professional lectures on disability topics related to her areas of research interest in disability culture, identity and inclusion. She is a past co-chair of the APA Committee on Disability Issues in Psychology and chair of Division 22 Disability Identity Committee from its inception until 2018. Dr. Andrews has completed innovative work to address the needs of parents with disabilities. She is a co-founder of the Disabled Parenting Project (DPP), a resource for support and information for parents and prospective parents with a wide range of disabilities. Her advocacy work in this area includes representing the American Psychological Association (APA) during a 2013 congressional briefing regarding parents with disabilities and participating in a White House forum on the civil rights of parents with disabilities in May 2016. Dr. Andrews has received numerous awards for her work, most recently an APA Citizen Psychologist Presidential Citation in 2018.
Resources:
Erin’s book, Disability as Diversity: Developing Cultural Competence is now available!Article “#SayTheWord: A Disability Culture Commentary on the Erasure of ‘Disability’”Dr. Erin Andrews’s professional webpage: https://dellmed.utexas.edu/directory/erin-andrewsDisabled Parenting Project: http://www.disabledparenting.com/author/erin/Stella Young’s TED TalkRhoda Olkin’s book What Psychotherapists Should Know About Disability.No Pity: People with Disabilities Forging a New Civil Rights Movement by Joseph ShapiroAPA Division 22: Rehab Psychology Webpage: https://division-rehabpsych.squarespace.com/List of Suggested Reading in Rehab Psychology APA Citizen Psychologist
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May 16, 2019 • 50min
90. Paul Gilbert on Tricky Brains, Caring, and Living Like Crazy
Our human brains have evolved to be quite “tricky.“ They have the capacity to provide compassionate caring and also callous destruction. Dr. Paul Gilbert offers hope: “We get to decide which evolved part of us runs the show.” In this interview, Dr. Gilbert, father of Compassion Focused Therapy, discusses “caring psychology” — psychology that integrates evolution science, attachment theory, mindfulness, neuroscience, and Jungian archetypes. This approach offers a coherent model to alleviate human suffering.
Listen and Learn:
How our tricky brains are a mismatch for our modern-day environmentThe difference between seeking safety and feeling safeWhy our minds loop and what to do about itCaring psychology and hope for our planet
About Dr. Gilbert:
Paul Gilbert, FBPsS, Ph.D., OBE is Professor of Clinical Psychology at the University of Derby and honorary visiting Prof at the University of Queensland. Until his retirement from the NHS in 2016 he was Consultant Clinical Psychologist for over 40 years. He has researched evolutionary approaches to psychopathology with a special focus on mood, shame, and self-criticism in various mental health difficulties for which Compassion Focused Therapy was developed. He was made a Fellow of the British Psychological Society in 1993, president of the BABCP 2002-2004, and was a member of the first British Governments’ NICE guidelines for depression. He has written/edited 21 books and over 250 papers and book chapters. In 2006 he established the Compassionate Mind Foundation as an international charity with the mission statement: To promote wellbeing through the scientific understanding and application of compassion. There are now a number of sister foundations in other countries. He was awarded an OBE by the Queen in March 2011 for services to mental health. He established and is the Director of the Centre for Compassion Research and Training at Derby University UK. He has written and edited many books on compassion. His latest Book is Living Like Crazy.
Resources:
The Compassionate Mind FoundationLiving Like Crazy by Paul GilbertThe Compassionate Mind by Paul GilbertTed Talk: How Mindfulness Fosters Compassion with Paul GilbertCFT Made Simple by Russell Kolts
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May 9, 2019 • 11min
89. A Gift For You – Soothing Rhythm Breathing
Join Diana for a short but sweet Soothing Rhythm Breathing break!
Soothing Rhythm Breathing is a simple technique from Compassion Focused Therapy. It is particularly helpful when you find yourself anxious, angry, over-busy, or emotionally dysregulated. Soothing Rhythm breathing stimulates the vagus nerve, increases heart rate variability, and activates the Parasympathetic Nervous System. Soothing Rhythm Breathing shifts your body/brain systems from drive and threat toward safeness and compassion.
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May 1, 2019 • 59min
88. Perfectionism with Sharon Martin
Do you set unrealistically high expectations for yourself and others? Are you goal-driven, always busy, and have a hard time relaxing? Do you avoid making mistakes? And when you do, do you dwell on them? If so, you may be a perfectionist. Underneath perfectionism is a desire for approval and to connect. Yet, perfectionists often find themselves disconnected from their values and fearing other’s judgment. In this episode, Diana interviews Sharon Martin, LCSW, an expert on perfectionism, about the underpinnings of perfectionism and CBT strategies to let go of your self-critic and find more balance.
Listen and Learn:
the key signs of perfectionismhow and why perfectionism developsthe dark side of perfectionismstrategies to unhook from and challenge perfectionism thinkingCBT techniques to change perfectionistic patterns
Resources:
CBT Workbook For Perfectionism by Sharon Martin, LCSWSharon Martin’s blogThe Gift of Imperfection by Brene BrownBrene Brown’s Ted Talk on Vulnerability and Imperfection
About Sharon Martin, LCSW:
Sharon Martin, LCSW is a licensed psychotherapist and codependency expert practicing in San Jose, CA. She specializes in helping perfectionists and people-pleasers embrace their imperfections and overcome self-doubt and shame. Her own struggle to feel “good enough”, inspired her passion for helping others learn to accept and love themselves. Sharon writes for PsychCentral.com and is the author of the book The CBT Workbook for Perfectionism.
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Apr 23, 2019 • 1h 3min
87. Cribsheet with Emily Oster
Dr. Emily Oster, an award-winning economist and author, shares insights from her new book on relaxed parenting strategies. She discusses the importance of balancing scientific research with personal values. Topics include the truth about breastfeeding myths, the evidence behind effective sleep training, and the impact of working outside the home on children. Emily also offers practical advice for childcare decisions, emphasizing that informed, individualized choices can significantly reduce parenting anxiety.

Apr 16, 2019 • 58min
86. Mom Brain with Ilyse Dobrow DiMarco
Dr. Ilyse Dobrow DiMarco joins Yael for a conversation about how evidence-based psychology can help moms deal more effectively with stress. If you, too, have complicated feelings about being #grateful and/or wanting to sell your child to the highest bidder, join us for a conversation about managing the emotional challenges of parenthood.
Listen to discover:
The normal range of maternal emotionsHow to recruit helpful supportHow to clarify your values as a parentStrategies for better self-care
About Dr. Ilyse Dobrow DiMarco
Ilyse is a clinical psychologist, Diplomate of the Academy of Cognitive Therapy, and writer who specializes in treating stressed out moms using evidence-based approaches (when she isn’t busy being a stressed-out mom to her own two young boys). Ilyse’s writing has been featured in ScaryMommy, Motherwell, Motherly, PopSugar, and she hosts her own blog, drcbtmom.com. Ilyse is currently working on a book that explores mom stress and offers helpful guidance from the world of cognitive-behavioral therapy.
Resources:
Mom Brain: Proven Strategies to Fight the Anxiety, Guilt, and Overwhelming Emotions of Motherhood―and Relax into Your New Self Ilyse’s blog, Dr. CBT MomBeing a Toddler-Mom Can Cause Anxiety—But Here’s What You Can Do, by Ilyse Dobrow DiMarcoTurns Out There Are Some Things We Can Control As Parents, by Ilyse Dobrow DiMarcoSometimes it Makes Sense Not to Give a F*ck, So I’m Learning to Chill Out, by Ilyse Dobrow DiMarco
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Apr 10, 2019 • 52min
85. Emotion Efficacy with Aprilia West
Having emotions is part of being human. At times we may find emotions overwhelming or act ways that are out of alignment with our values when we are emotionally triggered. In this episode, Diana interviews Dr. Aprilia West about how to increase our emotion efficacy and why it matters.
Listen and learn:
Why we are so different in how we experience emotionsSkills needed for emotion efficacyHow to surf an emotion waveWhat Diana is overwhelmed by this week and how to use emotion efficacy skills to helpThe components of Emotion Efficacy Training
About Aprilia West, Psy.D.
Dr. Aprilia West is a Los Angeles-based licensed clinical psychologist, trainer, executive coach and founding partner of coevolve, an organizational consulting firm. She has also served as an advisor, organizational consultant, mediator and executive coach for Fortune 500 companies, entertainment industry executives, U.S. Members of Congress and national and international non-profit advocacy groups and campaigns.
Dr. West is recognized as an expert in emotion efficacy and authored Emotion Efficacy Therapy (EET), which helps people excel under intense stress and distress. She has extensive experience in performance training, working with executives, creatives, and leaders to help them access their full potential and to cultivate resilience in the face of difficulty and challenge.
Resources:
Learn More About Emotion Efficacy Therapy hereClinicians can purchase clinician's guide to Emotion Efficacy Therapy HereRegister for Emotion Efficacy Therapy training in Oakland Here
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Apr 4, 2019 • 1h 7min
84. Courageous Conversations to Prevent Childhood Sexual Abuse with Feather Berkower
April is Child Abuse Prevention month. Therefore, we thought it would be a good idea to bring back Feather Berkower, a leading expert in childhood sexual abuse prevention. During Feather's first visit to our podcast, she spoke to us about ways for Keeping Children Safe from Sexual Abuse. Today Debbie and Feather dive deeper into how to have uncomfortable conversations, with both adults and children, to promote sexual assault prevention. Listen and learn: How to talk to children about sex and body parts in an open, developmentally-appropriate way. What to say to an adult whose behavior with your child makes you uncomfortable. A leading expert’s opinion about sleepovers, play dates, and online safety. The difference between normal sexual play between children and sexual abuse. Ways to encouraging children to tell if sexual abuse occurs, and how to talk to children after a disclosure of abuse. Feather Berkower About Feather Berkower: Feather Berkower, Founder of Parenting Safe Children, is a licensed clinical social worker and one of the nation’s leading experts in child sexual assault prevention. She has dedicated her career — which now spans over three decades — to educating parents and youth professionals on how to make their communities “off limits” to childhood sexual assault. Using her community-based approach, she has trained over 100,000 school children, parents, and youth professionals across the United States. Resources: The Parenting Safe Children webpageBehaviors to watch out for when adults are with children.Feather’s book Off Limits: A Parent’s Guide to Keeping Kids Safe from Sexual AbuseThe Parenting Safe Children workshop calendar and registrationOnline workshop, for those outside the Denver Metro Blog post Feather mentioned about sleepovers Books for Children: Some Parts are Not for Sharing by Julie K. Federico I Said No! A Kid-to-kid Guide to Keeping Private Parts Private by Kimberly & Zack KingAmazing You by Gail Saltz and Lynne Cravath It’s Not the Stork (ages 4+) by Robbie H. Harris It’s So Amazing (ages 7+) by Robbie H. HarrisSome Secrets Should Never Be Kept by Jayneen Sanders What Makes A Baby by Cory SilverbergSex is a Funny Word: A Book about Bodies, Feelings, and YOU by Cory Silverberg and Fiona SmythAdditional book recommendations on the Parenting Safe Children webpage 19. Keeping Children Safe from Sexual Abuse with Feather Berkower Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Mar 26, 2019 • 1h 4min
83. The Tao of Work and Family Balance with Tod Perry and Carl Totton
In this episode, Yael is joined for a discussion of Taoism by What’s This Tao All About podcast hosts, Tod Perry and Dr. Carl Totton. Join us for a lively discussion about how ancient wisdom of Tao can help us find greater balance between work and family roles.
Listen and learn:
New ways to think about the conflict between work and family rolesHow Taoists define yin and yang and how the balance of these forces support greater balanceHow to find moments of quiet in the busyness of modern working parent lifeHow Taoist principles can help us find greater happiness
About Tod Perry and Dr. Carl Totton
Tod Perry is head writer at Upworthy and has a history of doing podcasting, producing shows for Howard Stern and Adam Corolla. Tod became interested in Taoism after reading The Tao of Pooh (by Benjamin Hoff) in his 20’s. Several years later, Tod sought out podcast resources to revitalize his spirituality, but was unable to find something that spoke to his needs. So, he decided to start his own podcast, and What’s This Tao All About was born.
Dr. Carl Totton is a clinical psychologist and founder of the Taoist Institute in Los Angeles, where he offers Chinese internal health and martial arts instruction. Dr. Totton has studied Chinese healing and martial arts for over 45 years and is certified as a qigong and martial arts grandmaster. He has worked in diverse clinical settings including private practice, hospitals, community mental health clinics, and schools. Dr. Totton is listed in the US Martial Arts Hall of Fame and has taught Taoism to many members of the film, music, and entertainment industries.
On What’s This Tao All About, Tod and Dr. Carl Totton offer a lighthearted and fun look at the ancient wisdom of Taoism. They explore the meaning of ancient texts and wisdom and apply these ideas to problems of modern living. Most importantly, they keep it real and really funny.
Resources from Tod Perry and Dr. Carl Totton:
What’s This Tao All About PodcastA Few Particularly Relevant Episodes:What’s This Tao All About, Episode #7 on Balance and MeditationWhat’s This Tao All About, Episode #31 on The Tao of PoohWhat’s This Tao All About, Episode #40 on Balance The Taoist Institute, Los Angeles
A Few Books to Introduce You to Taoism:
The Tao of Pooh by Benjamin HoofThe Tao te Ching, Lao TzuThe Book of Chuang TzuThe Tao of Daily Life, by Derek Lin
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Mar 19, 2019 • 56min
82. Therapist Self Doubt with Jim Lucas
As therapists, we may sometimes self doubt whether our skills are good enough to help our clients. Surprisingly, self-doubt may actually be useful, when used courageously as a tool for improvement. In this episode, Debbie speaks with Jim Lucas, a therapist in the UK who specializes in training and supporting mental health therapists.
Listen and Learn:
The upside of self-doubt for therapists The surprising relationship between therapist self-doubt and client outcomes Balancing how to find self-compassion with the courage to improve your work A brief self-enquiry exercise that can be used to foster healthy therapist self-doubt
About Jim Lucas:
Jim Lucas is an ACT Therapist based in UK who works in private practice and higher education. He is an accredited Cognitive Behavioral Psychotherapist with British Association for Behavioral & Cognitive Psychotherapies and a Teaching Fellow in the School of Psychology at University of Birmingham.
Jim lives and works in Birmingham, UK’s 2nd largest city and ‘city of 1000 trades.’ He runs a psychology business called Openforwards, which specialises in supporting people who work in healthcare, education and other helping professions. As well as offering individual therapy, Jim takes an interest in delivering training to teams of practitioners on Acceptance & Commitment Therapy (ACT) and wellbeing. He is an ACBS peer-reviewed ACT Trainer and runs his own monthly podcast called Self-Help-Sat-Nav.
Resources:
Jim Lucas’s Guidance On How To Do Self-Enquiry in a JournalJim Lucas’s webpageSelf-Help-Sat-Nav (Jim’s Podcast)Developing Openness to Feedback through Cultivating Healthy Self-Doubt (Article by Jason Luoma on www.ActwithCompassion.com)Article “Love yourself as a person, doubt yourself as a therapist.”Radically Open DBT WebsiteThe Resilient Practitioner by Thomas M. Skovholt and Michelle Trotter-Mathison.
Related POTC Episode:
46. Altruism And The Flow Of Compassion With Dr. Yotam Heineberg
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