

Psychologists Off the Clock
Debbie Sorensen, Jill Stoddard, Yael Schonbrun, Michael Herold & Emily Edlynn
We are five experts in psychology, bringing you science-backed ideas that can help you flourish in your work, relationships, and health.
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Nov 8, 2019 • 57min
111. Brave New Medicine with Cynthia Li
The delineation that we like to make between mind and body is really an illusion. It’s one complete circuit.
-Dr. Cynthia Li
In Brave New Medicine: A Doctor’s Unconventional Path to Healing Her Autoimmune Illness Dr. Cynthia Li, an internal medicine physician by training, writes about how her world came crashing down after developing an autoimmune thyroid condition and how she had to journey beyond what Western medicine has to offer to truly heal. Join Diana for a fascinating and important discussion with Dr. Li about functional medicine, a client-centered, science-based approach to looking at and treating the root cause of chronic imbalances in our body.
Listen and Learn:
How functional medicine differs from both Western and Integrative medicine
What are the five main causes of chronic imbalance according to Functional Medicine
Tips on specific classes of foods that promote optimal wellness
How healing emotional wounds impact physical healing
Suggestions for detoxifying your house, re-inhabiting your body, and more!
About Dr. Cynthia Li
Cynthia Li, MD is a physician, functional medicine practitioner, and author of Brave New Medicine: A Doctor’s Unconventional Path to Healing Her Autoimmune Illness, a memoir about chronic illness and return to wellness that challenges the current healthcare system model. Dr. Li has a private practice in integrative and functional medicine in the San Francisco Bay Area and serves as faculty at the University of California San Francisco Medical School. She is a member of the American Board of Internal Medicine, the Institute for Functional Medicine, and Integrative Medicine for the Underserved. Dr. Li is also a contributing author to the Huffington Post’s “Thrive Global” and Psychology Today. Dr. Li received her medical degree from the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas, Texas.
Resources:
Brave New Medicine: A Doctor’s Unconventional Path to Healing Her Autoimmune Illness by Dr. Cynthia Li
The Institute for Functional Medicine
Dr. Cynthia Li’s website, where you can access her blog and links to Functional Medicine resources
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Nov 1, 2019 • 53min
110. Parenting Multiples with Susan Wenze
Caring for a newborn has its challenges, but imagine the challenges of caring for two or more newborns at once! More feedings, diapering, laundry and gear to schlep. We are hardwired to respond to our infants so how do you handle more than one infant crying at once? And when the heck do you sleep? It’s no wonder that parents of multiples experience increased sleep deprivation and mental health issues even as they face greater logistical barriers to accessing mental health treatment and care. In this episode, Yael speaks with Dr. Susan Wenze, a mother of twins and clinical psychologist. Sue offers advice for parents of multiples and describes research on the perinatal mental health of parents with multiples.
Listen and Learn:
Specific mental health concerns for both mothers and fathers of multiples
Clever ways to practice self-care in the midst of parenting twins or more
How parenting multiples can bring partners closer together and other benefits of parenting twins and more
How to ask friends and family for the help that you need
Ways to help non-twin siblings also feel special
How to do self-care when you are a parent of multiples (terrific advice that can be used by all tired parents!).
About Dr. Susan Wenze
Susan Wenze, PhD, is a clinical psychologist and assistant professor at Lafayette College in Easton, PA. She conducts research on depression in the general population and perinatal mental health for parents of multiples. Dr. Wenze is also the parent of elementary school-aged identical twins. She received her PhD in Clinical Psychology from American University and completed her clinical residency and postdoctoral fellowship at Brown University.
Resources:
Sue’s Lafayette College research website
Sue’s work, as featured on NPR
National Organization of Mothers of Twins Club, an online resource and community for parents of multiples
Twiniversity, an online resource and community for parents of multiples
Twins and Multiple Births Association (recently changed the name to Twin Trust), an online resource in the UK
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Oct 25, 2019 • 44min
109. How to Loosen Up and Be Less Overcontrolled: Radically Open DBT with Hope Arnold (part 2)
Hope Arnold, a Senior Clinician and founder of RO DBT Denver, dives into Radically Open Dialectical Behavior Therapy. She discusses how excessive self-control can affect relationships and well-being. Discover the importance of 'social signaling' and how embracing ordinariness can enhance personal growth. Hope highlights the role of mirror neurons in therapy sessions and introduces playful techniques to lighten rigid self-perceptions. Her insights reveal a fresh perspective on emotional flexibility and the challenges of being overcontrolled.

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Oct 22, 2019 • 43min
108. Is Your Self-Control Out of Control? Radically Open DBT with Hope Arnold (part 1)
Hope Arnold, a Senior clinician and trainer in Radically Open DBT and founder of RO DBT Denver, explores the nuances of overcontrol. She reveals how those who appear to have it all together often suffer internally, leading to rigidity and loneliness. The conversation delves into how overcontrolled behaviors impact social connections and emotional expression. Hope also discusses the traits of overcontrol, from high threat sensitivity to reduced reward responsiveness, and emphasizes the importance of emotional openness in fostering genuine connections.

Oct 7, 2019 • 60min
107. Playing Big with Tara Mohr
Do you have something you want to create, a message you want to share, or a calling you keep ignoring? Tara Mohr has practical wisdom for you to unhook from praise and criticism, find your calling, and step into Playing Big. Psychologists Off The Clock started with Taking A Leap inspired by Tara Mohr’s work. Now Diana has the chance to talk with her directly about why it is so difficult for women to speak up, how motherhood re-organizes everything and stepping out of ego into wholeness.
So drag your dreams out from under the carpet and join us for a thought-provoking conversation with Tara Mohr, author of the Apple iBooks best book of the year Playing Big: Practical Wisdom for Women Who Want to Speak Up, Create, and Lead.
Listen and Learn:
Two types of fear that show up for women in Playing Big
How to meet criticism in a patriarchal world
Why acting on “100% certainty” doesn’t make sense
How to reclaim your power through speech
How “Playing Big” changes in motherhood
The role of women supporting women in Playing Big
Resources:
Playing Big: Practical Wisdom for Women Who Want to Speak Up, Create, and Lead by Tara Mohr
Tara Mohr’s Blog
Playing Big: A leadership program for women
The Hivery: A co-working space for women
The Triple Goddess: Maiden, Mother, and Crone
About Tara Mohr:
Tara Mohr is an influential author, Huffington Post columnist, and expert in woman’s leadership and well-being. Her 2015 book Playing Big: Practical Wisdom for Women Who Want to Speak Up, Create, and Lead was named a best book of the year by Apple’s iBooks. Through her Playing Big Leadership Program and Playing Big Facilitators Training Program Tara seeks to empower women to find their voice and contribute to the creation of a more sane and compassionate world. Tara has an MBA from Stanford University, an undergraduate degree in English from Yale University, and her work has been featured in numerous media outlets such as the Harvard Business Review, ForbesWoman, and The Financial Times. Tara lives in San Francisco, CA with her husband and two children.
1. Taking a Leap Into Something Meaningful
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Sep 30, 2019 • 1h 4min
106. Therapy from “The Heart of ACT” with Robyn Walser
Robyn Walser, a licensed clinical psychologist and expert in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, shares heartfelt insights about her new book, The Heart of ACT. She discusses the importance of prioritizing the therapeutic relationship over rigid techniques. Robyn emphasizes authenticity, self-disclosure, and humor in therapy to foster genuine connections. She also explores the impact of modern challenges on mental health, particularly in tech-driven environments, and the necessity of balancing process and technique while navigating the therapist-client dynamic.

Sep 21, 2019 • 53min
105. The Self-Care Prescription with Robyn Gobin
Self-care is a hot topic these days and many of us feel like we should be doing more of it. Yet, the last thing we need is another “to do” on our list. In this episode, Dr. Robyn Gobin and Diana talk about why self-care is more than just pedicures and bubble baths. Dr. Gobin shares her personal experience with self-care and strategies you can put into practice today. So, practice some real self-care and take a listen!
Listen and Learn:
The 6 domains of self-care
Why “listening in” and mindfulness are keys to physical self-care
How Dr. Gobin is working to change the narrative around self-care and mental health in communities of color
How to use "Emptying The Jug” to tend to your Emotional Self-Care
How Dr. Gobin practices self-care on her busiest days and what Diana is doing for self-care before bed
Simple strategies for therapist self-care
About Dr. Robyn Gobin
Dr. Robyn L. Gobin is a Licensed Clinical Psychologist and Assistant Professor at the University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign. She is a nationally recognized expert on interpersonal trauma, women's mental health, and the cultural context of trauma recovery in the African American community. She received her doctorate in clinical psychology from the University of Oregon and completed an internship and postdoctoral training at The National Center for PTSD, Brown University, and the San Diego Department of Veterans Affairs. Her latest book, "The Self-Care Prescription: Powerful Solutions to Manage Stress, Reduce Anxiety, and Enhance Well-Being" aims to change the narrative around mental health and self-care in communities of color and teach people how to incorporate self-care into their busy lives in a sustainable way. Dr. Gobin serves on national and community boards and committees, including the American Psychological Association's Society for the Psychological Study of Ethnicity, Culture, and Race. She is the recipient of the Judy E. Hall Early Career Psychologist Award from the National Register of Health Service Psychologists and a Citizen Psychologist Presidential Citation from the American Psychological Association. To learn more about Dr. Gobin, visit her website at www.robyngobin.com or connect with her on Instagram or Facebook. To learn more about her book and purchase your copy, visit Amazon or www.selfcareprescriptions.com.
Resources:
The Self-Care Prescription: Powerful Solutions to Manage Stress, Reduce Anxiety, and Enhance Well-Being by Robin Gobin
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Sep 13, 2019 • 52min
104. You’re Doing It Wrong with Bethany Johnson and Margaret Quinlan
Join us for a journey through the fascinating history of motherhood, media, and medical expertise! Yael interviews professors Bethany Johnson and Margaret Quinlan about the causes and consequences of medicalizing pregnancy and childbirth, and how technology and culture have long created a message that mothers are doing it all wrong. Learn why we need to change that message, and how we can.
In this episode, we explore the following questions:
How have different forms of mothering expertise grown over history, and how has that development impacted women’s experience in mothering?
What are some of the ways that social media proliferates expertise? How does the message of “you’re doing it wrong” impact our experience?
What is the difference between lay and technical expertise and why does it matter for our mothering experience
How has postpartum care evolved over time and what does that mean for the modern mothering experience?
What strategies can we employ to combat the messages of “you’re doing it wrong”?
About Bethany Johnson and Margaret Quinlan
Bethany L. Johnson (MPhil, M.A.) is an instructor in history and an associate member to the graduate faculty and research affiliate faculty in the department of communication studies at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. She studies how science, medicine, and health discourses are framed and reproduced by institutions and individuals from the 19th century to the present. She has published in interdisciplinary journals such as Health Communication, Women & Language, Departures in Critical Qualitative Research and Women's Reproductive Health.
Margaret M. Quinlan is an associate professor in the department of communication studies at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. She explores how communication creates, resists and transforms knowledge about bodies. She critiques power structures in order to empower individuals who are marginalized inside and outside of healthcare systems. She authored approximately 40 journal articles, 17 book chapters and co-produced documentaries in a regional Emmy award-winning series.
Resources
You’re Doing it Wrong: Mothering, media, and medical expertise, by Bethany Johnson and Margaret Quinlan (30 percent discount available for our listeners if you use the code to make the purchase through this website. Code: 02AAAA17)
Click here to head to Maggie and Bethany’s research page or here to get more information about their new book.
You can find Maggie and Bethany on social media using the following links:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/JQ_Research
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JohnsonQuinlanResearch/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/johnsonquinlanresearch/
The Marketplace of the Marvelous, by Erika Janik
Previous episodes we refer to during our conversation include an episode on Practical Wisdom with Barry Schwartz and our interview with Emily Oster in which we explore strategies to better decision-making in parenthood.
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Sep 6, 2019 • 53min
103. Healthy Habits with Dayna Lee-Baggley
If you care about your health, but aren’t the type of person who loves to jump out of bed, hit the gym, and reward your efforts with a kale smoothie, this is the podcast episode for you! We all know what healthy behaviors are, but most of us struggle with how to engage in them, especially when they feel hard and unenjoyable. Join Debbie for an engaging discussion with Dr. Dayna Lee-Baggley, author of Healthy Habits Suck: How to Get Off the Couch and Live a Healthy Life….Even if You Don’t Want To, about evidence-based strategies on how to overcome the internal obstacles that make behavior change hard, and how to sustain lifelong healthy habits.
Listen and Learn:
Why healthy habits violate the hard-wiring of our “caveman brain”
How linking health habits to values can make them more meaningful and build motivation
The benefits of focusing on behaviors rather than outcomes to foster success
What is a “smart goal” and how to make them work for you
How to work with the thoughts and emotions that makes healthy habits hard
About Dayna Lee-Baggley:
Dayna Lee-Baggley, Ph.D., is a clinical psychologist and health-behaviors researcher based in Nova Scotia, Canada where she conducts research on behavior change, obesity, chronic disease, and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT). Dr. Lee-Baggley holds appointments as an assistant professor in the Department of Family Medicine at Dalhousie University and as an adjunct professor in the Department of Industrial and Organizational Psychology at Saint Mary’s University. She is also the director of the Centre for Behaviour Change Research in Nova Scotia where she conducts research and training in chronic disease management. In addition, Dr. Lee Baggley is an internationally respected ACT trainer, has authored close to 40 peer-reviewed publications, and is the author of the book Healthy Habits Suck: How to Get Off the Couch and Live a Healthy Life….Even if You Don’t Want To.
Resources:
Healthy Habits Suck: How to Get Off the Couch and Live a Healthy Life….Even if You Don’t Want toDayna’s Website (https://drleebaggley.com), where you can find out more about her research, training, and clinical practice.@DrLeeBaggley, Dayna’s Twitter account, where she tweets about healthy habits and tips for healthcare providers
From Debbie and Diana’s Introduction to the Episode:
Check out these Beeswax Wraps and Reusable Produce Bags recommended by Diana to reduce single-use plastic consumption!
Debbie roasting broccoli to go with tofu and peanut sauce, as a move toward her values-based goal of a more plant-based diet!
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Aug 27, 2019 • 1h 9min
102. A Liberated Mind with Steven Hayes
Steven Hayes, co-founder of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, discusses his book 'A Liberated Mind' on the podcast. Topics include avoiding thoughts and feelings, psychological flexibility, and developing a Liberated Mind. The guests also explore self-doubt, emotional avoidance, and empowering growth through values-based actions.


