

BiggerPockets Money Podcast
BiggerPockets
Intermediate to advanced personal finance strategies for people serious about the FIRE (financial independence retire early) movement—not just dreaming about it.
Tune in on Tuesdays and Fridays for new BiggerPockets Money episodes with your hosts, Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench! Or visit BiggerPocketsMoney.com with additional resources.
Tune in on Tuesdays and Fridays for new BiggerPockets Money episodes with your hosts, Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench! Or visit BiggerPocketsMoney.com with additional resources.
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Aug 5, 2019 • 1h 21min
84: Traditional Retirement: Social Security, Market Conditions & Managing Expectations with Kyle Mast
Kyle Mast first visited us on Episode 41 of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, and he BLEW US AWAY with his suggestions, ideas, tips and tricks for early retirement.Kyle is back again today to talk more to traditional age retirees - those of us who are retiring at or near age 65.Retiring now can seem scary - the market is near all-time highs and has been so for a very long time. Markets are cyclical and unpredictable.Kyle shares how to ride out the storm with strategies to manage both behavior and emotions. He’s a big fan of Retirement Fund Dates - but not of putting all your retirement eggs into one fund-date basket. Kyle also looks at Social Security and covers several scenarios to help you decide when to start receiving your benefits. Kyle is a fee-only Certified Financial Planner - and this episode shows time and again just how valuable a consultation with a CFP can be. If you’re nearing traditional retirement age - and you’re not quite sure what’s next - THIS episode is especially for you.Topics:
How to set up portfolio transitioning to traditional retirement age
On managing behavior and emotion
What a bucket strategy is
Sequence of returns risk
Delaying social security
On claiming social security
Income limitation for social security
The importance of having an understanding of social security
What people look for when finding a financial planner
Designing lifestyle and expectation around spending
How to plan your expenses on retirement
What a long-term care insurance is
On having a long-term cafe insurance with golden policy
On target date funds
Identifying your own risk tolerance
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Jul 29, 2019 • 1h 21min
83: Buying Your First House with Scott & Mindy
Buying your first home - either an investment or a primary residence - can be scary. This is a HUGE purchase, and no one wants to mess that up. But buying a house doesn’t have to be scary, if you’re properly prepared.This week, Scott and Mindy sit down and talk about the process - what you need to consider BEFORE you even start looking at houses and what to REALLY look for when you’re looking at houses.They also talk about different funding options, different purchasing strategies and even different ways to hack your housing to live for free - or make big money when you sell.If you’re in the market for your first property - or second or third - or you’re just starting to think about buying a house, this is an episode you cannot miss!In This Episode We Cover:
First step that Scott recommend someone once they decide to purchase a home
Consider exit options
Three possible exit options
Don't buy on a busy street
Don’t put yourself in an artificial urgent state on buying your first house
Don't spend every dime you have on your downpayment
How real estate agents and mortgage brokers are incentivise
On funding
Mortgage broker versus a lender
Adjustable versus fixed rate mortgage
What a mortgage insurance is
FHA versus conventional loan
On house hacking
Credit score on Credit Karma
Pre-qualification versus pre-approval process
How to find a real estate agent
Things to inspect and to avoid on buying your first home
7 step checklist for buying your first home
And SO much more!
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Jul 23, 2019 • 38min
Money Dates, Prenups & Combining Finances with Aditi Shekar
Talking to your partner about money can be very difficult - especially when you’re bringing up the conversation for the first time.Today, we’ve brought Aditi Shekar back to discuss finances from a couple’s point of view. Yesterday we heard Aditi’s personal money story, and today she shares tips for speaking to your partner about your finances. How to go on a Money Date, all about her $20 prenup and why she feels everyone should have one, her guide to combining your finances. In fact, Aditi is so passionate about personal finance in general, and couples finance specifically, she created an app to help you share and discuss finances with your partner! Zeta is a personal finance app designed for couples to help you stay on top of your finances, together. Looking for a way to talk about money with your partner? This episode was made especially for you.In This Episode We Cover:
The first thing that a couple should do once they discover that they are far apart on money
The importance of talking about money early and often with your significant other
Layers of fights about money
Guide to combining finances
On prenup and how she approach the subject with significant other
On people who didn’t have prenups
How to go on a money date
Finding out who is the CFO in couple
Her relationship advice and tip for listeners
The importance of knowing your money personality
And SO much more!
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Jul 22, 2019 • 58min
82: Early Money Lessons Create Healthy Money Experiences with Aditi Shekar
Aditi Shekar learned entrepreneurship at a very early age - when she asked her father for a toy and he said no, make your own money. She’s been creating businesses ever since.Her father’s advice wasn’t the only great money management tips she received early on. In college, a finance professor did two entire classes on personal finance, sharing the benefits of starting early to save for retirement. Her financial independence journey was kickstarted when her apartment burned down - and she had no renters insurance. “I don’t want more stuff. I just want to figure out the life I want to lead.” Aditi and her husband took a roadtrip to discover where they wanted to live, and ended up in two separate cities, visiting on the weekends. Time apart made them realize they wanted to be together, so she moved to him, and started the life she truly wanted.In This Episode We Cover:
Aditi's journey with money
On learning about entrepreneurship and business ethics at age 5
Her philosophy on spending money
How she developed discipline when she got her first job
Saving early for retirement
Big question to ask yourself when you're opening a retirement account
How she started investing
The importance of creating a rule of thumb
Started teaching a class on personal finance
The realisation she had after their apartment burned down
The importance of emergency funds
How her outlook changed in terms of life and finances after the fire incident happened
Her goal in her financial journey
And SO much more!
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Jul 15, 2019 • 56min
81: The Basics of Investing with Erin Lowry from Broke Millennial
Erin Lowry last joined us on Episode 24 of the BiggerPockets Money Podcast, where she talked about getting Financially Naked with your partner. She’s back today to talk about investing - and all the things many people don’t really know. Erin shares the basics that so many articles and podcasts gloss over - but that are so important to know in order to be financially successful. She also has a new book out: Broke Millennial Takes On Investing: A Beginner’s Guide to Leveling Up Your Money, where she tackles investment basics. If you’re new to investing, or just having trouble figuring out all the terminology, this episode is right up your alley. In This Episode We Cover: Where Erin started investing The importance of educating yourself On setting financial goals What a time horizon is Her take on insurance What to think about when it comes to investing Her take on retirement The easiest way to start investing for retirement What a target date fund is Two different ways to think about investing What are the difference between Traditional IRA and Roth IRA How to start investing when you still have debts Credit card debt versus student loans How powerful compound interest is Important thing she wants people to take away from this episode about investing And SO much more! Links from the Show BiggerPockets Forums Getting Financially “Naked” with Your Significant Other — With Erin Lowry NerdWallet MagnifyMoney Bankrate Investor.gov Vanguard Fidelity
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Jul 13, 2019 • 50min
What’s Your Why of FI?: Recorded Live at CampFI
This Bonus Episode of The Money Podcast was recorded live at CampFI, a financial independence retreat for people on all parts of the journey to Financial Independence. Scott Trench was celebrating his mom’s birthday, so Mindy Jensen is joined by Paul Thompson and Paula Pant, asking attendees of CampFI why they are on the path to Financial Independence, and hearing a bit about their stories. Answers range from spending more time with kids, to lifestyle, health, and simply being able to retire at all. If you feel like you’re the only one on the path to financial freedom, this episode shows that you’re not alone, this journey IS possible, and you CAN do it!
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Jul 8, 2019 • 1h 3min
80: Managing Money: How a Saver & a Spender Are Living Happily Ever After with Rich & Regular
Kiersten and Julien came from two very different money backgrounds. She’s the naturally spendy one, and he’s the natural saver. Their money views came to a head on their first vacation, when she put everything on a credit card—not to earn reward points—because she didn’t have the money to pay for it. The ensuing argument caused them to have some pretty tough money conversations very early on in their relationship. But it also set them up for early financial freedom. Kiersten decided her old, spendy ways weren’t what she wanted out of life. She started shedding her "things" so that she could pay off her debt and start investing. They researched and discovered a hole in the FI community. There just weren’t many blogs devoted to the African American community that focused on tips about money and early financial freedom. So, they started their blog, Rich & Regular, to bridge this gap. Investing in real estate helped create enough passive income for Julien to leave his corporate job, and for the couple to start living the life they truly want. Plus, don't miss when Julien casually drops one of the best paying-for-college tips that's ever been shared on this show. If you’re struggling with spending too much money or reconciling your frugal ways with that of your partner, this is a must-listen episode. In This Episode We Cover: Julien's money journey Frugality as part of his everyday life On feeling he needed different ways to earn income On his job right after college How Julien and Kiersten met Kiersten's money journey On her sales and retail experience How Kiersten had a problem with spending Julien’s hack to pay $25 per semester in college Reason Kiersten got into debt Talking about their relationship journey and how they fixed their money problems Went on a saving spree after paying off all his debts Didn’t get into investing together until after marriage Their philosophies on buying properties On their investment properties How their careers have progressed since marriage And SO much more! Links from the Show BiggerPockets Forums Getting Financially “Naked” with Your Significant Other — With Erin Lowry FinCon Financial 180 Mint CampFI
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Jul 1, 2019 • 1h 8min
79: Financial Freedom Through Decades of Hard Work and Hustle with Carol Scott
Carol Scott has a successful real estate investing company that she runs with her husband, Jay. They have two children, live where they want, and just in general enjoy life on their own terms, free from the stress of having a “real” job, a boss and all the time constraints that come along it. But it wasn’t always this way for her. Carol grew up without having a lot of money. Her financial journey really begins at age 9, when her mother told her if she wanted to have nice shampoo, she had to figure out a way to earn money to buy it. Enter Carol’s hustle. Whenever Carol wanted to buy something, she started a new entrepreneurial endeavor. Face painting, caligraphy - anything related to art was fair game for young Carol. At age 15, she hopped onto her bike and rode up to the convenience store, all but demanding a job. She graduated college into a job where she had regular access to the C-Suite - and mentorship opportunities abound. Carol’s focus turned to learning - and she picked up tips from every person she encountered. She’s here today to share many of these tips with you, and to inspire your journey through her own. This is a tale of never giving up, and not being satisfied with what life throws at you. Go out and grab the bull by the horns. In This Episode We Cover: Carol's background with money On starting her financial independence and entrepreneurial journey at age 9 The importance of having a work ethic Did calligraphy, face painting, signs, and artsy stuff to earn money What she did with the money she earned On her college journey The big transition which occurred between her freshmen and sophomore year On the first internship she got Coming out of college with $35k in student loan debt and $40k in credit card debt Exposure to C-level people How growing up with no money influenced her behavior How she began making lots of money Taking leadership courses her companies pay for Moving to Franklin Covey 8 years into her career Her advice to those who are looking to get into a job that offers a high salary What’s urgent versus what’s important How she began managing her money How she handles her investments What she does post-career at eBay The importance of being resourceful The importance of spending time with the family And SO much more! Links from the Show BiggerPockets Forums eBay FranklinCovey BiggerPockets Money Podcast 70: 7 Tips for Successfully Investing in ANY Market Condition With J Scott
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Jun 24, 2019 • 1h 7min
78: How to Talk to Your Parents About Money with Cameron Huddleston
Parents are supposed to know everything, and talking about money is impolite. So how do you make sure your parents are taken care of and that their wishes are followed throughout their golden years? Today Scott and Mindy sit down with Cameron Huddleston, author of Mom and Dad, We Need to Talk: How to Have Essential Conversations With Your Parents About Their Finances, who shares her story of the journey through her mother’s finances pre- and post-Alzheimer's. Cameron also shares the documents your parents need to have—the documents YOU need to have—to be able to help them navigate their finances as they advance in age. She offers encouragement for continuing the conversation after parents initially say, “That’s none of your business.” She explains everything from the perspective of someone who has been through the more difficult times of parental financial navigation. BiggerPockets Money guests have typically focused on their own journey to financial freedom. But this episode provides guidance for starting challenging conversations with your parents. Use Cameron's advice to sit down with them and make sure their wishes are followed. In This Episode We Cover: Cameron's journey with money Got $1 a week and saved money to buy model horses How she fell into the world of personal finance writing Worked as a reporter before transitioning into the personal finance field Learned about money once she started writing about personal finance The importance of having a will How she reconciled the shift with her parents How to start the conversation with your parents Scenarios to open the door to more conversations with your parents What you can do if your parents say their finances are none of your business or don't want to share any information with you Overview of key things to have in place as far as what your parents should have Legal documents—a will or a living trust Power of Attorney Document Living will or advance directive Long-term care insurance Resources people can go to to get professional help The importance of meeting with an attorney Where people can find an estate planning attorney Some of the fights that occur when there is a lack or prep and how to avoid this The difference between old people’s home and retirement community Mistakes to avoid as parents go into retirement or begin to age And SO much more! Links from the Show BiggerPockets Forums Kiplinger
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Jun 17, 2019 • 57min
77: Entrepreneuring Your Way To Financial Freedom with Pete Mockaitis
Pete Mockaitis grew up in the cheapest place to live, Danville, IL. He watched his mother work her way up the local credit union ladder from teller to CEO, simply by doing more than necessary, repeatedly. His mother strongly discouraged debt, having seen so many of the credit union’s customers declare bankruptcy and have their entire bank accounts wiped out. As a kid, he saw firsthand that hustle pays off. He helped his brother with his paper route for a quarter, only to learn his brother was making $1.80. After high school, he got into college on a full ride scholarship, and graduated into his dream job with Bain & Company. He saved money by skipping the little things like taking a cab when he could walk, having roommates instead of living alone, and drinking water instead of ordering drinks when he was out. Pete’s true calling was entrepreneurship. To prepare for the jump to self employment, he figured out his burn rate - and discovered it was a lot lower than he originally thought. By figuring out how much he was spending, and computing the value of his pre and post tax time, Pete optimized his path to Financial Freedom, and is now enjoying the fruits of his labor. In This Episode We Cover: Pete's journey with money Lessons he learned from his mother How he applied the lessons he learned in his approach to early financial freedom How he pursued early financial freedom On growing up frugal Why it took him 3 years to save a year’s worth of living expenses His advice for people who would like to try the entrepreneurial route The importance of being smart with your savings On being real and quantitative On tracking recurring and non recurring expenses and breaking it down into dollars per day On his revenue generation His advice on building revenue On investing And SO much more! Links from the Show BiggerPockets Forums How to Become an “Overnight” Success in 10 Short Years with David Greene How To Be Awesome At Your Job Episode 386: How to Earn More, Spend Less, and Build Wealth with Mindy Jensen BiggerPockets Money Podcast 73: Ramit Sethi Will Teach You to Be Rich! BiggerPockets Money Podcast 56: Change Your Personal Finances (& Your Millennial Money Mindset) with Paychecks & Balances Podcast Movement
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