The Business of Us

What happens when a business that once brought a couple together starts taking over the relationship? In this episode of The Business of Us, Cameron and Jamie talk with Mike and Jackie Schoenberger about building a company together, recognizing when work is crowding out connection, and making the brave choice to change course. They share how a growth mindset, honest communication, and a shared vision for the future helped them protect their marriage while pursuing big dreams. The Business of Us is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is "Kenton" by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you'd like to listen to next; please drop us a line at BusinessofUsPodcast@gmail.com to share what's on your mind.

In this episode, Jamie Born joins Cameron to explore what happens after entrepreneurs reach the peak of success. They discuss how achievement can leave people feeling disoriented, the importance of building identity beyond work, and how awareness, rest, and emotional anchors can guide the next phase of life and relationships. The Business of Us is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is "Kenton" by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you'd like to listen to next; please drop us a line at BusinessofUsPodcast@gmail.com to share what's on your mind.

Tom Bronson joins Cameron and Jamie to explore what happens when success isn't the finish line but the beginning of a new journey. Drawing from his experience building and selling over 100 companies, Tom shares lessons on communication, alignment, and rediscovering purpose after a major business exit. This conversation invites entrepreneurial couples to reflect on what's next and how to define success beyond the business. The Business of Us is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is "Kenton" by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you'd like to listen to next; please drop us a line at BusinessofUsPodcast@gmail.com to share what's on your mind.

Greg and Diana Keys share their journey through financial strain, burnout, and rediscovering connection when everything felt like it was falling apart. What began as a business crisis became the foundation for a stronger partnership—one built on honesty, teamwork, and vulnerability. This episode explores how redefining success and learning to be seen changed both their marriage and their business. The Business of Us is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is "Kenton" by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you'd like to listen to next; please drop us a line at BusinessofUsPodcast@gmail.com to share what's on your mind.

In this episode, Jamie interviews her co-host, Cameron Madill, about what it really takes for entrepreneurial couples to stay connected when business and life feel overwhelming. Cameron shares lessons from his personal journey, his research with hundreds of couples, and how small shifts—like creating slow spaces, building emotional awareness, and treating relationships with the same intentionality as business—can help partners make it work on the first mountain of entrepreneurship and love. The Business of Us is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is "Kenton" by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you'd like to listen to next; please drop us a line at BusinessofUsPodcast@gmail.com to share what's on your mind.

In this episode, Cameron and Jamie talk with author and mindfulness expert Nate Klemp, coauthor of The 80/80 Marriage and the upcoming book Busy Love. Nate shares insights on how couples can move beyond fairness toward generosity, balance ambition with intimacy, and stay connected amid the chaos of modern life. The conversation explores practical tools for building intentional, thriving relationships that grow alongside business and family. The Business of Us is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is "Kenton" by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you'd like to listen to next; please drop us a line at BusinessofUsPodcast@gmail.com to share what's on your mind.

In this episode, Cameron and Jamie introduce the Three Mountains Framework (partnership, purpose, and passion) as a way to understand the universal relationship challenges entrepreneurs and their spouses face across a lifetime. Drawing from personal stories, research, and therapeutic insights, they explore how couples can use these inevitable moments of strain to deepen intimacy, resilience, and connection. Key takeaways The Three Mountains Framework: Relationships evolve through three recurring challenges—How do we make it work (partnership)? What comes next (purpose)? Who are we now (passion)? Zooming Out for Perspective: Stepping back to see challenges as part of a larger journey can reduce shame, resentment, and disconnection. Turning Points that Strengthen Relationships: Borrowing tools from business (clear roles, accountability), prioritizing rituals of quality time, and seeking outside perspective can help couples thrive under strain. Beyond Goal Achievement: Success doesn't inoculate couples against disorientation; recalibration and open conversations about shifting identities and priorities are essential. Preparing for the Empty Nest: As career and parenting become less important, intentional planning for shared joy and individual meaning is essential so couples can grow together in their later years. The Business of Us is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is "Kenton" by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you'd like to listen to next; please drop us a line at BusinessofUsPodcast@gmail.com to share what's on your mind.

In this engaging conversation, Dorcas Cheng-Tozun, an award-winning writer and expert on entrepreneurship and relationships, shares her journey as the spouse of an entrepreneur. She reveals how the challenges of startup life led to resentment and emotional distance in her marriage. Dorcas offers valuable insights on the importance of understanding an entrepreneur’s mindset, navigating jealousy, and reclaiming personal identity. She discusses the hidden costs of entrepreneurial relationships and the paradox that success doesn’t always guarantee happiness.

Entrepreneurship isn't just a career—it's an emotional rollercoaster. The Business of Us dives into the mental health realities of entrepreneurs, exploring how pre-existing conditions can be exacerbated and, in some cases, entirely induced by the high-stakes world of business ownership. With 38% of entrepreneurs facing at least one mental health condition, we examine the personality traits that make founders thrive—and the emotional labor that comes with it. From the isolation and sleepless nights to the drive for achievement, we'll unpack how business owners can protect their well-being without sacrificing their ambition. Key takeaways from today's episode: Entrepreneurship demands massive emotional labor—understanding it is the first step to managing it. Mental health struggles aren't uncommon in entrepreneurship; the highs and lows of the journey can amplify or even create them. Founders benefit from prioritizing mental well-being—sleep, social support, outdoor time, and self-care matter as much as strategy. The "Entrepreneurial Emotional Labor Union" mindset: you're not alone, and you don't have to carry the burden in silence. Be a realist: don't pretend things are great when they aren't, and remember to set goals beyond just business success. Entrepreneurship can be addictive—balance ambition with personal well-being. Always love something as much as you love your company. The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is "Kenton" by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at BusinessofUsPodcast@gmail.com to share what's on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.

Rick and Emily Garner started their journey as a couple while debating the best way to turn their passion for gourmet food into a business. Rick had always dreamed of opening a restaurant, and when he launched his sandwich shop, their roles in both business and home life naturally fell into place. A year later, Emily started a catering company, and they implemented the 51/49 rule to balance decision-making. They work together all day and still like each other and want to see each other at the end of the day. Key takeaways from today's episode: Conflict is natural but must be managed carefully in front of employees to foster a culture where disagreement is productive, not personal. Differentiating between a conflict of ideas and a conflict of personalities is crucial for maintaining a healthy business relationship. Knowing when to step back and when to step in is essential for effective leadership and partnership. Creating clear boundaries and rituals —like their "high five" ritual—helps maintain a strong personal connection outside of work. The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is "Kenton" by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at BusinessofUsPodcast@gmail.com to share what's on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.