

The Business of Us
Cameron Madill and Jamie Born
The Business of Us tells the stories of entrepreneurs and their relationships. In our podcast, we focus on what it means to be a couple when one or both partners own a business, the science around committed partnerships and entrepreneurial personalities, and specific actions you can take today to improve your relationship.
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Mar 24, 2025 • 36min
Grow Your Business Without Growing Apart
Entrepreneurial success and a thriving marriage don't have to be at odds. Kelly Clements joins The Business of Us Podcast to share how couples can bridge the ambition gap, balance Alpha and Beta energies, and apply six key principles to strengthen both their relationship and business. Discover why the best 10x strategy isn't just in your company—it's in your marriage. Key takeaways from today's episode: Entrepreneurial Success Starts at Home: While coaching with Strategic Coach in 2004, Kelly Clements saw a clear pattern—strong marriages correlated with business growth. The Ambition Gap: Many couples struggle when one partner pushes for growth while the other resists. Understanding this gap is key to alignment. Alpha vs. Beta Spectrum: High-driving Alphas and stability-seeking Betas must blend strengths to reach Omega—a balanced, thriving partnership. 6 Presence Principles: Play, Praise, Purpose, Provision, Protection, and Pursuit—key habits that fuel both business and love. Masculine & Feminine Energy Balance: Success comes from integrating assertive (masculine) and intuitive (feminine) energies in both relationships and work. The Best 10x Strategy: A thriving marriage is the foundation for a thriving business—invest in your relationship for the biggest returns. The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is "Kenton" by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at BusinessofUsPodcast@gmail.com to share what's on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.

Feb 20, 2025 • 38min
Faith, Trust, and Starting Over: A Journey Through Marriage, Recovery, and Risk
In this heartfelt episode, Bobby and Andi share their journey of meeting in an unlikely place—an AA meeting—and building a relationship rooted in faith, trust, and resilience. They discuss how they embraced life's "do-overs," turned post-traumatic challenges into growth, and took a leap of faith into entrepreneurship. Through fear, uncertainty, and unwavering trust in each other, they reveal the transformative power of patience, listening, and believing in second chances. Key takeaways from today's episode: Faith in Do-Overs: Life's "mistakes" can be opportunities to grow and rebuild with intention. Post-Traumatic Growth: Adversity can strengthen roots and foster profound personal and relational growth. Unwavering Trust: Trusting one another creates a foundation, even when self-confidence falters. Responding to Fear with Faith: Facing fears and uncertainties with faith can lead to unexpected rewards. The Power of Listening: Listening without the urge to fix can deepen connection and understanding. Patience and Reaching Out: Taking time and seeking support are essential steps in cultivating faith and resilience. The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is "Kenton" by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at BusinessofUsPodcast@gmail.com to share what's on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.

Jan 19, 2025 • 39min
Balancing Acts: Women, Entrepreneurship, and the Currency of Time
This episode explores the unique challenges women entrepreneurs face in balancing business, love, and family, featuring Lauren Reed-Williams journey from reluctant entrepreneur to financial advocate. Lauren shares insights on empowering women financially, valuing time as currency, navigating a business exit, and designing a fulfilling life with intentionality and balance. Key takeaways from today's episode: Unique Challenges for Women Entrepreneurs: Women often face societal expectations to manage childcare and emotional labor as well as to not overshadow their spouse, adding to the mental toll of balancing business, love, and family. Designing Your Life: Success requires prioritization and realistic expectations. Lauren shares her experiences growing a successful PR agency while being a mother and navigating a divorce, and some of the life trade-offs she believes are necessary to achieve a fulfilling life. Time is our Most Precious Resource: Time is Lauren's most precious currency, reflected in her decision to take 90 days off to realign priorities and balance work with personal fulfillment. She shares her belief that we often have a financial target where we believe we will feel secure, but that when we get there it's still not enough. Financial Empowerment for Women: Through the Wealth of a Woman (thewealthofawoman.com) project, Lauren advocates for healthier financial relationships and highlights the importance of empowering women and daughters to take control of their finances. Even some of the most successful female entrepreneurs still have financial anxieties and scarcity mindsets due to legacy societal limitations. The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is "Kenton" by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at BusinessofUsPodcast@gmail.com to share what's on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.

Dec 16, 2024 • 32min
Treat Your Family As Your Most Important Asset
Join us as we explore the intricate dynamics of being married to an entrepreneur. In this episode, we delve into the unique challenges and triumphs faced by a spouse. Our guest Ashley Corn, a seasoned performance coach for veterans, athletes, and entrepreneurs, shares personal insights from her own experience as well as findings from interviews with 40 entrepreneurial spouses. Key takeaways from today's episode: Ashley heard three common themes from life partners of entrepreneurs: Different Risk Profiles & Levels of Optimism: Understanding and managing differing attitudes towards risk and optimism between partners. Challenges around Stress & Control: Coping with high levels of stress due to unpredictability and lack of control over entrepreneurial ventures. Loneliness: Addressing feelings of loneliness from having a partner who works long hours and who is often distracted even when physically present. She suggested the following strategies to build a stronger relationship: Start talking early and often to build a shared vision that ensures alignment and mutual understanding as a couple. There will be personal sacrifices in any relationship, and putting one's own dreams and ambitions on hold temporarily is much easier if the end goal is shared. Realizing you are not alone in these experiences and seeking outside therapeutic guidance for support. Remembering that the things that might drive you crazy about your partner are also why you feel in love in the first place. It will be a big, full life that is never dull. Tune in to gain valuable perspectives and actionable advice for maintaining a healthy, supportive relationship while pursuing entrepreneurial success. The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is "Kenton" by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at BusinessofUsPodcast@gmail.com to share what's on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.

Dec 2, 2024 • 43min
Talk About it Before it Blows Up
Join us as we dive into the ups and downs of marriage, where challenges become the gritty canvas for greatness. Dean and Alana Stott share their journey of building a family and multiple businesses together by having fun in the mud, understanding each other's strengths, and connecting around shared and individual goals. Key takeaways from today's episode: Relentless Resilience: Challenges are the stepping stones to greatness; embrace the dirt and grit instead of trying to become an "Instagram couple" focused on external perceptions. Unique Strengths: Recognize and celebrate individual strengths and weaknesses in partnerships. Marriage and Business Synergy: Effective communication and shared goals strengthen both personal and business relationships. Defining Wealth: Wealth is multifaceted, extending beyond financial means to include shared values and goals. Shared Mission: Learn about the Blue Rose Foundation's efforts to prevent child trafficking and heal trauma survivors. Entrepreneurial Advice: Open communication and mutual respect for shared and individual goals are key to success. Tune in to hear more about our journey and how you can apply these principles in your own life and ventures! The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is "Kenton" by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at BusinessofUsPodcast@gmail.com to share what's on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.

Nov 18, 2024 • 49min
Harnessing ADHD Strengths in Relationships
In this episode, therapist Anita Robertson, explores the intricate dynamics of ADHD and relationships. Several years ago, Anita found herself struggling as a new mother with ADHD and, in the process of her own relationship growth and adaptation, realized that most relationship tools didn't work for ADHD without refinement. Anita sheds light on the different ways ADHD can show up in our behavior and how to channel the unique ways ADHD can invigorate relationships, such as passion and novelty-seeking. Key takeaways from today's episode: Understanding ADHD: Recognize the variability in how ADHD presents and its influence on executive functioning and sensory experiences. Harnessing ADHD Strengths: Leverage qualities like passion and novelty-seeking to enrich relationships. Five Pillars of ADHD Relationships: Growth mindset, praise, games, and positive acceptance are essential for thriving partnerships. Effective Household Management: Transform chores into engaging games with minimal steps, using playlists and rewards. Dopamine and Brain Performance: Keep dopamine levels high to optimize focus and relationship dynamics. Relationship Bootcamps: Structured activities can help partners learn to appreciate and utilize their differences. The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is "Kenton" by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at BusinessofUsPodcast@gmail.com to share what's on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.

Nov 6, 2024 • 32min
Two Couples, One Vision: Powering Through Entrepreneurship Together
In this episode, we delve into the unique challenges and opportunities that arise when two married couples, Dale and Melisa, and Jake and Kendi, come together to pursue an entrepreneurial endeavor. The four individuals bring diverse backgrounds and experiences, from wealth management and healthcare to operational consulting and the automotive industry. Together, they have formed Slanted Saguaro, LLC, with the goal of acquiring and turning around struggling businesses. Key takeaways from today's episode: Aligning Business Vision and Strategies: The couples discuss the importance of building trust, open communication, and a shared understanding of their goals and objectives. They share insights on how they navigate the complexities of aligning their individual visions and strategies while maintaining the integrity of their marriages. Balancing Work and Personal Life: The hosts explore the challenges of ensuring that their marriage and personal relationships do not get lost in the hustle and bustle of their entrepreneurial venture. They share strategies for carving out dedicated time for each other, such as their weekly Monday night date night, and how they prioritize staying connected. Building Wealth and Giving Back: The couples reveal their overarching goal of not only building wealth but also investing in and empowering people and the community. They discuss their commitment to fostering meaningful relationships and their desire to have a positive impact beyond just their business endeavors. The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is "Kenton" by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at businessofuspodcast@gmail.com to share what's on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.

Sep 26, 2024 • 42min
Running So Fast I Didn't See the Freight Train
In this episode, Rico Rodriguez discusses how, despite overcoming a difficult childhood to find entrepreneurial success, he still faced severe mental health issues affecting his life and relationships. Rico shares his journey to inspire others to seek help and remind them they're not alone. Key takeaways from today's episode: Mental health challenges can't always be controlled or overcome by willpower. Self-talk is important; be kind to yourself. Healing requires self-ownership, support, and vulnerability. Understanding ADHD's impact is essential. Entrepreneurs often hide mental health struggles behind achievement and professionalism. The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is "Kenton" by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at BusinessofUsPodcast@gmail.com to share what's on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.

Sep 5, 2024 • 46min
Don't Defer Health or Happiness
In this episode, we sit down with Brad Feld and Amy Batchelor, the authors of "The Start-Up Life," to discuss the often-overlooked challenges entrepreneurs and their partners face. They share insights on how to maintain a healthy relationship and personal well-being while navigating the demanding world of startups. From the difference between external perceptions and reality, to aligning the rhythm of business and personal life, Brad and Amy offer practical advice for founders and their loved ones to thrive together. Key takeaways from today's episode: Acknowledge the discrepancy between the glamorized image of startup life and the actual day-to-day challenges. Openly communicate and set realistic expectations with your partner. Mind the "integrity gap." Amy and Brad almost got divorced because he would say one thing but then go do another. They share how to get back in integrity with one another and restore that broken trust. Plus 1 minus 5: The math of relationships means that every positive action counts as +1 but every negative action counts as -5. We need to be mindful of all the little actions we take in our relationship to ensure that it thrives, and that is especially about the little moments of kindness and respect. Don't let the rhythms and demands of entrepreneurship override your relationship. Brad shares his commitment to always answer the phone when Amy calls, no matter what the context, along with other tactics to ensure his actions and priorities align with his commitment to Amy. The importance of investing in your personal well-being through therapy, coaching, and a commitment to self-improvement. Entrepreneurial mental health and wellness should be a priority, not an afterthought. Seek support and resources to maintain a healthy mindset. The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is "Kenton" by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at BusinessofUsPodcast@gmail.com to share what's on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.

Aug 15, 2024 • 48min
Rituals for Love and Life
In this episode, we'll explore how two entrepreneurs, who met in a spiritual and non-coincidental way, have harnessed the transformative power of choice and belief to create a life filled with intention, connection, and balance. Key takeaways from today's episode: The difference between routine and ritual is intention. We'll discuss three powerful rituals our guests have implemented, including Sunday check-ins, quarterly "love dates", and bi-monthly date nights. The transferable skill set between relationship rituals in romantic partnerships and business relationships. Our guests share how the same principles can be applied to cultivate deeper connections in both realms. The importance of non-violent communication in relational intimacy and connection and how to get unstuck, including learnings from men's groups; authenticity is not a virtue, authenticity with positive intent is a virtue. Practical suggestions on how listeners can identify the rituals that will work best for them, based on their unique needs and desires. The Business of US is brought to you by Jamie Born and Cameron Madill. Music is provided by our friends at Marmoset, and our theme song is "Kenton" by Dr Crosby. We always love hearing from our audience what you would like to listen to next; please drop us a line at BusinessofUsPodcast@gmail.com to share what's on your mind. Until the next time, we wish you the best of luck in making your relationship intentional and remarkable.


