The Zack Arnold Podcast

Sometimes to get noticed in the creative world you have to bite the bullet and take spec work (pitching or producing work that you may or may not get paid for). 50 years ago that meant pitching ideas to a large corporation (e.g. General Motors), and if they liked your ideas you won a multi-million dollar account.In today's world doing spec work is infinitely more complicated with crowdsourcing sites like 99 Designs, contests like the Doritos $1 million dollar Super Bowl commercials, and endless competition with template and stock companies that can provide entire packages for companies and individuals at affordable prices.In this episode I discuss how to navigate the ever-changing world of spec work with post-production industry veterans Walter Biscardi and Shane Ross. Whether you are a seasoned vet figuring out how to survive in our rapidly shifting industry, or you are just breaking in and can't figure out if spec work is worth it, we cover everything we can.Topics of Conversation:Using templates versus hiring a editor/designerHow to decide if doing spec work is right for youThe difference between pitching a project and creating one for freeThe changing landscape of pricing in the creative free marketWhy 99 Designs is doing business the right wayLearning to value your own workAsk yourself: "Do I retain the rights to my creative content?"What an ideal relationship between a client and creator should look likeDifficulties of breaking into the film industryDeveloping a portfolio from scratchShould you use templates or hire a designer?Tips for up-and-coming creatorsConnecting with your clients directlyEliminating the middle manUseful Links:FiP Podcast Ep56: Advancing Your Career in Post (What They Don't Teach You in Film School)FiP Podcast Ep74: When You Should Take Free Work (And When You Should Run)99 DesignsShane Ross: Little Frog in High DefWalter BiscardiGuest Bios:Walter Biscardi, Jr. is an accomplished video producer and storyteller serving a global clientele from his home base near Atlanta, Georgia. He founded his creatively driven company to bring quality video storytelling to all media driven projects. Corporate marketing & messaging, training & safety, original broadcast and web series, documentaries and feature films are some of the ways Walter and his team bring stories to life every day.Shane Ross is a freelance editor residing in Los Angeles. He has cut shows for History Channel, Discovery, National Geographic, Disney and Nickelodeon. He's an avid bicyclist, husband, and father to three amazing young ladies.Show Credits:This episode was edited by Curtis Fritsch, the show notes were prepared by Jakin Rintelman, and this show is executive produced by Kanen Flowers. We are a member of the THAT STUDIO podcast network.The music in the opening and closing of the show is courtesy of Dorian Cheah from his brilliant album ARA

In this episode Zack and Natalie answer questions submitted by listeners just like you:Learn how we use Trello in our scripted television post workflowLearn what the most effective time blocking method is to stay productive while still maintaining your creative energyLearn how to approach your supervisor for a height-adjustable workstationLearn how to deal with people in your office that don't understand (or agree with) you wanting to take quick exercise and walking breaks at workLearn additional strategies for getting more done during the daySponsors:CinemotiTopics of Conversation:What sort of break schedule is best for health and productivity?Zack and Natalie's productivity scheduleTalking to your boss about fitness in the workplaceTraining your brain to focus for longerHow to balance work, fitness, and funEffects of sleep on functionality and productivityThe importance of a night routineWhat to do if your boss catches you mid-exerciseWhy you need to get an adjustable desk and how to bargain for oneHow planning your day is essential to being productiveThe "Hit by a bus" testNeurofeedback's effects on the symptoms of ADDLearning how to prioritize and and reduce stressThe effects of "playing" on productivityZack and Natalie's Trello WorkflowTalking to your boss about workplace fitnessHow to set daily goals that boost work efficiencyUseful Links:FiP Ep10: Optimizing Brain Function with NeurofeedbackFiP Podcast Ep54: Behind the Empire Editorial WorkflowFiP Podcast Ep81: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less (And Learning How to Say No)What is Neurofeedback?Athletic GreensSubmit Questions HereThe Formula for Perfect ProductivityOptimize YourselfTrelloShow Credits:This episode was edited by Curtis Fritsch, the show notes were prepared by Jakin Rintelman, and this show is executive produced by Kanen Flowers. We are a member of the THAT STUDIO podcast network.The music in the opening and closing of the show is courtesy of Dorian Cheah from his brilliant album ARA 

Balancing any kind of personal life outside your demanding career in post-production is difficult, but when that personal life includes children, it can feel nearly impossible. Having two young kids myself (a 6 year old son and a 4 year old daughter), I know how impossible it can seem to be present as a parent while being equally focused on your job for 12+ hours every day. But there are ways to find balance and be successful with both.In this episode I have a conversation with award-nominated editor Yvette Amirian about how she became a successful television editor very quickly in her young career, but more importantly how she is balancing a demanding job, teaching several editing courses at USC, as well as raising her 5-year old son.Sponsors:CineMotiTopics of conversation:Yvette’s background as an editor and producerThe role of and editor in unscripted televisionHow Yvette made the transition into producingThe reality TV workflowYvette’s career trajectory and how she moved up the ladder so quicklyTips on how to successfully move from assistant editor to editorA few things Yvette learned in her first few years as a parentSharing the caretaking duties with family and how to get some quality time in with your childHow your perspective and priorities change when you have a childThe difficulties of missing time with your child and how to make up for itBalancing work and parentingThe importance of putting your foot down Coping with the guilt of missing out on your child’s milestonesHow being a woman with a child has affected Yvette’s career prospects (and how society judges that)How Yvette’s career aspirations changed (or didn’t) since having a childWhen your career is your identity, how do you take on another?Struggling to balance career and children is something we all deal with!Useful Links:FiP Podcast Ep48: Transitioning From Reality to ScriptedFiP Podcast Ep59: Making the Jump From Assistant Editor to EditorFiP Podcast Ep56: Advancing Your Career in Post: What They Don't Teach in Film SchoolFiP Podcast Ep74: When You Should Take Free Work (And When You Should Run)Guest Bio:Yvette Amirian is an award-nominated film and television editor, as well as a producer and writer. In addition to her work in the industry, Yvette teaches editing courses at her alma mater, USC's School of Cinematic Arts. Yvette lives in Los Angeles with her husband and 5-year old son. Show Credits:This episode was edited by Curtis Fritsch, the show notes were prepared by Natalie Boschan, and this show is executive produced by Kanen Flowers. We are a member of the THAT STUDIO podcast network.The music in the opening and closing of the show is courtesy of Dorian Cheah from his brilliant album ARA. 

Blake Calhoun isn't a celebrity director, he's not a health & wellness expert, and he's not going to drop any giant knowledge-bombs on you in this episode. He's just a hard-working filmmaker and editor doing his best to raise two kids and create cool stuff in the process.Through virtually no effort whatsoever, Blake has lost over 30 pounds (and kept it off in the last year), eradicated himself from a daily soda & junk food habit, and has the energy left after a long day to spend time with his family. If that doesn't make you a superhero in the film industry, I don't know what does.By simply following a few of the steps we talk about in this episode, you can completely change your life for the long term as Blake did, and you can do it one small step at a time.Full disclaimer: Blake is the owner of Cinemoti, one of the sponsors of this episode. If you're a filmmaker and you don't know about Cinemoti, you need to check them out. He's doing some really cool stuff.Our Sponsors:GeekDeskCineMotiTopics of Conversation:How Blake and I metBlake’s new healthy habitsWhat is simple is not always easy...Blake’s journey to better health and wellnessWhat Blake has noticed since he changed his dietThe difference between fad dieting and a lifestyle changeThe reasons why Blake decided to make this lifestyle change -- his children“You really can change your health just by what you eat”Why BMI isn’t a very good measure of healthBlake’s roadmap to better healthIt’s the little things that help!How Blake “treats” himself throughout the weekDoes food taste differently now?A little bit of soda bashing (use Coke to clean your toilet!)Blake’s tips on how to succeed in changing your lifestyleWhat CineMoti has in its library (read: not just background elements!)Use coupon code FIP15 for 15% off CineMoti!Useful links:FiP Blog Post: Sitting is Killing You, But Standing Isn't The AnswerFiP Podcast Ep36: The Primal LifestyleFiP Podcast Ep76: Why Calorie Counting Doesn't WorkFiP Podcast Ep79: How To Stay Healthy at Conventions and EventsLink: BMI calculatorAdvocareFed UpGuest Bio:Blake is founder of the 2nd Unit footage site CineMoti.com and a Texas-­based filmmaker who likes to play golf (although he never gets to). He’s also produced, directed & edited ten independent feature films and digital series including the award­winning shows Pink and Continuum, also Exposed for Warner Bros. TV and executive producer McG. And recently he teamed up with New York Times Best­Selling author Rachel Caine and Felicia Day’s Geek & Sundry entertainment network to create the digital series Morganville. In his spare time he tries to sleep (at least six hours a night).Show Credits:This episode was edited by Curtis Fritsch, the show notes were prepared by Natalie Boschan, and this show is executive produced by Kanen Flowers. We are a member of the THAT STUDIO podcast network.The music in the opening and closing of the show is courtesy of Dorian Cheah from his brilliant album ARA. 

For many in the post-production industry, traveling to conventions & events is just part of the business. Whether it's NAB in Las Vegas, Editor's Retreat, or any of the multitude of educational conferences worldwide, those conventions can be treated like paid vacations which means leaving your healthy habits at home. And if this is your choice, fantastic! More power to you. Enjoy yourself and live life.But for some people, attending large conventions like NAB can be difficult because they prefer to maintain their healthy habits so they have plenty of energy and focus to get the most out of their experience and education. But between the meet-ups, the parties, and the drinking, it can be nearly impossible to even stand upright by the final day.For those of you looking for helpful tactics and strategies to make your next convention or event a healthier one, I have an in-depth discussion with Katie Hinsen who created the #HealthyNABChallenge, taking it upon herself to make her visit to NAB this year as healthy and productive as possible. Sponsors:GeekDeskTopics of Conversation:How Katie approached me with her idea to start the #HealthyNABChallengeWhat is NAB and why is it so unhealthy?Why Katie decided she needed to change her lifestyle and be more healthyKatie’s background with Celiac Disease and the seriousness of her conditionHow difficult it is to find healthy food in Vegas and at NABNAB IS A PARTY! You can treat it as such if you want, but maybe you can be healthy while doing it….Challenge #1: Food (She and Boon-Shin tried 37 bars to prepare for NAB)The two things you need to look for when finding a meal replacement barKatie’s coffee tipsChallenge #2: Activity (and we’re not just talking steps here)How 15 minutes of yoga can make you feel refreshedKatie was even able to fit in short workouts during the busy weekend!The benefits of morning activity3 must haves for traveling to events like NAB: melatonin patch, exercise & water Challenge #3: Alcohol (How to cut back without looking totally lame)Pacing your alcohol consumptionHow having a defined purpose helped Katie succeedHow to get out of a slump when you lose your motivationIt’s better to get started than to think about everything you’re not doing! So just start!Useful Links:Blue Collar Post CollectiveFiP Blog Post: Is It Possible To Stay Healthy At NAB? Let's Find Out...Yoga gloves & yoga socksShakeologyGuest Bio:Originally from New Zealand, Katie Hinsen is a New York­based, award­winning Finishing Artist with credits on over 80 major productions. Over her 18­year career she has worked as an engineer, editor, VFX artist, Stereoscopic 3D artist, colorist and finishing artist; on commercials, documentaries, television, music videos, short and feature films. Outside of the office she is a passionate advocate for emerging talent, providing mentorship and serving at the Executive level of a number of industry­based non­profit organizations including Gaia Community Initiatives and the One Voice project in New Zealand, and the Blue Collar Post Collective in New YorkKatie Hinsen on Twitter: @katiehinsenShow Credits:This episode was edited by Curtis Fritsch, the show notes were prepared by Natalie Boschan, and this show is executive produced by Kanen Flowers. We are a member of the THAT STUDIO podcast network.The music in the opening and closing of the show is courtesy of Dorian Cheah from his brilliant album ARA. 

It's so easy to get distracted by the latest "shiny object," and the latest tips & tactics for how to get healthy or even to get ahead in your career. But sometimes you have to take a step back from all the noise and start thinking about your strategies, whether you're dealing with your health, your career, or your whole life.In this episode I have an in-depth conversation with unscripted editor and author Jeff Bartsch about the moment he realized his paycheck wasn't enough to justify his brutal lifestyle editing hit TV shows, and what he has done since that moment to change his work schedule and his outlook on life.Our show sponsors:GeekDeskCineMotiTopics of Conversation:How Jeff worked so hard that he ended up in the emergency roomThe price tag Jeff would put on his healthYou need to regulate your hours and pay, not an external force (read: the world will not fix your problems)Tactics vs. strategiesHow Jeff brings the human aspect into his workWhy American Ninja Warrior is so popular (hint: it’s not just the obstacles) “The things behind the thing”Being a good editor doesn’t just come “naturally” --you’ve got to PUT IN THE WORK ← Talent is overratedThe quality of a project and the people you work with really mattersJeff’s article about choosing the right projectWhy Jeff decided to get healthyStop counting calories! It won’t make you skinny! Jeff’s personal push up challengeYou don’t have to do it all at once, you just have to startWhat you measure, you can improve upon (yes, I talk about this again--CAUSE IT WORKS)If you don’t know why you want to do something, it makes it harder to do that thing“You can accomplish great physical things without being an elite athlete”Useful Links:The Power EditThe Power Edit Facebook GroupEdit Better: Hollywood-Tested Strategies for Powerful Video EditingFiP Podcast Ep60: Walter Murch on Surviving 50+ Years in PostIn the Blink of An Eye by Walter MurchFiP Podcast Ep57: Advancing Your Career in PostWhy We Get FatGuest Bio:Jeff Bartsch built his career in Hollywood as an editor of unscripted content for ABC, NBC, Universal, Disney, ESPN, MTV, and many others. His commentary on editing and the entertainment industry have been featured in multiple textbooks, The Associated Press, USA Today, and Time Magazine. He is the author of Edit Better: Hollywood-Tested Strategies for Powerful Video Editing, and is the founder of ThePowerEdit.com, which serves professional and amateur video editors in over 40 countries across 6 continents. Jeff lives in Los Angeles with his wife, son, and their German Shepherd named Saint.Show Credits:This episode was edited by Curtis Fritsch, the show notes were prepared by Natalie Boschan, and this show is executive produced by Kanen Flowers. We are a member of the THAT STUDIO podcast network.The music in the opening and closing of the show is courtesy of Dorian Cheah from his brilliant album ARA. 

"Eat less and exercise more" is the diet advice we've all been following for the last 50 years, but I have bad news for you...science has proven that calorie counting doesn't work 95.4% of the time. Our bodies have evolved for thousands of years to naturally balance energy input (eating) and expenditure (activity). So then why is that only AFTER discovering the concept of the calorie have we begun to see the epidemic rise of obesity worldwide in developed countries?In this episode I have a rapid-fire conversation with New York Times bestselling author Jonathan Bailor, author of "The Calorie Myth" and one of the foremost experts in the health industry on the concept of the calorie. We talk all about the diet myths we've been fed for the last fifty years and why they are wrong. And then we talk about the solution to reshaping your diet if what you desire is long term health, energy, and longevity.Our show sponsors:GeekDesk.com CineMoti.comTopics of Conversation:First up: we shouldn’t be counting calories!Your body automatically regulates energy balance, HOWEVER this breaks down when you don’t eat the right stuffWhen you don’t eat the right stuff, your body stops automatically regulating and the result is diseaseThere are plenty of quick fixes for rapid, short term weight loss but they won’t work for long term health goals (for example: starvation dieting)There’s science to back all this up!Every single scientific study on “calories in vs. calories out” has proved that counting calories does not work. Every. Single. One.Why the calorie counting processes Jenny Craig and Weight Watchers utilize don’t workHow does the S.A.N.E. Solution work?Water, fiber and protein -- your three key factors to a more SANE dietWhat are isocaloric studies and what do they prove?Why fat isn’t the enemyCommon Sense Simplicity -- go to Sanesolution.com and click on “Free Blueprint”What to eat to heal your metabolism, reduce risk of disease and reprogram your body to burn fatThere is a live seminar you can watch for FREE Useful Links:sanesolution.comThe Calorie MythGuest Bio:Jonathan Bailor is a New York Times bestselling author and internationally recognized wellness expert who specializes in using modern science and technology to simplify health. Bailor has collaborated with top scientists for more than 10 years to analyze and apply over 1,300 studies. His work has been endorsed by top doctors and scientists from Harvard Medical School, Johns’ Hopkins, The Mayo Clinic, The Cleveland Clinic, and UCLA.Bailor is the founder of SANESolution.com and serves as the CEO for the wellness technology company Yopti®. He authored the New York Times and USA Today bestselling book The Calorie Myth, hosts a popular syndicated health radio show The SANE Show, and blogs on The Huffington Post. Additionally, Bailor has registered over 25 patents, spoken at Fortune 100 companies and TED conferences for over a decade, and served as a Senior Program Manager at Microsoft where he helped create Nike+ Kinect Training and XBox Fitness.Show Credits:This episode was edited by Curtis Fritsch, the show notes were prepared by Natalie Boschan, and this show is executive produced by Kanen Flowers. We are a member of the THAT STUDIO podcast network.The music in the opening and closing of the show is courtesy of Dorian Cheah from his brilliant album ARA. 

Anyone working long hours in a creative industry craves mental stamina and focus. We'd all give anything for the drug Bradley Cooper used to transform himself in the film 'Limitless.' With the recent surge in popularity of smart drugs and nootropics, has the 'Limitless' era finally arrived?In this episode I have an in-depth conversation with Dr. Andrew Hill, a PhD in neuroscience and the lead neuroscientist for the company TruBrain* that manufacturers several different forms of nootropics substances that enhance clarity, focus, memory, and cognitive function.We discuss the difference between smart drugs and nootropics, which are safe and which aren't, how you can enhance the effects of coffee, and which substances are the best bang for your buck when it comes to enhancing the capabilities of your brain. (Hint: None of them begin with '5 Hour Energy')* Use the coupon code 'FITNESS' to get 25% OFF your first order at TruBrain.Topics of Conversation:Andrew’s background and how he got started with truBrain The research they are doing at truBrain and how to apply it to our everyday livesHow brain waves work -- it’s “complicated and chaotic”How to read brain waves (cause they’re measurable)Two of the most common smart drugs: caffeine and nicotineMake sure you are being safe when adopting a cognitive enhancer like caffeineHow L-Theanine combined with caffeine can help improve focusWhat alcohol does to your brain wavesOther smart drugs and what they do to brain wavesWhat modafinil is used for (and why it can be dangerous)Andrew’s modafinil scare and who should not take itWhat acetylcholine does to your brainHow nootropics work and how you should take themWhat is truBrain and how can creative people use it?truBrain has their own coffee!The effects of eating glucose while using nootropicsThe ingredients in truBrain and how they workThe difference between the neurons in the brain and the neurons in the heartThe elevator pitch for truBrainMore technology = more distractions! Get it under control NOWUseful Links:TruBrain HomeFiP Podcast: The Science of ADD and ADHDFiP Podcast: Optimizing Brain Function with NeurofeedbackFiP Blog: What is Neurofeedback?Guest Bio:Dr. Hill received his PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience from UCLA in 2012, studying how attention operates in the brain. He is currently lecturing for the Undergraduate Education Initiatives program at UCLA, teaching a course sequence gerontology, and the neuroscience of healthy brain aging. Dr. Hill has published chapters on measuring and modulating human attention, and continues to research self regulation. Prior to UCLA, Dr. Hill obtained extensive experience working with both psychiatric and developmental populations as well as gaining experience in high technology areas. He received his B.S. in Psychology/Neuroscience from UMass Amherst. See Andrew’s book chapters Measuring & Modulating Hemispheric Attention and EEG Correlates of Hemispheric Word Recognition.Show Credits:This episode was edited by Curtis Fritsch, the show notes were prepared by Natalie Boschan, and this show is executive produced by Kanen Flowers. We are a member of the THAT STUDIO podcast network.The music in the opening and closing of the show is courtesy of Dorian Cheah from his brilliant album ARA.

Colorist Marc Wielage exercised 3-4 days a week, had a 32" waist, and was told by all his colleagues and friends that he was "the healthiest person I know" for being age 60. Yet one day he suddenly endured 3 heart attacks in the period of 24 hours. How could this have happened to someone so seemingly healthy?At first glance it appeared to be a fluke, but after further investigation, the cause seemed painfully clear: Marc's sedentary and brutally stressful lifestyle very predictably led him down this path. In this episode we talk about the lifestyle choices that Marc made that may have caused his heart attacks, and more importantly we talk about the changes he's making now (and the further steps he can take) to prevent future health problems.If you sit for more than 6 hours a day but think, "This will never happen to me," you need to listen to Marc's story. Because he thought it could never happen to him too.Our show sponsors:EditStock.comCineMoti.comTopics of Conversation:Marc’s background as a coloristHow color correction has changed over the last 30 years Marc’s personal health storyWhat happened the day Marc had his heart attackMarc's test results and physical activity gave no indication he was at risk for a heart attack How Marc’s sedentary, workaholic lifestyle contributed to his kidney problemsWe are not as infallible as we think we are!Being skinny and working out doesn’t mean you are healthyMarc’s heart was ok but his veins and arteries weren’t working properlyHow Marc could workout 60-90 minutes, 3 days per week and STILL be unhealthyMarc’s dietary choicesA poor man’s “speedball” -- Marc’s crazy caffeine and sugar intake before his heart attackWhy are you so tired after sitting all day??Why exercise isn’t enough to combat a sedentary lifestyleTaking breaks and walking more can help improve your work and quality of lifeHow Marc used to consider a 10-12 hour marathon color session (with no breaks) a badge of honorWhy powering through a 14 hour day, hopped up on caffeine and sugar is a terrible ideaWork smarter, not harder--it’s not about how many hours you sit in the chair, it’s about the quality of your workWhat Marc would have changed about his life 20 years agoThe adrenaline rush of stressHow do you find a balance between your work life, personal life and your health?Marc’s thoughts when he was confronted with deathUseful Links:www.colorbymarc.comGuest Bio:Marc Wielage has been a digital colorist in Hollywood for more than 30 years, working for Complete Post, Technicolor, Modern Videofilm, and numerous other post-production houses. His hobbies include film & TV history, music, and fiction. Wielage has a been a Macintosh user since 1985 and has fought valiantly with a variety of computers and operating systems since 1980. In addition to working as a colorist, he also has written for several dozen magazines as West coast editor and contributing editor, including Video Review, Consumers Digest, High Fidelity, and many others.Show Credits:This episode was edited by Curtis Fritsch, the show notes were prepared by Natalie Boschan, and this show is executive produced by Kanen Flowers. We are a member of the THAT STUDIO podcast network.The music in the opening and closing of the show is courtesy of Dorian Cheah from his brilliant album ARA.

Training for and successfully running a marathon is an accomplishment few will ever achieve. Running a marathon in under 4 hours? Fewer people still. But training for a marathon, running it in under 4 hours, and ALSO working as an assistant editor on the TV series Empire? That's downright insanity!Or is it?In this episode I have a candid in-person conversation with Natalie Boschan, my assistant editor and partner in crime, about why she chose to take on this monumental task, and more importantly how it helped her grow stronger as a human being.Our show sponsors:EditStock.comTopics of Conversation:Why Natalie decided to run a marathonWhat it was like training for a marathon while working on EmpireRunning in the morning DOES NOT undo the effects of an unhealthy lifestyleHow Natalie got injured training for her first marathon in 2013When Natalie decided she would no longer be defined by her workNatalie’s morning routine and why she decided she wanted to be, for the first time in her life, a morning personTaking back your schedule and taking ownership of your timeHow Natalie found reasons to wake up and train every day by clearly defining her whyHow taking back your time can be empoweringHow being less reactionary to your surroundings can help you generate energy and be a more pleasant personNatalie’s systems for getting more sh*t done faster!How to combat that “tired” feeling when you don’t think you should be tiredHow focused work can actually make work more fun!Natalie’s training program ← Link: RunSmart programHow tracking your time can really open your eyes to your own productivityThe brain is not capable of multitasking!Switching tasks (read: going from Facebook to Gchat to Avid) is what makes you tired!Making small changes can lead to some extraordinary results over a long enough timelineNatalie’s marathon time and how she actually made it through the raceAny goal is attainable!Useful Links:FiP Podcast Ep54: Behind the Empire Editorial WorkflowFiP Blog Post: The Endless Chase For Work/Life BalanceFiP Podcast Ep66: How to Systematize Meal PlanningFiP Podcast Ep63: The Solution To Your Sedentary LifestyleBeachbody T25 Workout DVDsTrelloTogglYogis Anonymous BreakTimeRescueTime Guest BioNatalie Boschan has been working as a post production professional for eight years. She began her career working as a producer/editor creating content for Verizon's V-cast (think: internet content before the iPhone). She continued her career in short form media by working as an editor on web and DVD featurettes, trailers and promotional videos for various major motion picture releases as well as independent films. In 2013 Natalie decided to shift gears and venture into the land of scripted television. Currently, she is working on a new Netflix drama set to air in late December. Her past credits include: Empire seasons 1 & 2, Underground, Burn Notice and Once Upon a Time.Show Credits:This episode was edited by Curtis Fritsch, the show notes were prepared by Natalie Boschan, and this show is executive produced by Kanen Flowers. We are a member of the THAT STUDIO podcast network.The music in the opening and closing of the show is courtesy of Dorian Cheah from his brilliant album ARA.