The Corner Series

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Jun 3, 2025 • 21min

Episode 97: How One Orthopedic Platform Defies Today's Market Headwinds, with Grady Wilson

"We're in the best spot from a capital standpoint since I've been with this organization," says Grady Wilson, chief development officer at Varsity-backed Orthopedic Care Partners (OCP). In this conversation with host Geoff Cockrell, Grady discusses how their recent $185 million Brookfield investment positions them for aggressive growth despite challenging market conditions. Drawing from his experience growing OCP to 150 physicians across five states, Grady shares insights about physician recruitment strategies, value-based care opportunities, and the untapped potential in mid-sized markets. He also reveals how OCP’s compensation model creates alignment at local and organization-wide levels to drive success in today's orthopedic landscape.Connect and Learn More☑️ Grady Wilson | LinkedIn☑️ Orthopedic Care Partners | LinkedIn☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicThis podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.
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May 29, 2025 • 19min

Episode 96: The Joint Venture Model Revolutionizing DSOs, with Justin Puckett

"If you don't have a proper alignment model,” cautions MB2 Dental President Justin Puckett, “it's really hard to win in this game." Speaking with McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell, Justin explains why most dental service organizations (DSOs) struggle with provider retention and growth.He also unveils MB2’s groundbreaking joint venture approach in which dentists maintain local ownership while receiving monthly distributions — a model that has propelled them to nearly 800 practices nationwide. Tune in for insights about the future of large DSOs, acquisition strategies and how MB2's pioneering approach reshapes the dental industry landscape.Connect and Learn More☑️ Justin Puckett | LinkedIn☑️ MB2 Dental | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | TikTok☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicThis podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.
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May 27, 2025 • 28min

Episode 95: The Real Truth about PE in Healthcare, With Lauren Makhoul

A principal in the financial services practice at Avalere Health, Lauren Makhoul challenges prevailing narratives about institutional capital. “Private equity investment in healthcare reduces Medicare expenditures by almost $1,000 per beneficiary,” she explains to McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell and partner Alyssa Campbell.Avalere does buy-side, regulatory and reimbursement due diligence for PE sponsors investing across healthcare. Tune in for insights into how capital investment enables struggling practices to survive, provides expansion opportunities without personal guarantees and creates the scale necessary for value-based care participation.Connect and Learn More☑️ Lauren Makhoul | LinkedIn☑️ Avalere Health | LinkedIn☑️ Alyssa Campbell | LinkedIn☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicThis podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.
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May 21, 2025 • 23min

Episode 94: What Are Healthcare Investment Packs Pursuing? With Matt Searles and Bart Walker

Investors, as Bart Walker likes to say, “tend to run in packs.” The co-chair of McGuireWoods' healthcare industry team, Bart describes the current “pack” running not so much toward value-based care but rather toward “some risk element, something more interesting than just traditional fee-for-service.” In this conversation with host Geoff Cockrell, Bart and Matt Searles from Merritt Healthcare explore the slowdown from previous market peaks. But they also highlight opportunities in consumer-focused segments. Tune in for their insights about trends in regulatory scrutiny, artificial intelligence, and joint ventures.Connect and Learn More☑️ Matt Searles | LinkedIn☑️ Merritt Healthcare | LinkedIn☑️ Bart Walker | LinkedIn☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicThis podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.
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May 12, 2025 • 28min

Episode 93: The Compensation Mistake PPM Investors Regret, With John Tiedmann

"The key to successful physician practice management is self-control on the sell-side and being reasonable about compensation," observes John Tiedmann, a managing director at Physician Growth Partners, in this conversation with host Geoff Cockrell. With over 70 deals across various medical specialties, John describes how PPM investments have evolved from pure growth to facing challenges in physician alignment and compensation structures.The discussion highlights emerging pharmaceutical distributors as strategic buyers for large platforms and explores how compensation models are adapting to ensure sustainable practices. Despite recent headwinds, he remains bullish on the sector's future as platforms correct alignment issues and valuation expectations normalize.Connect and Learn More☑️ John Tiedmann | LinkedIn☑️ Physician Growth Partners | LinkedIn☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicThis podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.
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May 8, 2025 • 24min

Episode 92: Winning the Insurance Game in Healthcare Transactions, With Hannah Ellithorpe

“Underwriters are more willing to take creative approaches now than they would have been in the last couple of years,” observes Hannah Ellithorpe, executive director and head of healthcare and life sciences at Atlantic Global Risk. The former M&A attorney shares with McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell how the representation and warranty insurance market has evolved toward more flexible coverage terms at lower costs.Hannah details how softening market conditions have created opportunities to secure previously unattainable regulatory compliance coverage and discusses emerging products specifically designed for healthcare providers serving vulnerable populations.Connect and Learn More☑️ Hannah Ellithorpe | LinkedIn☑️ Atlantic Global Risk LLC | LinkedIn☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicThis podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.
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May 1, 2025 • 22min

Episode 91: Can AI Level the Playing Field in Dental Marketing? With Ryan Torresan

“The hot topic right now is how AI fits into dental marketing,” says Ryan Torresan, chief marketing officer at Peak Dental Services. With 14 years of experience across multiple dental service organizations (DSOs), Ryan predicts AI will be a market “leveler” that benefits large and small practices while blurring traditional lines between marketing and operations functions.Tune in for his insights about new markets, creating efficient lead generation systems and measuring marketing success with McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell.Connect and Learn More☑️ Ryan Torresan | LinkedIn☑️ Peak Dental Services | LinkedIn | Facebook☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicThis podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.
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Apr 25, 2025 • 23min

Episode 90: Investment Opportunities in Behavioral Health, With Adam Abramowitz

The behavioral health sector encompasses segments from substance abuse treatment to autism therapy — a breadth of opportunity that Adam Abramowitz, managing director at Intrepid Investment Bankers, explores with McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell. Adam details how reduced stigma and increased reimbursements are driving significant market growth, particularly in underserved rural areas.While discussing industry evolution, he notes a critical shift from out-of-network to in-network insurance strategies driven by institutional investors. Despite considerable private equity activity, he characterizes the market as being in the “middle innings” of consolidation, with substantial unmet demand creating compelling investment cases for mission-driven providers who can deliver care where access is limited.Connect and Learn More☑️ Adam Abramowitz | LinkedIn☑️ Intrepid | LinkedIn | X☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicThis podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.
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Apr 23, 2025 • 21min

Preparing a Compliance Plan, With Garen Marshall

McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell welcomes Garen Marshall from the Government Investigations & White Collar Litigation Group to discuss how healthcare companies should prepare for potential government investigations.Drawing from his experience as a former federal prosecutor, Garen outlines critical steps healthcare organizations should take before law enforcement contact occurs, including establishing document management practices, developing crisis response protocols and engaging experienced outside counsel.He provides practical guidance on navigating the delicate balance between cooperation and overextending consent during searches and explains how properly handling subpoenas and search warrants can significantly impact investigation outcomes.Connect and Learn More☑️ Garen Marshall | LinkedIn☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicThis podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.
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Apr 22, 2025 • 22min

Has the Reset Really Hurt Healthcare M&A? With Diwakar Sinha

Pointing to renewed optimism in healthcare transactions, Diwakar Sinha suggests that “2025 looks very promising and should be a very successful year in the M&A space.” As founder and CEO of Polaris Healthcare Partners, Diwakar shares insights on the current landscape in which regional platforms with $2 to $5 million EBITDA are increasingly coming to market. His conversation with McGuireWoods partner and host Geoff Cockrell covers the effects of changing capital costs on deal structures, the emergence of new buyer expectations and the reconciliation of seller valuations post-pandemic.Connect and Learn More☑️ Diwakar Sinha | LinkedIn☑️ Polaris Healthcare Partners | LinkedIn | YouTube☑️ Geoff Cockrell | LinkedIn☑️ McGuireWoods | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X☑️ Subscribe Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Amazon MusicThis podcast was recorded and is being made available by McGuireWoods for informational purposes only. By accessing this podcast, you acknowledge that McGuireWoods makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in the podcast. The views, information, or opinions expressed during this podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved and do not necessarily reflect those of McGuireWoods. This podcast should not be used as a substitute for competent legal advice from a licensed professional attorney in your state and should not be construed as an offer to make or consider any investment or course of action.

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