The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy

Curt and Katie talk with Tiffany McLain about the difficulty therapists have in charging enough to make a living, how ignoring money means you’re missing stuff in the clinical work, and ideas on how to shift your mindset to make bank.It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when therapists must develop a personal brand to market their practices.To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.Interview with Tiffany McLain, LMFTTiffany McLain, MFT is a therapist & consultant whose mantra is, “Full fees are the new black.” Via her business, www.heytiffany.com, she helps therapists in private practice overcome their shame about marketing and making bank so they can help the clients they are truly passionate about serving. She’s been featured in Psychology Today Magazine, Psych Central, Huffington Post, KGO Radio, SF Weekly and Forbes.In this episode we talk about: The reasons that therapists have such a hard time charging for therapy How therapists being upwardly mobile can impact their money issues How many therapists are often marginalized and upwardly mobile, which can impact our tendency to sacrifice ourselves and put ourselves into the role of martyr The zero-sum game that a lot of people think is true (but really is not) Working through your money story and your identity around money Shifting your mindset around money Why we have a difficult time charging full fee The culture of shame regarding talking about money Money as a symbol of reality and of death When clinicians are not addressing money stuff they are missing stuff in the clinical work The danger of pretending that we don’t have needs, limitations, etc. and how that leads to unrealistic expectations for the clinician How to give back and still make the living that you want Why not everyone needs to go into private practice Tiffany’s story of not fitting in and creating her own tribe How she navigated having a strong brand in her coaching while doing psychoanalytic work in her therapy practice How Tiffany works with therapy and coaching clients How therapists get in their own way – getting their fees wrong, not leaning in  Resources mentioned:We’ve pulled together any resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links.Tiffany’s Program: Lean in Make BankFun with Fees CalculatorProfit First by Mike MichalowiczOur Next Event:The Therapy Reimagined Conference in Los Angeles in October 2018!!Our consultation services:The Fifty-Minute HourCredits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/

Curt and Katie talk about people who yell “That’s Unethical” whenever they disagree with what someone else is doing. It could be ethics, but it might actually be legal, clinically relevance, values, morals, what “should” be done or what has always been done – and how to navigate messy decisions.It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.In this episode we talk about: The tendency of people to yell "That's Unethical!" when they disagree with what you're doing (even if it doesn't relate to an ethic) The differences between laws, ethics, clinically relevance, personal morals and values, and “shoulds” or what we’ve always done #citethestatute Being thoughtful about how we make decisions as a therapist Emotional versus wise mind arguments The messiness of reality – things don’t always stack up related to laws, ethics, clinical relevance, etc. The need to discuss these things, so we can make change when needed How to sort through the muddiness of real world scenarios where laws, ethics, and clinical interventions don’t line up. The need to sort through in a case by case basis Developmental stages of navigating the complexity of these differentiations Your own values, limitations The importance of consultation Facebook group consultation – pros and cons Seeking consultation on ethical, legal, and clinical complexity  Resources mentioned:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links.Dr. Ben Caldwell with Ben Caldwell LabsOther Relevant Episodes:Dual RelationshipsDating as a Therapist Social Media and Video Marketing for TherapistsManaging Your Online ReputationHow Much is Too Much? (on limit setting, talking politics with clients, etc.)The Brand Called YouWhat Clients Want (on the therapeutic relationship)Our Take on Texts Our event this year:The Therapy Reimagined Conference in Los Angeles in October 2018!!Our new consultation services:The Fifty-Minute HourCredits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/

An interview with Marc Sadoff, LCSW, about what therapists can do to support refugees seeking asylum in the United States. We talk about the qualifications therapists need to engage in the asylum evaluation process.It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when therapists must develop a personal brand to market their practices.To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.Interview with Marc Sadoff, LCSW Marc Sadoff, LCSW was licensed in 1985 and worked with the Program for Torture Victims Los Angeles from 1997 to 2001. Marc and his colleagues did psychological and medical evaluations to corroborate claims of torture for asylum seekers. In 2000, they presented a half-day workshop for Immigration Asylum Officers on the topic of credibility. They were acknowledged as contributors to a book edited by the Physicians for Human Rights called "A Health Professional’s Guide to Medical And Psychological Evaluations Of Torture" published in 2001. Marc has submitted over 100 psychological evaluations for immigration cases, and has been accepted as an ‘expert in traumatic stress’, 60 of the 60 times that he’s testified in court. Marc’s goal in providing training on asylum is to expand the pool of clinicians who can begin doing pro bono and low fee psychological evaluations for those fleeing injustice and terror. You can learn more about Marc here: www.realhope.comIn this episode we talk about: Marc’s entry into treating torture and asylum victims The difference between asylum evaluations and treatment What the asylum process looks like from asylee perspective and the clinician perspective The years long process that is asylum seeking, leading to communities requiring sponsorship while waiting for the process to be completed The clinician’s experience in the asylum process What is required to complete evaluations for asylum, looking at the practical steps to completing the report Qualifications for therapists completing asylum evaluations The current state of immigration and how it has impacted Marc’s practice, his personal takes on it The plight of unaccompanied minors who cross the border How therapists can get involved, as a citizen, as a clinician, as an asylum evaluator How therapists and social workers need to be cautious about what they present related to interviews outside of asylum evaluations Resources mentioned:We’ve pulled together any resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links.Marc’s 7 hour course - Webinar on Asylum Evaluations: RealHope.com/webinar-training/Marc’s information:www.RealHope.com/webinar-training/ For info regarding the September training.Email: Marc@RealHope.comTwitter: @MarcSadoffIF YOU’D LIKE THE EXTENSIVE RESOURCES THAT MARC PROVIDED US, PLEASE SEND US A QUICK EMAIL AND WE CAN FORWARD THE MULTI-PAGE DOCUMENT TO YOU: podcast@therapyreimagined.comProfessional Organization Statements: APA NASW CAMFTAAMFTAmerica Academy of PediatricsChild’s World America Petition Diane Feinstein’s Bill: Keep Families Together Act Action Alert from Southern Poverty Law CenterRAICES Immigration Resources:https://www.psychologicalevaluationsforimmigrationcourt.net/blog/ IF YOU’D LIKE THE EXTENSIVE RESOURCES THAT MARC PROVIDED US (INCLUDING THE ONE ABOVE), PLEASE SEND US A QUICK EMAIL AND WE CAN FORWARD THE MULTI-PAGE DOCUMENT TO YOU: podcast@therapyreimagined.com Our Next Event:The Therapy Reimagined Conference in Los Angeles in October 2018!!Our new consultation services:The Fifty-Minute HourCredits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/

An interview with Alison Fussell, LMFT, Co-Founder of Advekit, about making her dream of stronger, more accurate referrals a reality through the responsive algorithm on her online platform. Looking at the platform, the vision, and the ups and downs of being a startup.It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when therapists must develop a personal brand to market their practices.To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.Interview with Alison Fussell, LMFTAlison Fussell is a LMFT and Co-Founder of Advekit - the modern marketing platform for therapists in Southern California. Alison was born and raised in Los Angeles and attended UCLA (Bachelors) and Pepperdine University (Masters). She practiced in a clinical setting for 6 years before starting her company, Advekit. The impetus for Advekit was to bridge the gap between therapists seeking new clients, and clients seeking the right suited therapists per their needs. Alison and her co-founder, Arielle, realized that there was a strong need for an effective platform for both groups to connect, as this concept was lacking in the space. In addition to their matching platform, the Advekit team plans to enhance the therapist and client experience from end to end, with the goal of implementing new tools on the platform and scaling into major cities within the US.In this episode we talk about: Alison’s story Identifying the gap in saturated markets, to help people narrow down and find the right therapist Shifting from your clinical practice to a “side” business The struggles of starting a business Increasing accuracy of referrals Creating an algorithm to improve matches within Advekit Accurately portraying yourself to get better referrals, being specific How you can shoot yourself in the foot when you check off too many boxes on online profiles Leveraging your clinical skills in other areas in business Creating a business partnership with complimentary skillsets Moving from vision to reality Finding the right steps to move forward What you need to know about business to move a big idea forward Reading books and learning on your own Taking risks Finding opportunities beyond clinical work Resources mentioned:We’ve pulled together any resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links.AdvekitSpecial Advekit promo code for our listeners: “summer2018” – This will give you 10% off the annual package (normally $270, but for you it will be $243). Enter this code in as you fill out your profile on Advekit. Relevant MTSG Podcast Episodes:Referrals Done RightThe Brand Called YouOur Next Event:The Therapy Reimagined Conference in Los Angeles in October 2018!!Our new consultation services:The Fifty-Minute HourCredits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/

Curt and Katie talk about ineffective and shady marketing practices that are completely ineffective and bad for your brand.It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.In this episode we talk about: Laws and best practices related to email marketing The benefit of opt-in and permission marketing List building while providing positive content to the people who have subscribed or opted in Frequency and quality of emails Technological advances that help you send information only to the people who want it Segmented lists: client facing, referral sources, topics, events, etc. The what’s and how’s of the unsubscribe button Unsolicited texts during the election The danger of holding people hostage in any form (in person networking, texting, phone, email) Visibility is not the only goal of marketing Facebook interactions that are not so cool Treating people as a number on a mailing list, a like for a FB page, etc. Excessively marketing – fear based or obsession-based conversations The huge problem of not being able to unsubscribe The dangers of burning out your referral sources with unsolicited emails Creating engaging content Marketing strategy for different platforms Resources mentioned:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links. Permission Marketing by Seth Godin Can-Spam RuleGDPROther Relevant Episodes:The Brand Called You The Dividing Line Between Coaching and TherapyOur event this year:The Therapy Reimagined Conference in Los Angeles in October 2018!!Our new consultation services:The Fifty-Minute HourWho we are:Curt Widhalm is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist in private practice in the Los Angeles area. He is a Board Member at Large for the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists, a Subject Matter Expert for the California Board of Behavioral Sciences, Adjunct Faculty at Pepperdine University, and a loving husband and father. He is 1/2 great person, 1/2 provocateur, and 1/2 geek, in that order. He dabbles in the dark art of making "dad jokes" and usually has a half-empty cup of coffee somewhere nearby. Learn more at: www.curtwidhalm.comKatie Vernoy is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, coach, and consultant. As a helping professional for two decades, she’s navigated the ups and downs of our unique line of work. She’s run her own solo therapy practice, designed innovative clinical programs, built and managed large, thriving teams of service providers, and consulted hundreds of helping professionals on how to build meaningful AND sustainable practices. In her spare time, Katie is secretly siphoning off Curt's youthful energy, so that she can take over the world. Learn more at: www.katievernoy.comA Quick Note:Our opinions are our own. We are only speaking for ourselves – except when we speak for each other, or over each other. We’re working on it.Our guests are also only speaking for themselves and have their own opinions. We aren’t trying to take their voice, and no one speaks for us either. Mostly because they don’t want to, but hey. Stay in Touch:www.mtsgpodcast.comwww.therapyreimagined.comOur Facebook Group – The Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Grouphttps://www.facebook.com/therapyreimagined/https://twitter.com/therapymovementhttps://www.instagram.com/therapyreimagined/ Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/

An interview with Robyn Goldberg, RDN, CEDRD, on what all therapists should know about nutrition, disordered eating, and eating disorders, as well as their own biases and relationship with foodIt’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when therapists must develop a personal brand to market their practices.To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.Interview with Robyn Goldberg, RDN, CEDRDRobyn L. Goldberg, RDN, CEDRD, began her career at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles as the in-patient dietitian in the Department of Cardiology. Over the last 21 years she has developed her own private practice in Beverly Hills, CA, where she specializes in medical conditions, disordered eating, eating disorders, Health at Every Size, intuitive eating and pre-pregnancy nutrition. Robyn promotes opportunity to excel in developing a new perspective with food in association with several medical groups. She serves as a Nutrition Consultant for the Celiac Disease Foundation. For the last eight years Robyn was the Nutritional Therapist for the Susan Krevoy Eating Disorders Program at Wright Institute Los Angeles was a consultant for Panda Restaurant Group and teaches the nutrition classes for the Motion Picture Wellness Program. Currently Robyn is the Director of Nutrition Service for The Control Center, an addiction IOP, where she sees all the eating disorder patients. She is a contributing author and is a nationally known registered dietitian nutritionist. She has been quoted in The New York Times, The Huffington Post, The Fix, Shape Magazine, Fitness, Oxygen, Pilates Style, Diabetes Forecast, BH Weekly and Life & Style. She has been on national television as the eating disorder expert on The Insider.  Robyn has a body image and eating disorder group at several addiction centers in Los Angeles.Learn more about Robyn at www.askaboutfood.com.In this episode we talk about: Diet Culture HAES: Health at Every Size Food freedom Collaboration between therapists and dietitians Treating eating disorders and disordered eating What to look for in the intake process Looking at your own belief system and bias around “fat” and “thin” Why you can't make assumptions about your clients based on what they look like When to worry about eating patterns of your clients Orthorexia, Anorexia, Bulimia, Restricting, Binging Moving away from the idea that there is a “right weight” What therapists often miss related to eating How to find experts who work with Eating Disorders (what the qualifications are, what the dangers are when you work outside of your scope) Who needs to be on the team to treating EDs. Medical considerations and labs to request How little most people know about how to screen for eating disorders The differences between Registered Dietitian Nutritionist, Licensed Dietitians, Nutritionists, Health Coaches Resources mentioned:We’ve pulled together any resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links.Robyn’s Website: www.askaboutfood.comInstagram: RobynGoldbergRDNAcademy of Eating Disorders: www.aedweb.orgInternational Association of Eating Disorder Professionals: IAEDPCertifications for Eating Disorder Specialties (CEDRD, CEDS, etc.)Medical Care Standards Guide - Eating Disorders: Critical Points for Early Recognition and Medical Risk Management in the Care of Individuals with Eating Disorders Certification in Intuitive EatingRelevant MTSG Podcast Episodes:Are You Sure You’re a SpecialistOur Next Event:The Therapy Reimagined Conference in Los Angeles in October 2018!!Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/

Curt and Katie talk about the therapeutic alliance - challenges of defining it, what clients think about it, and how to incorporate best practices.It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.In this episode we talk about: The definition of therapeutic alliance and the difficult we have in practically defining it What actually matters to clients, that makes up the therapeutic relationship Validating the client’s experience Looking at the client as a whole person Therapist honesty Showing good boundaries Normalizing the client’s experience Making eye contact with our clients Body language, who we present ourselves Clients feeling heard and respected The challenge of getting accurate feedback from clients How to incorporate best practices Resources mentioned:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links.Bedi and Duff Study on Therapeutic Relationship: Client as ExpertScott MillerOur new consultation services: The Fifty-Minute HourOther Episodes Mentioned:The Brand Called YouOur events this year:The Therapy Reimagined Conference in Los Angeles in October 2018!! Who we are:Curt Widhalm is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist in private practice in the Los Angeles area. He is a Board Member at Large for the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists, a Subject Matter Expert for the California Board of Behavioral Sciences, Adjunct Faculty at Pepperdine University, and a loving husband and father. He is 1/2 great person, 1/2 provocateur, and 1/2 geek, in that order. He dabbles in the dark art of making "dad jokes" and usually has a half-empty cup of coffee somewhere nearby. Learn more at: www.curtwidhalm.comKatie Vernoy is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, coach, and consultant. As a helping professional for two decades, she’s navigated the ups and downs of our unique line of work. She’s run her own solo therapy practice, designed innovative clinical programs, built and managed large, thriving teams of service providers, and consulted hundreds of helping professionals on how to build meaningful AND sustainable practices. In her spare time, Katie is secretly siphoning off Curt's youthful energy, so that she can take over the world. Learn more at: www.katievernoy.comA Quick Note:Our opinions are our own. We are only speaking for ourselves – except when we speak for each other, or over each other. We’re working on it.Our guests are also only speaking for themselves and have their own opinions. We aren’t trying to take their voice, and no one speaks for us either. Mostly because they don’t want to, but hey. Stay in Touch:www.mtsgpodcast.comwww.therapyreimagined.comOur Facebook Group – The Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Grouphttps://www.facebook.com/therapyreimagined/https://twitter.com/therapymovementhttps://www.instagram.com/therapyreimagined/ Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/

It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when therapists must develop a personal brand to market their practices.To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.Interview with Millen Umoh, LMFTMillen Umoh is a New York State licensed psychotherapist currently practicing in Brooklyn, NY. She is a graduate of Pepperdine University with a Master's degree in Clinical Psychology. Millen specializes in working with individuals dealing with relationship break-ups, separation, divorce, unhealthy interpersonal relationship patterns, and other major life transitions. She also has extensive experience treating anxiety and mood disorders. Learn more about Millen on her website: www.millenumoh.com In this episode we talk about: Millen’s story, her specialty (and her former blog Psych and The Single Girl) Unique challenges for therapists on the dating scene Setting boundaries, having reciprocal conversations, receiving in addition to giving When to talk about your profession while online dating What happened when Millen told people she was unemployed App dating – setting up your bio, what to disclose, how to present yourself Red flags, when to left swipe What to do if coming across clients on the app How to address with clients if they become aware of your dating status Social Media and informed consent to clarify boundaries How to approach seeking long-term relationships, when in your career you might want to date Options for getting out on the dating scene (online dating, app dating, getting out for live events, meeting organically) Self-disclosure about dating – when it might be appropriate or how to show understanding and knowledge The perks of dating when you’re a therapist Resources mentioned:We’ve pulled together any resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links.TinderBumbleMatch.com Relevant MTSG Podcast Episodes: Dual Relationships – Pros and ConsOur Next Event:The Therapy Reimagined Conference in Los Angeles in October 2018!! Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/

It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.In this episode we talk about: How social media has made the world smaller Personal branding, marketing, and the move away from the blank slate leading to dual relationships Digital natives having extensive social media and digital presence before determining they want to be a therapist Whether to express your opinions on non-therapy stuff Distinguishing personal, private, and professional online, in-person, etc. Showing respect, maintaining confidentiality, and boundaries Encouraging discussions on how to navigate dual relationships correctly (rather than just saying “don’t do it” related to technology) Translating milieu settings and small towns as templates for how to behave on social media Curating personal disclosures online Sharing your personal views does not mean you can discriminate Whether therapists should do yelp reviews or share their opinions on current events Healthy dual relationships Whether or not to google clients or to view their social media Resources mentioned:We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links.Ofer Zur’s Article on Googling ClientsOther Episodes Mentioned:Our Take on TextsSmall Town Sex TherapistOur events this year:The Therapy Reimagined Conference in Los Angeles in October 2018!! Who we are:Curt Widhalm is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist in private practice in the Los Angeles area. He is a Board Member at Large for the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists, a Subject Matter Expert for the California Board of Behavioral Sciences, Adjunct Faculty at Pepperdine University, and a loving husband and father. He is 1/2 great person, 1/2 provocateur, and 1/2 geek, in that order. He dabbles in the dark art of making "dad jokes" and usually has a half-empty cup of coffee somewhere nearby. Learn more at: www.curtwidhalm.comKatie Vernoy is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, coach, and consultant. As a helping professional for two decades, she’s navigated the ups and downs of our unique line of work. She’s run her own solo therapy practice, designed innovative clinical programs, built and managed large, thriving teams of service providers, and consulted hundreds of helping professionals on how to build meaningful AND sustainable practices. In her spare time, Katie is secretly siphoning off Curt's youthful energy, so that she can take over the world. Learn more at: www.katievernoy.comA Quick Note:Our opinions are our own. We are only speaking for ourselves – except when we speak for each other, or over each other. We’re working on it.Our guests are also only speaking for themselves and have their own opinions. We aren’t trying to take their voice, and no one speaks for us either. Mostly because they don’t want to, but hey. Stay in Touch:www.mtsgpodcast.comwww.therapyreimagined.comOur Facebook Group – The Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide Grouphttps://www.facebook.com/therapyreimagined/https://twitter.com/therapymovementhttps://www.instagram.com/therapyreimagined/ Credits:Voice Over by DW McCann https://www.facebook.com/McCannDW/Music by Crystal Grooms Mangano http://www.crystalmangano.com/ 

It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when therapists must develop a personal brand to market their practices.To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.Interview with Laura Reagan, LCSW-CLaura Reagan, LCSW-C is a clinical social worker specializing in complex trauma in her private practice outside of Baltimore, Maryland. She is also the host of Therapy Chat podcast. Laura offers individual and group consultation with clinicians who work with trauma focusing on addressing the impact of vicarious trauma, as well as creating a trauma-informed practice. Connect with Laura at www.laurareaganlcswc.com.In this episode we talk about: Laura’s story The definition of vicarious trauma Preparation to manage crisis intervention, trauma response work, and being on-call Self-care, debriefing, supportive supervision The cumulative effects of hearing about clients’ traumatic experiences Over-work and negative self-concept due to the need to keep people safe Decreasing feelings of competence and safety Distinction between vicarious trauma, burnout, and countertransference The fight or flight response related to secondary traumatic stress Offsetting the negative impacts of vicarious trauma Building community and connection The limits of incident debriefing and the need for therapists to process their own stuff that is brought up by vicarious trauma The importance of personal therapy, consultation Critical Incident Debriefing Taking care of yourself within a trauma-informed practice The danger of ignoring vicarious trauma (PTSD symptoms) Managing your emotions without shutting down or becoming disregulated Resources mentioned:We’ve pulled together any resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links.Therapy Chat Podcast Simple Self-Care for Therapists by Ashley Davis Bush Trauma Stewardship by Laura van Dernoot LipskyLaura Reagan’s ConsultationLaura Reagan’s On-Line Trauma Therapist CommunityLaura’ Reagan’s In-Person Trauma CommunityRelevant MTSG Podcast Episodes:Therapist SafetyThe Danger of Poor Self-CareOur Next Event:The Therapy Reimagined Conference in Los Angeles in October 2018!!