

Cults to Consciousness
Shelise Ann Sola
Survivor stories of claiming independence after leaving high-control groups & people. Cults to Consciousness is a YouTube channel and podcast, hosted by Shelise Ann Sola (a former devout Mormon & CSA survivor) and her Producer husband, Jonathan Rosales. C2C delves into the nuanced experiences of individuals who have escaped a broad spectrum of high-control groups and coercive environments. They are not anti-religious but firmly anti-abuse, aiming to shed light on manipulative practices and systems, while promoting compassion, understanding, and accountability. C2C has attracted a kind and engaged community who thoughtfully support their guests. Follow to join them on their advocacy mission.
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Jun 4, 2025 • 49min
Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt SENTENCED to Prison ft. Kendra Lee Bryan
Breaking News - Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt Sentenced to Prison. Today we are joined by ex cult member, Kendra Lee Bryan, who has been following the case closely and will walk us through all of the sentencing updates.
Click here to watch on YouTube
For more information, watch these videos:
Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt Sentenced to Prison w/ Lauren Mathias
Sentencing Hearing | Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt Sentenced
Judge Locks Up YouTube Mom Ruby Franke After She Begs for Forgiveness
Subscribe to Kendra's Channel!
YouTube: @KendraLeeBryan
IG: no longer active
We want to meet you in real life! Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION! Click here to go to the official booking page
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Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.
Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!
Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness
Venmo @sheliseann
Find us on Social media!
Instagram @cultstoconsciousness
Host Instagram @sheliseann
Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_
TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
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Jun 4, 2025 • 41min
8 Passengers' Ruby Franke PLEADS GUILTY: Shocking Details ft. Kendra Lee Bryan
8 Passengers’ Ruby Franke pleads guilty to her charges with a plea agreement. Kendra Lee Bryan of [Cult]ure Shock joins us to discuss the details of the plea deal, and reveal harrowing details of what Ruby’s family endured. Kendra, a fellow cult survivor, is a valuable asset to C2C. She has come upon some hard times, and we'd like to support her by helping her find a job (unethically laid off), and throwing her some donations in the meantime.
Click here to watch on YouTube
venmo: @thekendrab
cashapp: $thekendrab
PayPal: @thekendrab
You can also support by subscribing to her channel and checking out her videos.
https://www.youtube.com/@KendraLeeBryan.
We want to meet you in real life! Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION! Click here to go to the official booking page
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Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.
Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!
Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness
Venmo @sheliseann
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Instagram @cultstoconsciousness
Host Instagram @sheliseann
Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_
TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jun 3, 2025 • 50min
LATEST Bodycam Footage & Updates on Mormon Mommy Blogger (including Shari's 911 call)
Kendra Lee Bryan has been following the case closely and will walk us through all of the updates since our last livestream.
Click here to watch on YouTube
Subscribe to Kendra's Channel!
YouTube: @KendraLeeBryan
IG: no longer active
We want to meet you in real life! Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION! Click here to go to the official booking page
Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!
Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.
Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!
Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness
Venmo @sheliseann
Find us on Social media!
Instagram @cultstoconsciousness
Host Instagram @sheliseann
Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_
TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jun 3, 2025 • 48min
Further Condemning Testimony About Jodi Hildebrandt Surfaces (8 Passengers)
Fingers have been pointed and blame shifted from the alleged perpetrators Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt in court. Are we really surprised? However, more and more people are coming forward to attest to the awful treatment Ruby and Jodi have both inflicted on others aside from Ruby's own. Joined by Kendra Bryan, we will discuss some of the new updates in the case.
Click here to watch on YouTube
Subscribe to Kendra's Channel!
YouTube: @KendraLeeBryan
IG: no longer active
We want to meet you in real life! Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION! Click here to go to the official booking page
Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!
Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.
Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!
Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness
Venmo @sheliseann
Find us on Social media!
Instagram @cultstoconsciousness
Host Instagram @sheliseann
Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_
TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jun 3, 2025 • 38min
YouTuber "Ruby Franke" ARRESTED for Abusing Her Children (8 Passengers EXPOSED)
Breaking news with Mormon mommy blogger Ruby Franke who was arrested for extreme CA. Join me, Andrew Gold and Kendra Bryan to discuss the details of the arrest.
Click here for the 1st part on YouTube on Andrew Gold's Channel before moving over here.
Click here to watch this episode on YouTube
Subscribe to Andrew's Channel!
YouTube: Andrew Gold
IG: @andrewgold_ok
Subscribe to Kendra's Channel!
YouTube: @KendraLeeBryan
IG: no longer active
We want to meet you in real life! Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION! Click here to go to the official booking page
Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!
Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.
Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!
Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness
Venmo @sheliseann
Find us on Social media!
Instagram @cultstoconsciousness
Host Instagram @sheliseann
Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_
TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jun 2, 2025 • 1h 4min
The Horrific Book "To Train Up a Child" Break Down by Kendra Lee Bryan
Join us to further discuss the awful book "To Train Up a Child". As a follow up to our episode together, we will answer your questions!
Click here to watch on YouTube
Watch her episode first here
Find Kendra on Social!
IG: no longer active
FB: Kendra Bryan (the bad child)
TikTok: @kendraleebryan
We want to meet you in real life! Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION! Click here to go to the official booking page
Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!
Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.
Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!
Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness
Venmo @sheliseann
Find us on Social media!
Instagram @cultstoconsciousness
Host Instagram @sheliseann
Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_
TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jun 2, 2025 • 1h 20min
Her Childhood Tortured in Shawano WI Cult
Childhood was anything but peaceful growing up as a “Rama kid” in this insular Shawano, Wisconsin Cult. Claiming to have seen God and speak for Him, the leader seemed to enjoy torturing his members (especially the youth) and keeping them under strict control. Michele was 5 when her parents left her at the cult compound where she was endlessly tortured. She wouldn’t fully end up escaping until her 30s.
Click here to watch on YouTube
Follow Michele on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UC-76QylEA3KKCmfBe5d0MPw
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Find us on Social media!
Instagram @cultstoconsciousness
Host Instagram @sheliseann
Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_
TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
00:03:45 Rama's history and how he came to be in the United States and converted to Christianity
00:06:39 Michele's early life in the cult
00:08:39 Early memories from the cult and their lasting effects
00:12:03 What it was like living in the compound and ways in which food was used in harmful ways
00:12:49 TW: Michele was tortured as a chiIId, having to eat her own vomit
00:18:56 How Rama would pit chiIdren and families against each other
00:22:25 TW: Psychological and physical ab*se
00:28:07 What going to public school was like for Michele and how the other chiIdren and teachers treated her
00:30:48 Michele's inconsistent schooling and how it effected her later on
00:33:59 Michele's final straw to leave the church and the repercussions for defying Rama
00:39:21 How Michele's mother's relationship with her chiIdren and the church changed after Michele left
00:42:11 How Michele's mom's devotion to Rama added to the ab*se
00:44:25 TW: Physical ab*se
00:45:52 Rama's control over parents led to Michele's parentification
00:50:42 Physically leaving the cult, mentally still following Rama
00:52:18 How mental health was viewed in the cult
00:54:37 How Michele handled parenthood after her trauma
00:56:50 Michele's experience in therapy and what helped her to find healing
00:59:56 Michele's symptoms of PTSD
01:05:51 Michele uses energy healing practices to cut ties with Rama
01:11:33 What Michele believes now
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May 30, 2025 • 1h 22min
What Shawano Cult Leader Did to 12 Year Old He Was Threatened By
Shifrah grew up in the horrific Shawano, Wisconsin cult often called SIST. She frequently witnessed people being beat*n or shocked with cattle prods. Some people joined to fulfill their own sadistic fantasies, while others were too indoctrinated or programmed to realize the CA was wrong and unacceptable. Determined to beat up adults who were harming chiIdren, shifrah became a ring leader of sorts and a huge target to the cult leader. Afraid of what influence she may have, Shifrah was kicked out and disowned from her 13 person family, expected to live on the streets at 12 years old.
Click here to watch on YouTube
Find Shifrah on social media:
YouTube: www.youtube.com/@shifrahmorgan464
IG: @shifrah21
We want to meet you in real life! Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION! Click here to go to the official booking page
Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!
Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.
Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!
Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness
Venmo @sheliseann
Find us on Social media!
Instagram @cultstoconsciousness
Host Instagram @sheliseann
Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_
TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
00:04:07 What is the Rama cult, and why do people follow him?
00:07:23 Shifrah's family lived there and was heavily involved
00:08:40 ChiId labor on the compound
00:15:32 CW: Physical Ab*se- What the Shawano kids saw
00:20:43 There was a clear familial hierarchy which controlled how people were treated
00:21:36 CW: CSA- The various kinds of ab*se happening
00:24:52 CW:CSA- Rama pushing the men to little girls...
00:26:21 CW: CSA- rampant ab*se that led to chiIdren playing "doctor" with each other
00:32:10 Re-learning to trust her body after CSA
00:33:35 How Rama got parents to hurt their own chiIdren
00:36:58 CW: DV & CA
00:39:58 Shifrah "rebels" by starting a posse to protect chiIdren from adults
00:45:36 What led to Shifrah getting kicked out of her house
01:00:45 How Shifrah was able to go to high school
01:01:41 Shifrah's life falls apart after her first husband passes away
01:05:08 Shifrah's biological parents want a relationship with her
01:06:54 Shifrah processes everything that happened to her, and advocates against the cult now
01:16:05 What brings Shifrah joy now Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

May 29, 2025 • 59min
Narcissistic Father Did the Unspeakable to His Young Daughter
CW: CSA, SA, Abuse. Cult dynamics can be found in large, high control groups, as well as in single families. From no locked doors or privacy within the house, to accompanying her on dates, ab*sing her with barb wire, and hold her family hostage, Kahlia’s father essentially acted like a cult leader in her household and kept her imprisoned with manipulation tactics and various forms of ab*se. Learn what it took for her to leave her dying grandmother (per her wishes) so she could escape and find true freedom and happiness.
Click here to watch on YouTube
Follow Kahlia on Instagram: @vintagelia96
We want to meet you in real life! Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION! Click here to go to the official booking page
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Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.
Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!
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Venmo @sheliseann
Find us on Social media!
Instagram @cultstoconsciousness
Host Instagram @sheliseann
Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_
TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
00:04:05 Kahlia's family dynamic growing up
00:05:29 Kahlia's father's rules with purity culture
00:08:55 Kahlia's father didn't allow her to have any friends
00:10:28 Kahlia's home school experience
00:12:56 The different religious beliefs Kahlia's father thought was the true way
00:14:42 Kahlia's hairstyle was controlled by her father
00:16:37 TW: Kahlia's father threat*ned their lives by kn*fepoint whenever her mom tried to take them and leave
00:19:21 Kahlia's father told her she'd be responsible for breaking up the family if she spoke out
00:23:35 Kahlia's father would bully her
00:25:08 TW: walking in while undressing, groping, SA
00:26:30 TW: CSA (father forces a tampon when Kahlia is 11)
00:29:33 TW: CSA (17 years old)
00:32:06 TW: SA (the last incident that made Kahlia leave for good)
00:37:36 What motivated Kahlia to get out of the abus*ve situation
00:39:48 Kahlia's family's negative reaction to her dating her now husband
00:43:38 Na na's parting words to Kahlia
00:45:00 What it was like acclimating to a new life outside of control
00:54:56 What brings Kahlia joy now
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May 28, 2025 • 1h 31min
Uncovering the Shawano Wisconsin Cult: Why Her Family was TARGETED and TORTURED by Sadistic Leader
The Samanta Roy Institute of Science and Technology, known also simply as SIST, is a secretive fundamentalist Christian-like group based in Shawano, Wisconsin. The group was founded by Rama Behera, a Hindu who converted to Christianity, who later changed his name to Dr. Rama Chandra Samanta Roy. Born and raised in the insidious cult, Elisabeth Gronval and her 8 other siblings went through hell at the hands of the leader. He would isolate and torture chiIdren with hard manual labor, disturbing physical punishments and verbal ab*se. Elisabeth was publicly humiliated when her home was ransacked at the leader’s command and extremely private belongings were passed around to hundreds of members. Excommunicated from her church and her family, she was left alone to navigate an unknown world.
Click here to watch on YouTube
Find Elisabeth on social:
IG: @enliven_hope_productions
Email: hopestarts1999@gmail.com
We want to meet you in real life! Come adventure with us on our 2nd C2C VACATION! Click here to go to the official booking page
Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel!
Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast.
Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here!
Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness
Venmo @sheliseann
Find us on Social media!
Instagram @cultstoconsciousness
Host Instagram @sheliseann
Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_
TikTok @cults.to.consciousness
Twitter @cultstocon
**Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. Lastly, the opinions of our guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host.**
00:00:00 Intro
00:05:07 Who is Rama Behera and why do people follow him?
00:08:16 Elisabeth and her family traveled to the compound every weekend for his sermons
00:09:48 The torture that Elisabeth witnessed
00:13:16 In Rama's mind, what was meriting this type of torture to chiIdren?
00:17:04 Some of Elisabeth's chiIdhood memories in the cult
00:20:37 Were parents isolated and kept away from seeing the chiIdren tortured?
00:21:47 What was Rama saying to convince people he had authority?
00:27:25 Sticking out like a sore thumb in public school
00:29:19 Why Elisabeth started to "rebel" in her teen years
00:38:15 What made Elisabeth want to escape?
00:43:03 The beginning of when it seemed it was time for Elisabeth to leave
00:48:11 Elisabeth going back and meeting Rama's wrath (he shared n*de photos of her to everyone)
00:56:35 Elisabeth's final escape
01:01:44 When Elisabeth's family decided to leave the cult
01:04:45 Elisabeth opens up about her father and his vulnerabilities
01:10:19 Elisabeth feels Rama has mental illness
01:14:31 Has Rama seen consequences?
01:19:35 What brings Elisabeth joy now?
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