

Shameless Leadership
Sara Dean
Welcome to Shameless Leadership! This show is for women, transgender people, non-binary folks, and allies who are committed to advancing their leadership and the leadership of those around them. In this space, we believe everyone deserves to feel seen, heard, valued, and supported. Our mission is to help you foster these feelings within your own circles of influence to build trust, psychological safety, and a culture of belonging.In each episode, we dive into essential topics impacting women in leadership - everything from shutting down your inner critic and imposter syndrome to overcoming perfectionism to using your voice in new ways to advocate for yourself, your ideas, and other folks carrying marginalized identities. You'll hear practical tips, effective strategies, and inspiring stories that will not only enhance your leadership skills but also broaden your perspective to become a more confident, thoughtful, and empathetic leader.Our stories come from people carrying identities who are often underrepresented, underestimated, and excluded. By sharing their experiences, we aim to provide you with invaluable lessons that will transform your leadership journey. We are thrilled to have you join this community of Shameless Leaders who are actively creating a world where everyone, regardless of gender, can intentionally lead through a more curious, compassionate, and inclusive lens.
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Apr 1, 2020 • 53min
428: Monica Packer: Prioritizing Progress Over Perfection
Monica Packer is passionate about teaching practical transformation. As a podcaster, growth coach, and podcast educator, she guides women to find sustainable growth by adopting progress over perfection. Monica is a former middle school teacher, a forever Oprah and Harry Potter fangirl, a perpetual cookie dough maker, and a beginning swimmer. She's a mama of four living in the Bay Area, CA.We recorded this interview before COVID-19 reared its ugly head. But there has never been a better time to learn how to better manage and even overcome perfectionism. We are all working so hard right now to keep the world spinning and Monica and I want to give you a ton of permission to just keep taking one imperfect step after another. Listen in to hear Monica share:
The root of perfectionism and how it shows up specifically for moms
How a lack of goal setting and action taking is also a form of perfectionism
The truth about overachieving and underachieving perfectionists
Her own experience with perfectionism that led her through eating disorders and suicidal ideation
How leaning into the opposite side of perfectionism allows her to disconnect her worth from her achievements
How to use imperfect action as exposure therapy to recover from perfectionism
How you can prioritize progress over perfection
How to model imperfect action to high achiever/perfectionist kids
Links Mentioned:
Join our 4 Week Shameless Mom Con Collective
Connect with Monica: About Progress
Monica on Instagram: @aboutprogress
About Progress Podcast
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Mar 30, 2020 • 31min
427: Keep Returning to Who You Are
When things get hard, you know how to show up. You know what matters most. You know where to set boundaries. You know what you stand for. You know how to prioritize your time and your efforts. You have weathered some big storms in your day and you always come out stronger on the other side.You set boundaries because you know what matters most right now and you know when the risks outweigh the benefits and when the benefits outweigh the risks.You are not afraid to take uncomfortable action because you are a mama bear who knows what it means to go after what you and your family need most.You are being tested in big ways right now.Really big ways.But it's ok. You got this.Because you know who you are. And you will continue returning to your roots.You will continue to lean into your core values.You will continue to be someone who does the right thing for your family and for the greater good.You may cry.You may bleed.But that does not dampen or dim the torch you are carrying that will lead you to the next place you need to land.You have seen hard times before. And you have found the cracks in order to let in the light. You are not someone who shies away from shining when the going gets tough.If you can keep returning to who you are you will continue to be comforted by your own strength and power and tenacity. Promise. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mar 25, 2020 • 46min
426: Sheri Gazitt: Creating A More Joy-Filled Relationship With Your Teen
Sheri Gazitt is a Shameless Mom of 3, the founder of Teen Wise and is dedicated to guiding teens and parents through the ups and downs of adolescence. She advocates for teen mental wellness by advising foundations, appearing on TV, Radio, and podcasts, presenting to parents and teens, and writing for magazines both off and online. Coach Sheri also provides private coaching for teen girls to help them find their inner joy, tame stress, claim their confidence, and navigate friendships. Her latest program encourages parents to create space for their teen’s inner joy by resisting the rat race and prioritizing mental wellness over GPA's and college applications.Sheri’s mission is powerful and so necessary right now. Her work to reframe joy and connection for teens and parents is critical. Listen in to hear Sheri share:
What inspired her work in teen advocacy
Why her work with teens is JOY focused
The main drivers of anxiety and depression in our youth
The importance of stepping out of the kiddie and teen rat race
Why you and your kid may benefit tremendously by letting go of a traditional path to success
How to connect with your teens instead of just making sure they are checking boxes in achievement
One step that parents can take right now, today to start making the shift to prioritizing joy over achievement
Links mentioned:
Join our free Hope, Happiness & Mental Health Challenge
Connect with Sheri: Teen Wise Seattle
Sheri on FB: Teen Wise Seattle
Teen Wise Seattle
Sheri’s program for moms of middle schoolers
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Mar 23, 2020 • 37min
425: It’s Ok To Take A Break From Fear
Fear doesn’t get to drive.In unpredictable and unprecedented times, fear is normal - and even healthy. Fear will sit right beside you, keeping an eye out for you, making sure you are awake and alert. Fear might be in your front seat, but fear does not get to drive your car. As Marie Forleo says in Everything Is Firgureoutable, “Fear is not the enemy. Waiting to stop feeling afraid is.”If you’re waiting to stop feeling afraid, you will waste a lot of precious time. You will miss out on joy. You will be blind to opportunities that are right in front of you. In this episode, we will talk about how you can embrace fear, tame fear, and find joy with fear sitting right beside you.Links mentioned:Join our free Hope, Happiness & Mental Health ChallengeThank you to our sponsors:
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Mar 18, 2020 • 56min
424: Mikaela Kiner: Female Firebrands In The Workplace
Mikaela Kiner is a Shameless Mom of two teens, a certified executive coach, and experienced consultant. In 2015, Mikaela founded Reverb, a leading provider of flexible HR services for startups and growing companies in the Pacific Northwest. An HR professional for nearly twenty years, Mikaela enjoys coaching leaders at all levels and helping companies build healthy, inclusive cultures. She's been quoted in Fast Company, the Wall Street Journal, and The Muse, and is a member of the Forbes Human Resources Council. She’s the author Female Firebrands: Stories and Techniques to Ignite Change, Take Control, and Succeed in the Workplace.Mikaela has coached leaders at all levels who want to live and lead in a purposeful way based on their values. By acting as a sounding board and accountability partner, she supports her coaching clients in achieving their goals. She particularly enjoys working with entrepreneurs, executives, and high potential women leaders.Mikaela lives in Seattle and is happily married to Henry, who’s a musician, artist, and teacher. Their two children are good at challenging the status quo and are a constant source of learning and laughter. She is a strong believer that a healthy, inclusive culture is integral to the success of every organization.Listen in to hear Mikaela share:
The diversity in interviews when interviewing 13 women with the exact same questions
The truth about competition between women in the workplace
The gift of Brene Brown telling her no
How to use data to create equity in the workplace
How to be a leader of inclusivity in the workplace
Why research shows that moms make awesome leaders - especially if you have 2 or more kids
The steps you can take to become a stronger leader today
Links Mentioned:
Connect with Mikaela: Reverb People
Mikaela on IG: Reverb People
Mikaela on Linked IN: Mikaela Kiner
Book: Female Firebrands by Mikaela Kiner
Article: Harvard Law Review: Primal Leadership
Book: Multipliers by Liz Wiseman
Podcast: I Hate My Boss
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Mar 16, 2020 • 38min
423: 5 Ways To Find Light In The Darkness Of COVID-19
For those of us who enjoy control and predictability in life, these are tough (if not excruciating) times. We are living in a pandemic - something I ignorantly and blissfully thought only existed in history books and Bible stories…But, friends, we are still living. Just under very different circumstances than we are used to.Know this - we are standing at the start line of a marathon. We need to show up prepared to pace ourselves, stay nourished & hydrated and - most importantly - keep our head game STRONG.Some of you have heard the story of my one and only marathon. At mile 2 I decided I didn’t really feel like running anymore. I was just over it… And the following 4+ hours were absolutely grueling. I couldn’t mentally recover, which made me physically deteriorate at a rapid pace.In the case of COVID-19, we cannot afford to deteriorate at the start line, or at mile 2. We will need to be extremely intentional and diligent in managing our energy and expectations. We will need to be nimble, adaptable, and creative. We will need to create boundaries around the places (namely the internet) and people who drain us or create unnecessary fear, panic or anxiety within us.We also need to take radical responsibility for seeking hope and happiness during this marathon. If we are to sustain ourselves over the coming months, we must be able to find the cracks where the light is begging to come in. I promise they exist - but you will need to actively seek them out.I am in Seattle - the US epicenter of COVID-19. Our city is pretty much shut down. It is hard and heavy. And there is light. I can see the cracks. If I can see the cracks you can too.Listen in to learn 5 ways to find light in the darkness of COVID-19. Also, please join me for our upcoming free Hope, Happiness & Mental Health Challenge (sign up: shamelessmom.com/challenge). We start Monday, March 23rd. This challenge is the light you’re looking for.Links Mentioned: Hope, Happiness & Mental Health ChallengeThank you to our sponsors:
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Mar 11, 2020 • 49min
422: Jessie Artigue and Gerard Brown: Foster Parents And Child Free By Choice
Gerard + Jessie Pepper have been partners in crime since 2005. Their relationship started over a clean pile of laundry, and now they dish about life, love and how to keep from losing your mind on a podcast called Marriage Is Funny. Gerard loves his day job as a financial actuary, and Jessie continues to build her career as a lifestyle expert and online brand at StyleAndPepper.com. They enjoy preaching and speaking whenever possible, are always happiest while hosting friends and family in their home, and love being enthusiastic pet-parents to a rescue pup named Sadie Mae.Listen in to hear:
Why they started a marriage podcast at the worst time in their marriage
What is like to record a podcast with your partner when you’re annoyed with them
Why they decided to be child free and why they opted to become foster parents instead
The beautiful gifts and intense challenges of hosting short term foster placement
The impact of foster parenting on their marriage
If fostering has shifted their perspective on having children of their own.
Links Mentioned:
Marriage is funny Podcast
Free Marriage Myths video series: Meet The Peppers
Meet The Peppers / Grounded Marriage
Jessie's personal IG: @styleandpepper
Marriage is Funny IG: @meetthepeppers
Connect with Jessie at jessieartigue.com
Learn more about safe-families.org
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Mar 9, 2020 • 29min
421: Let Other People Be Mad At You
‘Tis the season of disappointing other people. Fa la la la la….As my platform has grown so has my exposure to judgement. In my personal and professional life, there are people who have been disappointed in me, even angry with me, over the last year or so. I will be honest with you, this kind of thing used to really eat me up inside. I’m not going to tell you that I’m super-cool with people being upset with me now. But I can tell you that I have done a lot of work to be ok with some people being mad at me - and me NOT OWNING their feelings. The truth is this: a person’s emotions are their own responsibility. I have repeatedly found that the people who are disappointed in me or angry with me have one or more of these things in common:
A poor sense of self
A general lack of self-awareness
Poor coping skills
A weak or completely lacking support system
For these folks, I will forgive them in order to make peace in my own life so I can move forward. I will not make space for their energy or abuse, In fact, I will actively distance and separate myself from it. And, most importantly, I will not take responsibility for their emotions. If I hurt someone or cause someone harm, I will own that and apologize. I will take radical responsibility for myself and my actions - but not for others reactions to my actions.This is what it looks like to have boundaries. This is what it looks like to be a grown-up. It is not easy. But it is the only way to show all the way up for those who matter most to me. I would be doing myself and my loved ones a massive disservice if I took on my haters anger or displaced feelings. The same goes for you.How do you stay in your own way when it comes to other people’s opinions and judgments of you? You must take radical responsibility for that. This episode will teach you how. Links mentioned:Book: The Daily Stoic by Ryan Holiday
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Mar 4, 2020 • 48min
420: Parijat Deshpande: Finding Power & Hope In High Risk Pregnancies
Parijat Deshpande is Shameless Mom and the leading high-risk pregnancy expert, mind-body health specialist, trauma professional, speaker and author who teaches women how to deactivate their stress response before, during and after a high-risk pregnancy so they can give their baby a strong start to life. Her unique approach has served hundreds of women to manage pregnancy complications and reclaim a safety and trust in their bodies that they thought was eroded forever. Parijat is the author of bestselling book Pregnancy Brain: A Mind-Body Approach to Stress Management During a High-Risk Pregnancy. She is also the host of the popular podcast Delivering Miracles®, that discusses the real, raw side of family-building including infertility, loss, high-risk pregnancy, bed rest, prematurity and healing once baby comes home.Listen in to hear Parijat share:
Her journey of serious and dangerous complications during fertility treatments that lead to the delivery of her 24 week old baby boy
How she managed preterm labor, used her mind to dramatically impact her and her baby’s health, and bought her son a life giving 15 additional days in utero
The very bittersweet journey of having a second child via a gestational carrier
The impact of prenatal stress/trauma on pregnancy outcomes and how you can learn to self manage prenatal stress/trauma by re-regulating your nervous system
The truth about trauma and how your body and brain resolve it - or not
Links mentioned:
Join me at Shameless Mom Con
Connect with Parijat
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Mar 2, 2020 • 39min
419: Exposure Therapy, Anxiety, and Power
You have probably heard the saying, “The only way out is through.” I would add to this that the only way into your power is through the pain and discomfort of growth.Power, achievement, growth, and success only come from putting yourself in situations that push you in new ways. And that can be ridiculously hard and scary. For me, there are often nearly impossible nerves to overcome, a racing heart that makes me unable to speak, a belly that cannot stop flip-flopping, and legs that won’t stop shaking.The more dramatic the symptoms, the more I know I’ll grow through the discomfort. Case in point: as I’ve taken up new challenges in skiing this year, I’ve experienced all the above symptoms very regularly. And I hate it. I hate it to the point that I get angry. Also, I’m growing in the biggest ways since I started skiing - as a skier, an athlete, and a woman who is becoming more powerful in all areas of life through actively embracing fear.It’s really hard. But I’m HERE. FOR. IT.If you want more power in your life you will have to get more uncomfortable. You will have to do hard things. There is no way around it. It is only through the consistent exposure to scary and hard things that we get to see who we are becoming, how much potential we have for success, and what kind of true joy we are capable of creating for ourselves.Listen in to hear how I’m using exposure therapy to face my biggest fears this year - and how it’s changing the game for me.Links mentioned:Join me for Shameless Mom ConThank you to our sponsors:
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