

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The Verge
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
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Aug 12, 2019 • 54min
Recode Decode: Why Silicon Valley loves "biohacking" and intermittent fasting
Geoff Woo, CEO of HVMN and biohacking expert, discusses the tech community's obsession with body optimization and the complexities of biohacking. Dr. Valter Longo, a professor studying aging and nutrition, shares insights on the origins and science of intermittent fasting, critiquing its misinterpretations in Silicon Valley. Claire Mysko, executive director of the National Eating Disorder Association, highlights the fine line between eccentric diets and disorders, emphasizing the wellness industry's impact on health perceptions and the need for support.

Aug 7, 2019 • 55min
Recode Decode: Stanford University's Larry Diamond
Larry Diamond, a Stanford professor and democracy expert, delves into his new book, exploring the alarming rise of authoritarianism and its implications for global democracy. He discusses the impact of Russian interference and the long-term threat posed by China's authoritarian regime. Diamond argues for reforms like ranked-choice voting to combat polarization and revitalize American democracy. He warns of declining investment in R&D, urging for innovation to maintain competitiveness against rising global powers.

Aug 5, 2019 • 1h 4min
Recode Decode: Rep. Lauren Underwood
Lauren Underwood, the inspiring US Congresswoman from Illinois' 14th district, dives deep into her journey from nursing to Capitol Hill. She discusses her motivation to run for office at just 30, navigating a politically diverse community, and combating gerrymandering. The conversation touches on healthcare issues, the nuances of Medicare for All, and the importance of grassroots campaigning. Underwood also reflects on the complexities of working within a divided Democratic Party and the significance of authentic connections with constituents. Her insights are both revealing and motivational!

Aug 2, 2019 • 52min
Recode Decode: Pearson CEO John Fallon
John Fallon, CEO of Pearson and leader in educational publishing, discusses the seismic shift from print to digital textbooks. He dives into Pearson's strategies to leverage AI for grading and enhancing personalized learning, and why traditional $300 textbooks are becoming obsolete. Fallon also touches on the future role of teachers amidst these changes and how partnerships with tech giants like Amazon and Microsoft are shaping education. The conversation wraps up with thoughts on the evolving skills needed for today's job market.

Jul 31, 2019 • 1h 10min
Recode Decode: “The Great Hack” director Karim Amer
Karim Amer, director of the Netflix documentary 'The Great Hack,' discusses the ethical implications of data manipulation in political campaigns. Former Cambridge Analytica COO Julian Wheatland reflects on the scandal and the personal responsibility of tech firms. Early Facebook investor Roger McNamee emphasizes the urgency for corporate accountability. The conversation explores the fragility of democracy and the need for transparency in tech, comparing social media giants to mid-century chemical companies, highlighting the dire consequences of data exploitation.

Jul 29, 2019 • 1h 2min
Recode Decode: Megan Rapinoe
Megan Rapinoe, co-captain of the US Women's National Soccer Team, is a fierce advocate for equal pay and a celebrated athlete. In this conversation, she shares the source of her confidence and her iconic celebration pose. She discusses the challenges faced by women's soccer and the ongoing fight for recognition and investment. Rapinoe dives into her clothing brand Re-inc, emphasizing gender expression in fashion. With candid reflections on resilience and her journey, she inspires by urging support for women's sports and considering a future in political leadership.

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Jul 26, 2019 • 59min
Recode Decode: Reddit CEO Steve Huffman
Steve Huffman, Co-founder and CEO of Reddit, discusses his journey from co-founding the platform to navigating its challenges after returning in 2015. He shares insights on Reddit's evolution, the delicate balance between free speech and content moderation, and the complexities of managing controversial communities like /r/The_Donald. Huffman also addresses tech biases, the role of AI in shaping discussions, and the importance of community involvement in creating a respectful online environment, all while contemplating the future of digital engagement.

Jul 24, 2019 • 1h 4min
Recode Decode: Stitch Fix CEO Katrina Lake
Katrina Lake, Founder and CEO of Stitch Fix, shares her inspiring journey as a female tech leader. She discusses the rarity of women in executive roles, the challenges of raising venture capital, and the evolution of personal styling services. Lake delves into Stitch Fix's unique approach to integrating technology with fashion, the importance of understanding customer preferences, and the future of retail without physical stores. She also reflects on lessons learned, mistakes made, and the balance of authenticity in leadership.

Jul 22, 2019 • 55min
Recode Decode: Rep. Adam Schiff
Adam Schiff, U.S. Congressman and chair of the House Intelligence Committee, dives into pressing tech policy issues, particularly around the 2020 election and deepfake threats. He discusses the urgent need for tech regulation and the responsibility of platforms like Facebook and Google in combating misinformation. Schiff shares insights on Russian interference, the evolving political landscape since the Democrats gained a majority, and what he views as the greatest intelligence threats to the U.S. His candid thoughts on restoring political norms are both timely and crucial.

Jul 19, 2019 • 1h 7min
Recode Decode: Andrew Yang
Andrew Yang, an entrepreneur and founder of Venture for America, shares his bold vision for the country, spotlighting his Freedom Dividend proposal for universal basic income. He tackles the challenges of convincing skeptics about UBI and emphasizes the looming threat of job automation. Yang also critiques the current political landscape, addresses climate change, and discusses the need for a human-centered economy. His candid insights on social media's role in politics and the urgent call for data privacy regulations make for a thought-provoking conversation.


