

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The Verge
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
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Sep 27, 2019 • 1h 7min
Recode Decode: Senator Mark Warner
Mark Warner, Senior US Senator from Virginia and vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, dives into pressing topics like election security and foreign interference, particularly from Russia. He discusses the need for regulatory reforms amidst growing concerns over tech giants' power. Warner expresses cautious optimism for bipartisan support on election reform and highlights the complexities of regulating social media in light of Section 230. Additionally, he addresses the evolving gig economy and the necessity for a revamped social insurance system to support workers.

Sep 25, 2019 • 53min
Recode Decode: Whistleblower Aid CEO John Tye
John Napier Tye, founder and CEO of Whistleblower Aid, discusses the vital role of whistleblowers in exposing corruption both in government and at private organizations. He shares insights on high-profile cases, including those involving MIT and President Trump’s phone call with Ukraine. Tye highlights the challenges whistleblowers face, including retaliation and legal complexities, while emphasizing the need for protective measures and secure communication. He also reflects on the evolving nature of whistleblowing in the digital age and its essential contribution to democracy.

Sep 23, 2019 • 46min
Recode Decode: Hermitage Capital CEO Bill Browder
In an engaging discussion, Bill Browder, a former hedge fund manager and human rights advocate known for his fight against Russian corruption, teams up with his son, Josh Browder, CEO of the innovative legal tech company DoNotPay. They delve into their shared mission to empower individuals against corporate injustices and explore how technology can simplify legal processes. The conversation tackles the complexities of the Magnitsky Act, subscription traps, and the ethical responsibilities of tech innovators in today's digital landscape.

Sep 20, 2019 • 1h 9min
Recode Decode: "She Said" authors Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey
Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey, both New York Times investigative reporters and co-authors of 'She Said,' delve into their groundbreaking work uncovering sexual harassment, particularly focusing on the Harvey Weinstein allegations. They discuss the impact of non-disclosure agreements and the silence surrounding victims. The duo reflects on the emotional toll of investigative journalism, shares insights on key moments like Christine Blasey Ford's testimony, and explores the ongoing challenges and complexities of the Me Too movement.

Sep 18, 2019 • 1h 8min
Recode Decode: Blackstone CEO Steve Schwarzman
Steve Schwarzman, CEO of The Blackstone Group and author of "What It Takes: Lessons in the Pursuit of Excellence", shares his insights on leadership and investment strategies. He delves into his Schwarzman Scholars program, designed to enhance U.S.-China relations through education. Schwarzman emphasizes navigating economic trends and the role of technology, especially AI, in shaping business dynamics. He also addresses the urgent need for stakeholder inclusivity and proposes initiatives to tackle public discontent and bridge societal divides.

Sep 16, 2019 • 1h 17min
Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio
Bill de Blasio, Mayor of New York City and 2020 presidential candidate, dives into the challenges of his campaign, emphasizing the importance of connecting with working-class voters. He discusses the proposed 'robot tax' aimed at addressing job displacement due to automation, and shares insights on transportation issues in NYC, including scooters and rideshare services. De Blasio also reflects on the contentious fallout from Amazon's failed HQ2 plan, advocating for stronger privacy regulations and antitrust action against tech giants like Facebook and Google.

Sep 13, 2019 • 1h 10min
Recode Decode: 2020 presidential candidate Marianne Williamson
Marianne Williamson, a spiritual teacher and bestselling author, shares insights from her 2020 presidential campaign. She discusses the challenges of being an outsider in politics, confronting negativity on social media, and the need for diverse voices in democracy. Williamson reflects on the ethics of tech monopolies and the role of compassion in politics. She also delves into the misconceptions surrounding vaccination and how spirituality intersects with political discourse, advocating for a more equitable future driven by love and understanding.

Sep 11, 2019 • 47min
Recode Decode: The Wing CEO Audrey Gelman
Audrey Gelman, the co-founder and CEO of The Wing, shares insights on creating a digital hiring network aimed at reducing bias in hiring. She discusses her journey from politics to launching a women-focused coworking space, emphasizing community support and childcare needs. Gelman also highlights the unique challenges female entrepreneurs face in a male-dominated market and the importance of fostering inclusive environments. The conversation also touches on the innovative initiatives that empower women both personally and professionally.

Sep 9, 2019 • 1h 9min
Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith
Brad Smith, President of Microsoft and co-author of "Tools and Weapons," examines the dual nature of technology and the essential need for responsibility among tech firms. He reflects on lessons from the 2001 antitrust case and critiques Silicon Valley's 'move fast and break things' mentality. Smith discusses the fallout from events like the Cambridge Analytica scandal and advocates for a national privacy bill by 2024. This insightful conversation touches on the importance of ethical governance and the role tech companies play in societal challenges.

Sep 6, 2019 • 56min
Recode Decode: Why workers need to be part of the conversation about UBI and artificial intelligence
In this discussion, Steve Greenhouse, a former New York Times labor reporter and author of "Beaten Down, Worked Up," sheds light on the decline of worker power since World War II. He highlights how globalization and the gig economy threaten labor rights and fair compensation. The conversation dives into the issues of corporate accountability, like DoorDash's treatment of tips, and explores the urgent need for worker representation in discussions about Universal Basic Income and the challenges posed by AI and automation.


