

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat
New York Times Opinion
The first draft of our future. Mapping the new world order through interviews and conversations. Every Thursday, from New York Times Opinion.
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Mar 26, 2026 • 51min
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?
Mark Dubowitz, CEO of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and longtime Iran policy hawk, lays out three phases for toppling Iran’s regime. He discusses military degradation of Iran’s missiles and nuclear paths. They debate the strategic fight over the Strait of Hormuz and whether Trump will cut a deal or press for total victory.

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Mar 19, 2026 • 1h 3min
White Identity Is Galvanizing the Right
Jeremy Carl, conservative writer and Claremont Institute senior fellow, discusses his book arguing white Americans face growing marginalization. He talks about civil rights law, affirmative action, and how immigration and DEI reshape culture. The conversation covers provocative rhetoric, fears of cultural replacement, and whether a civic, multiethnic conservatism can respond.

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Mar 12, 2026 • 1h 7min
The Democrats Could Still Screw This Up
Chris Hayes, progressive commentator and host of All In With Chris Hayes, offers sharp takes on where Democrats stand in 2026. He discusses how Israel and immigration fractures reshape the party. He profiles potential leaders who might bridge voters. He also explores how AI’s concentration of power could reshape politics and policy.

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Apr 6, 2025 • 3min
Introducing ‘Interesting Times’
This podcast dives into the complexities of our rapidly changing world. It tackles the implications of the Trump presidency and the COVID-19 pandemic on our societal fabric. Listeners will explore the future of democracy as American influence shifts. The conversation also ventures into how culture—movies and books—will evolve in an era dominated by digital technology and AI. Each discussion promises thought-provoking insights into our current and future realities.


