

A Deeper Dive
Restaurant Business Magazine
“A Deeper Dive” is a weekly podcast from Restaurant Business dedicated to going in-depth on the most pressing challenges and opportunities restaurant operators face today. Each Wednesday, our audience will hear from restaurant industry leaders – from Chipotle to Pincho Factory and Firehouse Subs to McDonald’s. Host Jonathan Maze deep dives into hot topics, from delivery to discounting and marketing to menu, giving operators the latest information and solutions to drive their businesses.
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Mar 16, 2022 • 30min
How the pandemic has changed restaurants’ beverage deals
The pandemic has changed restaurants’ deals with beverage companies, maybe forever.
This week’s episode of the Restaurant Business podcast “A Deeper Dive” features Tim Harms, CEO of the consulting firm Enliven, to talk about the market for beverages at restaurants.
Enliven works with restaurants and other clients to negotiate their beverage contracts. Harms was recently named the firm’s CEO.
He discussed the state of beverage deals on the podcast, and how much the pandemic changed demand for restaurant beverages. Growth in takeout and delivery has led to decreased beverage attachment, which has changed the way restaurants have to think about their beverage contracts.

Mar 9, 2022 • 30min
Why people keep buying restaurants
Despite a number of challenges, there remains plenty of demand for restaurants on the open market.
This week’s episode of the Restaurant Business podcast, A Deeper Dive, features Robin Gagnon, CEO and cofounder of We Sell Restaurants, to discuss the secondary market for restaurants.
That market remains strong. There are more buyers than there are sellers, driving up the price. This is especially true for quick-service restaurants. But there is plenty of demand for all kinds of concepts. The demand is strong despite high labor and food costs and the prospect of rising interest rates.

Mar 2, 2022 • 28min
How a small chain is coping with the tough operating environment
How does a small growth chain expand when the operating environment is so difficult?
This week’s episode of the Restaurant Business podcast “A Deeper Dive” features Jason Morgan, CEO of the 17-unit Original ChopShop, to talk about it.
Original Chop Shop is a better-for-you fast casual chain. The company has done quite well during the pandemic and has some significant growth plans, but it has faced some challenges on that front.

Feb 23, 2022 • 29min
How Portillo’s is handling life as a public company
How has life changed for Portillo’s since the brand went public?
This week’s episode of the Restaurant Business podcast “A Deeper Dive” features Michael Osanloo, CEO of the hot dog and Italian beef chain, to talk about life as a public company.
Portillo’s has been a fast-growing chain of massive quick-service restaurants. It went public last year in what now looks like some bad timing. Stocks have struggled due to inflation concerns and the promise of higher interest rates. And investors have been particularly hard on some of the newly public restaurant companies.

Feb 16, 2022 • 28min
A look at the future, and the present, of third-party delivery
What happens with third-party delivery from here?
This week’s episode of the Restaurant Business podcast “A Deeper Dive” attempts to answer that question. Joe Guszkowski, RB’s senior technology editor, joins the podcast to discuss the service and some interesting data and trends.
Third-party delivery took off during the pandemic. It provided a lifeline for many restaurants. Yet it remains in flux.

Feb 9, 2022 • 27min
A look at the fierce competition for drive-thru real estate
Everybody wants a drive-thru these days. And that has an impact on the prices for real estate that can accommodate that wish.
This week’s episode of the Restaurant Business podcast “A Deeper Dive” features Barry Wolfe, senior managing director of investments for the real estate investment firm Marcus and Millichap, to talk about the demand for drive-thru sites.

Feb 2, 2022 • 27min
What restaurants can expect in 2022
What is 2022 going to be like for restaurants?
This week’s episode of the Restaurant Business podcast “A Deeper Dive” features Hudson Riehle, SVP of the research and knowledge group with the National Restaurant Association, to talk about the group’s recent State of the Restaurant Industry report.
The report is an annual compilation of data and surveys on the industry and provides a snapshot of where the business stands and where it’s headed during the coming year.

Jan 26, 2022 • 32min
How the omicron surge has affected restaurant traffic
How has the omicron variant affected restaurant traffic?
This week’s episode of the Restaurant Business podcast “A Deeper Dive” features RJ Hottovy, head of analytical research with the data firm Placer.ai.
Hottovy is a longtime industry analyst who went to work with Placer last year. Placer tracks consumer traffic, and he talks about how that traffic has been changing of late.

Jan 19, 2022 • 32min
A former McDonald’s franchisee looks back at her long career
Tracy Johnstone wanted to go into academics. Instead she found plenty of teaching opportunities with McDonald’s.
This week’s episode of the Restaurant Business podcast “A Deeper Dive” features the now-former, longtime McDonald’s franchisee, who discusses her more than 30 years in the business.

Jan 12, 2022 • 26min
How Biggby Coffee works to compete with its giant competitors
How does a small, Midwestern coffee chain compete with the big giants?
Bob Fish, the co-CEO and cofounder of Biggby Coffee, joins the Restaurant Business podcast “A Deeper Dive” this week to discuss the chain’s growth strategy.
Biggby is a 260-unit chain based in Lansing, Mich. The company has plans for some enormous growth in the near future after largely making it through the pandemic unscathed. It is doing this largely through a franchising model.
Fish talks about that growth. He also talks about the need to constantly change in a market where new trends come and go quickly. And he talks about the need for convenience—and why coffee chains could not survive on customers hanging out in cafes alone.


